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- Growing scrutinytonight over what happened

to missing Saudijournalist, Jamal Khashoggi.

Thanks for joining us.

I'm Jenna Browder.

Welcome to Faith Nation.

Well Khashoggi was lastseen at the Saudi Consulate

in Istanbul, Turkey.

And now CNN is reporting,

the Saudi government plansto admit he was killed

in an interrogation gone wrong.

This comes after President Trump spoke

with the Saudi king today

who said he had no knowledgeof Khashoggi's killing.

And now Secretary of State Mike Pompeo,

is on his way to meet with him, in person.

Amber Strong has a lookat the circumstances

behind Khashoggi's disappearance.

- It's been nearly two weekssince the disappearance

of Washington Postcontributor, Jamal Khashoggi.

President Trump says theU.S. is looking for answers.

- I've asked Secretaryof State Mike Pompeo

to immediately get on aplane, go to Saudi Arabia,

go to other places, if necessary.

- [Amber] President spoketo Saudi King Salman

for nearly 20 minutes, Monday.

- The king firmly deniedany knowledge of it.

He didn't really know maybe,

I don't wanna get into his mind.

But it sounded to me like maybe

these could've been rogue killers.

- [Amber] The U.S. residentwas last seen entering

the Saudi Consulate, in Istanbul.

His supporters fearing the worst

since Khashoggi was an outspoken critic

of the Saudi Crown PrinceMohammed Bin Salman.

The Saudi's say they're participating

in the investigation,opening their consulate doors

to Turkish officials, Monday.

On Capitol Hill, abipartisan group of senators

are calling for sanctionsagainst the Saudi government,

if it was involved.

- I believe the Trumpadministration will do something.

The president has said that.

But if he doesn't, Congress will.

That I can tell you.

- Stop military sales.

Not only put sanctions on Saudi Arabia,

but most importantly,

get out of this terrible,terrible war in Yemen,

led by the Saudis.

- [Amber] The presidentsays the punishment

will indeed be severe,

but stopped short of sayingwhat exactly it would be.

- There's a lot at stake.

And maybe especially so,

because this man was a reporter.

There's something, you'll besurprised to hear me say that,

there's something reallyterrible and disgusting

about that, if that were the case.

- [Amber] Meanwhile growingdemands for U.S. officials

to drop out of an investmentsummit in Riyadh, next week.

- I don't think we shouldcontinue with business as usual

until we know exactlywhat's happened here.

Because what we do know is this.

He walked into that consulate,and he never came out.

- On Sunday, Saudi officialspromised retaliation

against the U.S., shouldthose sanctions be imposed.

But have since walked that back

in a tweet, asking U.S. officials

to refrain from jumping to conclusions.

Amber Strong, CBN News, in Washington.

- All right thank you Amber.

Well Pastor Andrew Brunsonis back on American soil

after finally being releasedby the Turkish government.

This weekend, a remarkablemoment at the White House

as he met with President Trump

and even at one point,prayed over the president.

Pastor Brunson was imprisonedin Turkey for two years.

Charged with terrorismand espionage connected

to an attempted coup.

President Trump, and his administration,

made him a symbol of religious freedom

and refused to give in to Turkey.

Slapping cripplingsanctions on the country.

Tony Perkins, with theFamily Research Council

tells CBN News all people offaith should be encouraged.

- Persecuted people aroundthe world gained hope

because they know they're not alone.

They know this administrationhas placed a priority on that.

- And President Trumpinsisted there was no deal

with the Turks for thereturn of Pastor Brunson.

And pushed back on any reports

that he agreed to lift those sanctions.

For more now, on Pastor Brunson's release,

and what it means forU.S. Turkey relations

and the firestorm over thefate of Jamal Khashoggi,

I'm joined now by SeniorInternational Reporters

George Thomas and Gary Lane.

Both of you, thank you for being here.

George let's go ahead and start with you.

At the release of Pastor Brunson,

do you think that wecould see a reset here

with relations betweenthe U.S. and Turkey?

- Not in the immediate future.

We got some huge issues,

not just in the Middle East,

but also here as itrelates to Turkey's desire

to buy the S-400 missile defensesystem from the Russians.

Its involvement in Syria.

Its desire to buy F-35sfrom the United States.

I use the word, reset, very loosely.

We've got some major, majorissues to deal with Turkey.

Principally its continued role in Syria,

the surrounding of the last

rebel stronghold of Idlib.

Turkey is very much involved in it.

So I think obviouslyit releases a tension.

By the way, it gives the Turks

some sort of economic breathing room.

Their lira, the Turkish currency

has fell precipitously,

since the United States slapped sanctions

on Turkey because of the Brunson case.

Clearly this will ease alittle bit of those tensions.

But we got some major,major issues to deal with

as it relates to U.S. Turkey relations.

- Yeah and that bringsus to Jamal Khashoggi.

Gary let's go to you there.

This whole situation with him.

This really complicatesrelations with Turkey

and the United States.

- Well it certainly does.

And it isn't just the release of Brunson.

Think of this Jenna,

there are Americans still beingheld in prison, in Turkey.

Among them, is a man who is a former

member of NASA.

He also worked as aphysicist from Houston.

And his name is Serkan.

Serkan is his name, andhe is a man who has been

in prison now for a coupleof years, since 2016.

Sentenced to seven yearsin prison, I believe.

And so, we would like tosee him released, as well.

But the other issues Georgejust briefly touched upon this,

how about the Kurds?

The United States hassupported the Kurds in Syria

for many years.

We've given them arms, the YPG.

Just this past summer, Trumpsaid, "Okay, we're not going

"to give them arms anymore."

But we still support them.

Turkey sees them as their enemy.

And they want to destroy the Kurds.

And they want to occupymuch of northern Syria.

So we are at odds over that.

Also, there is a banker, astate banker, that we imprisoned

here in the United States

for violating sanctions against Iran.

It was a state bank from Turkey

that gave millions ofdollars to the Iranians.

And he is serving now 32 months in prison.

The Turks would like to see him released

but obviously, the Trumpadministration says,

"Look, we wanted to give him 20 years,

"he only got 32 months."

So many, many issuesthat George touched upon.

- Gary, this eveningSecretary of State Mike Pompeo

he is on his way to Saudi Arabia

to meet with the king there.

What do you think he's likely to say?

What can he do here?

- Well, look the presidenthad that conversation

with the king, just this morning.

I think he sent Pompeothere, because he wants

the king to know look,we're serious about this.

If you don't admit up to this,

or you don't come clean on this,

you're going to have some heavy sanctions.

I doubt the president wants to see,

as some of the members ofCongress would like to see,

that military deal not go through.

He says it must go through.

$110 billion over 10 years.

The president says this willbenefit American workers,

about 450,000.

So he doesn't want to pullthat deal with the Saudis,

because he sees it as goodfor the American economy,

good for American workers.

But there will be pressure from Congress

to move forward and renegotiate that deal

or pull it entirely.

And I think the reason he sent Pompeo,

look we mean business.

You better come clean on this.

- Gary, George, excuse me,

George how much damagecan Saudi Arabia do to

the global economy here?

- Well two principle areas

and Gary mentioned oneof them, being military.

Keep in mind the United States

is the largest exporterof arms around the world.

Saudi Arabia is number twoon that import list of arms.

So clearly if they decide thatthey don't wanna buy arms,

it's going to affect our militaryhere in the United States.

But more importantly, Saudi Arabia

is the world's largest producer of oil.

Everyday it pumps out aboutseven million barrels of oil.

If they decide to curtail those pipelines,

to put a stop on those barrels rolling out

of the desert sands of thekingdom of Saudi Arabia,

you could see the price

of a barrel of oil goup five, six, ten times.

So you can see the impact of it

in a very, very serious way.

Is that gonna happen?

Probably not, because SaudiArabia knows its place

here in the United States,

and also across the largeswath of the Middle East.

- George Thomas and GaryLane, thank you both so much.

- You're welcome.

- All right, well in other news,

President Trump andFirst Lady Melania Trump

visited the Floridapanhandle, and Georgia, today

to see firsthand, the devastationleft by Hurricane Michael.

Mark Martin is here withmore on their visit, Mark.

- That's right Jenna.

The president and firstlady arrived Monday

at Eglin Air Force Basenear Valparaiso, Florida.

The president said the big priority

is making sure everyone'ssafe, and has food and water.

Now Hurricane Michael hit the panhandle

as a Category 4 storm withmaximum sustained winds

of 155 miles per hour.

The president and firstlady viewed the devastation,

from the air, by helicopter.

The aerial tour lasted nearly an hour.

Trump spoke to reporters onthe tarmac, before taking off.

- I have to say one of themost incredible things always

is the power.

And we have thousands and thousands

of electrical, reallyelectricians, at the top level.

But the electric companies have followed

as the hurricane left,

they followed right behind it.

And they've put on hundredsof thousands of homes

that are already back.

Now the one problem is, somehomes don't exist anymore.

I mean they're literally wiped out.

They have electric going to empty sites.

But the electric companies

have been reallyincredible and responsive.

So we want to thank them too.

(helicopter blades fluttering)

- The Florida panhandle tooka direct hit from Michael,

so there is still alot of work to be done.

More than 190,000 homes and businesses

are still without power in Florida.

And in Georgia, around120,000 homes and businesses

don't have electricity.

The Associated Press reports

that 17 people lost their livesfrom the hurricane, Jenna.

- Mark, what has been FEMAs response?

- Well FEMA Chief Brock Long said

the damage left by Hurricane Michael,

is some of the worst he's ever seen.

He said after touring devastated areas

that the damage willrequire government leaders

to help meet the housingneeds of storm victims

for the next several months, Jenna.

- Mark Martin, thank you very much.

Tonight, President Trump is backtracking

on previous claims he made,calling climate change a hoax.

In an interview with 60 Minutes,

the president said he thinkssomething is happening

in regards to recenttrends of powerful storms.

Trump said he doesn't thinkclimate change is man-made

and won't waste money trying to fight it.

He also claimed

that even scientistshave a political agenda.

The president's commentsreignited heated debate

over whether climate changeis a real problem, or not.

Though climate change is one of

the most contentious issues of our time,

many conservatives andChristians though don't agree

that it's caused by humans

or that we can affect theEarth's warming or cooling.

Paul Strand talked to ahigh-profile Christian couple

who believe climatechange is a huge danger

and we have a duty to fight it.

- [Paul] This may comeas a surprise to many.

Two of the more respectedbelievers in climate change

are evangelical Christianswith conservative leanings.

A popular pastor and his wife,

a scientist, Time named one of

the 100 most influentialpeople in the world.

And Katharine Hayhoe's influence

is growing here in Washington

and with audiences,

both secular and religious,across the world.

Because this particularChristian's job adds weight

to her contention, there'soverwhelming evidence

of climate change.

- There's 26 and a halfthousand indicators

of a warming planet all around us,

many of them in our own backyards.

- [Paul] Hayhoe heads upthe Climate Science Center

at Texas Tech.

- We see our plants, and our flowers

and our bushes, floweringearlier in the year.

We see birds, and animals,and insects much further north

than they've ever been before.

We see that sea level is rising.

Glaciers are melting.

Our weather patterns are changing.

- [Paul] CBN News talked to Hayhoe

and her husband, Pastor Andrew Farley,

in his home state of Virginia.

Growing up there, heconsidered global warming

an environmental fad.

- Whether it's save thewhales, or hug the trees,

or eat granola you know, wear hemp.

- [Paul] Farley and his bridefought over climate science

for about two years.

- And I would even go toclimate denier websites

and find all the ammunitionthat I could find

and come back to her and say,

but honey, what aboutthis and what about that.

- [Paul] The evidenceHeyhoe and others had

of a definite radicalspike in temperatures

and carbon dioxide, finally got to Farley.

- Her determination to show me the facts

and then, quite frankly,going to NASAs website

and looking at global temperature

over the last 200 years

and just saying look what's happened.

Here's the spike, it's undeniable.

Either all of NASA is duped,

or maybe there's somevalidity to this thing.

- [Paul] But Hayhoe says global warming

is hurting, even killing,thousands of people now.

Like causing stronger, longer heatwaves.

- In 2003, there was aheatwave in Europe that led

to 70,000 premature deaths.

That's seven zero, 70,000 people died

who would not have died otherwise,

because that heatwave was so extreme.

(water swishing)

- [Paul] And stronger,frequent, rainfalls leading

to more flooding.

- If the area is warmer,more water evaporates

out of the ocean, and lakes, and rivers.

When a storm comes along,

as it always does naturally,

there's more water vapor available

for that storm to pick up, and dump on us.

We're also seeing that hurricanes

are getting, not morefrequent, but stronger.

Because they get all their energy

from warm ocean water.

- [Paul] And in the future,she sees trouble coming

for millions, especiallythose on coastlines.

- There are nearly 300 million people

who will lose their land

as sea level rises this century.

- [Paul] The frequent public appearances,

reasonable arguments,and down-to-earth style,

have led some to say Hayhoe'sthe best communicator

about climate change, in the world.

- She is at the intersectionof science and faith.

She's bringing her expertisein the science field,

and she's bringing herfaith in Jesus Christ.

And she's saying heyChristians this thing,

this time is actually real

and we need to be doingsomething about it.

- [Paul] Hayhoe works torule out natural suspects

that could warm the Earth,

like the sun has done in the past.

- For the last 40 or 50 years or so,

the sun's energy has been going down,

while our Earthtemperature's been going up.

- [Paul] About the natural cycles

that happen over centuries.

- Next thing that should behappening on that time scale

is another ice age.

But we're getting warmer and warmer.

- [Paul] As she pointsto her number one suspect

you see the evangelical,

in the scientist and childof missionaries, come alive.

- When we burn coal, andoil, and natural gas,

it releases that carbontrapped in those fuels

into the atmosphere.

And in the atmosphere,

we already have thisamazing natural blanket

that God has designed for our planet

that keeps us almost 60 degrees warmer

than we would be otherwise.

Putting all that extra carbon dioxide

into the atmosphere, we'readding to that blanket.

We're overheating.

That's what we're doing to our planet.

- [Paul] Pastor Farley says Christians

are scripturally bound,

as God's stewards of the Earth,

to take action if two things are true.

- Is this happening andare we contributing to it?

And those answers are yes and yes.

- [Paul] Hayhoe suggests fighting globally

for practices and methodsthat reduce carbon emission,

and then reducing yourown carbon footprint.

You can start simply.

- If every home

in the entire United States

replaced just one lightbulb with a new LED,

that would be like taking amillion cars off the road.

And we would each save $30 in electricity

over the lifetime of the bulb,

even taking into account the fact that

the bulb costs more than a regular one.

- Then just keep encouragingyourself, and others,

to reduce carbon output.

Like with commuting.

Mix it up sometimes,work from home, carpool,

take public transport, or bike.

I've been commuting like this happily

for 42 years now.

And buy locally grown or made,

insulate, recycle, compost.

Even if Farley and Hayhoe arewrong about global warming,

you'll at least make for acleaner, healthier planet.

Paul Strand, CBN News, Washington.

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- The countdown to election day is on.

Up next, why Democrat's bluewave, may be crashing early.

Well the midterm electionsare just a few weeks away

and CBN Political AnalystJohn Waage is with us now,

to talk about the hotlycontested Senate races.

John, good to see you.

- Thanks Jenna, good to be with you.

- We hear a lot about this blue wave

that's supposed to give Democrats control

of the House and the Senate.

What's your take John,what's your sense here?

- Well it seems that the blue wave

might be graduallyreduced to a trickle here.

It really is in the Senate especially.

I think the Senate races that have come.

We've got a map here that shows

that there are really six Democratic seats

and four Republican Senateseats, that are in danger.

These are the toss-up races,

and these are the racesthat are gonna decide

control of the Senate.

The Republicans now controlthe Senate, 51 to 49

if you count the two independents

who vote with the Democrats.

And so, the Democrats wouldhave to make a net gain

of two seats, in order totake over the Senate control.

Which of course, if they did that,

they'd control the judiciaryand all the committees

that we just witnessed with Kavanaugh,

and many others besides.

But in this case,

the Kavanaugh hearings appear to have had

a pretty big effect andif we go to those states,

we can see that the Democrats actually

have more to defendthan the Republicans do.

And in the four states

that Republicans havehotly contested races

where they're the incumbents,

or where there's an open seat,

in two of those states,in Texas and Tennessee,

the candidates seem tobe pulling a bit away

from their Democratic challengers.

So that really leaves two states,

Arizona and Nevada, thatare still very, very tight.

So the Democrats really have an option

of only two states to gain,

and they'd need those two.

And then they'd need to holdall those other six states

to take control of the Senate.

So it's looking a bit bleak for 'em.

- John you mentioned theKavanaugh confirmation process.

Of those blue states,

only one senator, one Democratic senator,

actually voted to confirm Kavanaugh.

- That's right.- That was Joe Manchin,

of West Virginia.

What do you think his odds look like?

It's a red state.

Do you think voters there will support him

or will they go for theRepublican candidate?

- It's interesting.

They love Joe Manchin in West Virginia.

And Joe Manchin voted to,

like you said, to approve Kavanaugh.

And he's the one with thealmost double-digit lead

in all the races that we're looking at.

So it looks like he is pulling away.

But Morrissey is hanging close enough

that if Republicanscontinue to be energized

over the next three weeks,

he's not out of it.

But Manchin's the one with the best chance

of holding on to a seat,

of all those six Democraticseats that have tight races.

And you know, you can'tignore the speculation

that he might change parties

because he's gonna be verylonely in the Democratic caucus

when they next resume inJanuary, if he does win.

- John, Axios was callingit the Brett bounce.

After the confirmation process,

we saw this surge of enthusiasmfor Republican candidates.

Do you think though,

that that can last, thesenext remaining few weeks?

Can that push Republicanspast the finish line?

- I think Jenna, that it's very possible.

And the reason is that peoplesat, witnessed those hearings

and Republicans were very upset.

Where they had been a bit complacent,

they became energized.

And I don't think thatenergy's gonna stop.

Because big theme thingswere at stake here.

I mean we're talking about due process,

innocent until proven guilty

even though it wasn't in a court of law,

we apply that across theboard in the United States.

These people see it as,

many people see it as athreat to the republic.

And when the character ofyour nation is at stake

as many people, Republicansand independents, believe,

I do think that that energy can last

through the next three weeks.

But we'll have to see.

You never know whatcould come up as an issue

between now and then.

- Yeah there are a lot of news cycles

between now and then.

John, you know Democrats, they've run

a lot of their campaignsmostly against Trump.

Is there another issue thatcould be trouble for the GOP?

- I think if there wereone, it would be healthcare.

I think that they're tryingto represent Republicans

as failing to repeal and replace Obamacare

as they said they would do,

during the Trump campaign of 2016.

But I know Trump's fighting back.

And Mike Pence, campaigning in Indiana,

for the Republican,Mike Bohn, this weekend,

was saying that they're misrepresenting

the Republican theme on healthcare.

That they will coverpre-existing conditions,

which is a big fear among a lot of voters

of all parties.

So Republicans are tryingto say, hey wait a minute

the Democrats are totallymisrepresenting us on that.

And there's no doubt thathealthcare is a big issue,

but I'm not sure it'sgonna be the biggest one.

I think the biggest one may be,

are you for Trump's agenda,or are you opposed to it?

Because the economy's roaring.

Whether the Democratswant to admit it, or not.

And if President Trump can sell that,

it's interesting to me that he's going

from state to state, city to city,

over, and over, and over again.

So it's not like he'shiding in the tall grass

because he's not welcome.

He's very welcome,wherever he's been going

and having thousands ofpeople at his rallies.

So something's gotta beworking on that front.

- We just saw him the other night

in Tennessee, campaigningfor Marsha Blackburn

in the Senate race there.

We also saw Taylor Swift comeout against Marsha Blackburn.

What's the latest there?

There she is, MarshaBlackburn and Phil Bresdeen.

What do you think--- [John] Bredesen.

- [Jenna] Yeah, Bredesen.

What do you think can happen there, John?

- Well you know Bredesenwas actually leading

in several of the polls.

And Marsha Blackburn came upduring the Kavanaugh hearings

and the Taylor Swift thingcertainly hasn't helped

if we're to believe thelatest New York Times poll,

which shows her up 14 points.

I mean that's not even,

that's not even a toss-upanymore, if it's true.

And some of these polls

you can't totally vouch for the accuracy.

But she's been moving ahead

in the real clear politicsaverage of polls, as well.

And it came right on the heels

of Taylor Swift's endorsement.

I think part of it you know,

there's another poll out

that says people are sickof political correctness.

I think they're alsogetting sick of celebrities

thinking that theirendorsement is the same

as having newspaperendorsements 50 years ago.

It's not a big deal and I think

the Tennessee race is showing that.

- Yeah, we will see.

All right, Political Analyst John Waage.

Thanks so much John.

- Thanks Jenna.

- From George Washington to Donald Trump,

every U.S. president hastaken the oath of office

with his hand on the Bible.

President Trump used two.

And one of them sits atthe Museum of the Bible.

- Place your left hand on theBible and raise your right--

- [Jenna] A time honored tradition.

- I William Jefferson Clinton--

- [Jenna] Followed atevery swearing in ceremony

for each U.S. president.

- Preserve, protect, and defend

- [Jenna] But PresidentTrump took his oath

on not one, but two Bibles.

Abraham Lincoln's, and hisown from his childhood,

now on display at the Museum of the Bible.

- I'll say the Bible that we have here

is the Bible that was presented to him

by his mother when he wasalmost nine years old.

When he graduated from Sunday School

from Presbyterian Churchin Queens, New York.

- The story of how it got here

is one Vice President Pence recently told

a group of pastors at an event put on by

the Family Research Council.

- So I was with Steve Green.

I was with the whole Hobby Lobby team.

And it was time, we wentover there for a conference

and he said, "Well we'vegot a formal request in,

"for a Bible from the president.

"We'd like to display one of his Bibles."

And I said, oh here at the Bible Museum?

He said, "Yeah."

And I said, I got that.

I said let me take that one.

- [Jenna] Pence told him toforget about the paperwork

and took the requestright to the president.

- So anyway I got back that night

and he called me up,and we usually check in

at the end of the day.

And I said hey by the way, Iwas over at the Bible Museum

and they wanna display one of your Bibles.

And he said, "They wannadisplay one of my Bibles?"

And I said, yeah I meanlike put it in a case

and people can see it.

And he goes, he said, "Well that's great."

He goes, "Hang on a second."

He goes, "It's around heresomewhere, hang on a second."

(audience laughing)

And he puts the phone down (laughing).

(audience laughing)

And I hear him rummaging around.

(audience laughing)

And he came back to the phone and said,

"Got it, I got it, I got it, I got it."

He said, "I'll bring it in tomorrow."

- [Jenna] Sure enough Pencesays Trump brought the Bible

to the Oval Office.

- President started inwith all the briefers

and then he looked at me,

and he pushed the Bibleover in my direction.

I picked it up,(audience laughing)

and I opened it up,

and it was inscribed from his mother.

- [Jenna] Inside, is a note from

the day Trump was confirmed in his faith.

- He said, "Is that oneokay, is that good?"

And I said, oh this'll be good (laughing).

(audience laughing)

- [Jenna] The museum's request,settled just like that.

- It's pretty exciting for us here.

- And for the thousands, whocan now see Trump's Bible

when they visit.

And a special place,the Museum of the Bible.

Well that's gonna do it, forFaith Nation, this evening.

We'll see you right backhere again tomorrow.

Have a great night.

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