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- Well welcome, folks to this edition
of the 700 Club.
You know, desperately Americanswant peace and harmony.
They really do.
They want joy to the world,they want love, you know?
That's really what the country wants
but the Democrats say, not on your life,
we're not gonna give you any love.
We're gonna have 75different investigations
of the White House.
We've already determined
who we're going after andthe Democrats' majority
in the House keeps on growing.
I said it's gonna be closerto 40 seats before it's over
and that could mean thatPresident Trump is going to be
really in, oh he's gonna behaving the time of his life
against it and his greatestally may be Nancy Pelosi.
We just don't ever knowwhat's going to happen.
- Yeah, well some in Congress
are planning to investigate.
They say that the Democrats are loading up
what they're calling a subpoena cannon
and one former Trump advisor
believes all this couldactually help the President.
CBN's Jenna Browderreports from Washington.
- The subpoena's arecoming for President Trump
and his administration.
As Democrats get ready
to take control the House,
they are coming up with along list of all the things
they want to investigate.
- We are not are scattershot.
We are not doing any investigationfor political purpose
but to seek the truth so Ithink a word that you could
describe about how Democratswill go forward in this regard
is we will be very strategic.
- [Jenna] House minorityleader Nancy Pelosi
who hopes to take over asSpeaker, says her party
will be strategic butsome new signs suggest
that may not be the case.
Axios reports Democrats areloading a subpoena cannon
with a list of at least 85 investigations
they want to pursue.
- Well I think the Democratsare very much at risk
of overplaying their hand here.
I think the Americanpeople are going to suffer
from investigation fatigue.
- [Jenna] Stephen Moore, an economist
with the Heritage Foundationand former Trump advisor
tells CBN News, he'sactually glad Democrats
will have control of the House.
- I was kind of quietlyhoping the Democrats
would take the House andthe Republicans would keep
the Senate because I feltlike if Republicans controlled
every lever of power goinginto the 2020 election
and anything goes wrong,then what party would you
possibly have to blamebut the Republicans?
Now if things go wrong,you know, Trump can say,
look, it's because thePelosi Democrats are blocking
what I'm trying to do.
- [Jenna] The Axios listcovers just about every one
and every thing closeto Trump from Day One
of his presidency.
Many Democrats aretalking about impeachment.
As the incoming House Oversight Chairman,
Representative Jerry Nadlerwould be in charge of that
but he says his number one priority
is Robert Mueller's Russia investigation.
- Right now our top priority is to protect
the Mueller investigation,to protect the integrity
of that investigation fromthe White House attempt
to stifle it and to interfere with it.
- [Jenna] The man in chargeof the investigation,
acting Attorney GeneralMatt Whittaker, will be
among the first called to testify.
- We will make sure that Matt Whittaker,
immediately one of thefirst orders of business
will be to invite him, ifnecessary, to subpoena him,
to appear before the Committee.
- It does violence to theConstitution and the vision
of our founders to appointsuch a person in such a manner
to be the chief legalofficer in our country.
- And you can count on afight from the White House.
President Trump says he'sready to take on a war-like
posture and launch investigationsinto the Democrats.
In Washington, Jenna Browder, CBN News.
- At the beginning ofthis show I misspoke.
I said 75, it's gonna be 85targets and they're talking
about preserving the integrityof the Mueller investigation.
Well I want you to know,ladies and gentlemen,
that interrogatories have been received
from the special prosecutor,the President has given
answers through his legal teamto the special prosecutor.
He has taken thousandsof pages of testimony,
hours and hours of discussion
and, as I say, an enormousamount of material
and he must wrap it up and Ithink that it's going to be
wrapped up, frankly,before the end of this year
because there's no more he could do.
There's no there there.
There was no politicalcorruption, no relationship
with the Russians.
This whole thing is nothing but a hoax.
It was started a long time ago
by a phony dossier
that came out of Englandand there was no collusion.
And that was what he was charged to do.
All right, and the JusticeDepartment has just said
that the appointment ofthis new Attorney General
is absolutely legal,absolutely appropriate
according to the law.
There's no problem with that
so do we want a nationthat is totally divided
and people yelling at eachother for the next three years?
It'll be horrible, wecan't conceive of it.
And why would the Democrats wanna do that?
Do they wanna go on the record as being
the chief opposers?
What is their plan?
Let 'em give forth a plan,here's how we're gonna make
America good and greatand a nice place to live.
Well, our chief politicalanalyst David Brody
is joining us now,
and David I understand NancyPelosi is facing a strong
challenge for Speaker.
What do you think of that?
That's right, Pat.
You know we've talked alot, or there's been a lot
of talk about Republicanshaving some issues
as it relates to Trumpand certain factions
within the Republican party.
The Democrats are having a devil of a time
trying to get their act together
and we may see it play out in January
when the Speaker of the House is elected.
Nancy Pelosi's expected tobe the Speaker but she needs
218 votes and right now atleast, when we're talking
right at this moment, thereare about 232 Democrats,
so that means, if I dothe math 232 minus 218
means she can only lose 14 Democrats.
Right now it seems likeat least 17 Democrats
are opposed to her.
They have actually come out and said,
I'm not votin' for her.
So that's a problem.
She can only lose 14 of those 17.
We'll see, times have a wayof kind of ironing all of this
out but there is going to be
a letter sent in the nextcouple of weeks by some of these
disgruntled Democrats whoare against Pelosi saying,
we don't want her to be Speaker.
That'll be the story going forward, Pat.
- Well, they've gottahave somebody against her.
Who is the somebody do you think would be
the focal point of that opposition?
- Well, they're having a hard time
trying to figure that out.
There's been a talk of awoman named Martha Fudge
possibly, Congressman MarthaFudge but at this point,
they don't really know andthat's a big part of the problem.
- Do you agree with Steve Moore
that it could be a goodthing for the Republicans
if the Democrats control the House?
- I definitely agree withSteve on that point, for sure
as it relates to, look, ifthings bog down in Washington,
at least it's not allTrump's fault, right?
In other words, it's notjust the Republican party
controlling both the House,the Senate and the White House.
I also think that basicallyDonald Trump needs a foil
and Nancy Pelosi, the Democrats,
the House of Representatives controlled
by the Democrats will be awonderful foil politically
for him in 2020.
Here's part of the problem here.
With all of theseinvestigations that Jenna
was talking about in the pieceearlier, here's the issue.
We know, for example,with the Bengazi hearings
that came up, all of thatinvestigation that went on
during the Obama administration.
Well what came out of that?
Well, that Hilary Clinton email server.
That was the whole big talkout of that Bengazi hearing.
So look, if there are a lotof different investigations
going on here with Trumpand we have new information
that comes out, well that'snot just fodder for Democrats,
it's fodder for the media,it'll play into 2020
and could affect DonaldTrump's re-election chances.
- Well, it looks like, bythe way, that the Democrats
have performed better than we anticipated.
My count is that they mightwin as many as 40 seats
in the House.
What do you think happened?
- Well there are a lotof things that happened.
I mean, it wasn't technicallya blue wave, but it was
pretty close to a blue wave.
Look in the Senate, for example.
They could be in an even draw.
I mean, if Florida for somereason goes to Bill Nelson,
and that's a whole'nother oy gevalt moment,
but if that's the case, it could be 51-48
or basically 51-49 ifyou will, and we're back
to where we started again and why?
Well look, Arizona, whichwe thought at the time
was gonna go to theRepublican Martha McSally,
ended up going to Kyrsten Sinema.
And of course, Democratshaven't, they haven't voted
for a Democrat Senatorin Arizona in 30 years
but that state is goingmore purple, so there's
a demographics issuethat Republicans have.
There's obviously a suburbanindependent women issue
that Republicans have, as well.
And as for John Tester inMontana, that was the other
one Republicans were hoping to get.
Matt Rosendale ultimatelywasn't that great
of a candidate and JohnTester was actually
well-liked in Montana despitethe fact that Donald Trump
and Mike Pence tried to go out there
quite a bit and beat him.
- The suburban women sayingthat Donald Trump reminds them
of their first husband, andthat is not a good thing.
What's he gonna do to getthose suburban women back?
- Look, I think the trainhas left the station on this.
In other words, here's the answer.
The answer is he has to becalmer on the Twitter feed
and not be so bombastic.
And I say, ha ha ha, good luck with that.
That's not gonna happen, Pat.
You and I know it so they're gonna have
a suburban woman problem.
And so that is whatsuburban independent want.
They don't necessarily mindthe policies, necessarily.
They actually kind of like the policies.
It's the rhetoric from Donald Trump.
It's just not gonna change.
He's a New Yorker throughand through, not happening.
Now, as it relates to evangelical women,
77% of evangelical womenactually support Donald Trump
but here's the issue.
What about that other 23%?
Look, 23% of white evangelicalwomen in this country,
many of them in the suburbs,either somewhat approve
or somewhat disapprove of Donald Trump.
This is the issue forDonald Trump in 2020.
Everybody talked about those evangelicals
going for Donald Trump and81% voted for him in 2016.
The problem is, is if hedoesn't win some of those
white evangelical women inthe suburbs over in 2020,
that 81% could go downto, let's say, 79% or so
and that will not get himelected into a second term.
- If you were sitting inthe White House saying,
Donald, here's what I wanna advise you,
what would you tell himto do to win those women?
- Wow Pat, that is a tricky question.
(laughs)I can't give advice,
I'm just a journalist.
I played one on television.
I really am a journalist.(laughs)
I think, though, Pat whatI just said, they may wanna
rewind the tape and actuallylisten to what I just said
because it's not advice, it's analysis
and it's true.
They've gotta figure outwhat they're gonna do
in the suburbs and theway they've gotta do it
is somehow tone down therhetoric, though we know
that's not gonna happen sothey can talk about policies
all they want, but atsome point they've gotta
figure out a way to bringthose evangelical women
back into the fold.
- They've got Hispanics evenin Florida and he appeals
to them saying, do you wannamake this like Nicaragua?
They get the message but you've got people
in Nevada, you've got people in Arizona,
you've got people in New Mexico,
you've got people in California,you've got 'em in Texas.
You have so many Hispanics
and what has he done
to turn them against him?
They really, that's whatthat vote signifies,
it seems like to me that McSally lost
in Arizona and so forth.
I mean those Hispanics arevoting against Donald Trump.
- Well here's the thing.
I think it's broader than that, Pat.
I think you can make theargument that Hispanics
have unfortunately voted,if you're a Republican
unfortunately voted,against the Republican party
based on one issue and that's immigration.
It's really that simple.
And when a state goes more purple,
that's what's gonna happen.
I mean, look, we know whatthe Hispanic community
is all about.
They are pro-family.
Family, the culture, it's soimportant to Hispanic families
all across the country,but they get tripped up,
I say they get tripped up,they have an issue with this
one issue immigration.
It has played big time inNevada, big time in Arizona,
to a degree in Texas.
Why did Ted Cruz have such a hard time?
Yeah, the candidate there was impressive
but at the same time, Texas, too.
So we're seeing this all over the country
and I think we're gonnahave to wait to see
how that plays out.
- David, thank you very much.
And ladies and gentlemen- You bet.
I really appreciate whatthe president is doing.
I mean the evangelicalswere strongly for him
but there's some warning signsand I just really believe
that he's got to be aware of what's there
and you know, as those whowould counsel the president,
we've really got to change course
and recognize these suburban women
and these Hispanic people.
It's gonna be costly unless we change
some of the tone and the rhetoric.
- Yeah, well it remains to be seen whether
that can happen or not, you know,
when it's bone deep I'm not sure it can.
Well, up next a raresign of bipartisanship
on Capitol Hill.
Both sides of the aisle arecoming together on a bill
to reform our criminal justice system.
- Whites and blacks usedrugs at the same levels
but if you look at therates of incarceration,
people of color are incarceratedat much higher rates.
- [Terry] Hear how ateam of unlikely allies
are helping formerinmates get second chances
when we come back.
And welcome back to The 700 Club.
isn't one of the most popular issues
in Washington butWednesday a bipartisan bill
aimed at giving prisoninmates a second chance
got a boost from President Donald Trump.
Amber Strong introducesus to the diverse group
of allies behind the billand the race against time
to get it through Congress.
- [Amber] The movement towardcriminal justice reform
received a welcome andnecessary boost on Wednesday.
- Today I'm thrilledto announce my support
for this bipartisan bill thatwill make our communities
safer and give formerinmates a second chance
at life after they have served their time.
- The clock is ticking on Congress' chance
to make real changes to thecriminal justice system.
And while things couldn'tbe more divided here
on Capitol Hill, advocatessay the time to act is now.
They include Kelley Paul,wife of Senator Rand Paul.
- I came to this issue alittle bit through my work
in Kentucky visitingvarious halfway houses,
recovery centers like the Hope House
and the Isaiah House and realizing
how pervasive our drug problem is
and how we need alternativesto incarcerating people.
- [Amber] Paul also saw howprison life specifically
affected female inmates.
- [Kelley] People are notaware of some of the things
that were going on in our prisons.
First and foremost womenwho were giving birth
were being shackled.
- [Amber] For Paul, fixingthe problem reaches directly
to the heart of justice, right and wrong.
- If you look at the numbersthat whites and blacks
use drugs at the same levelsbut if you look at the rates
of incarceration, peopleof color are incarcerated
at much higher rates.
I'm a conservative but Ialways say, big government
really hurts peoplefrom all walks of life.
I think a lot of times whenprogressive hear conservatives
talk about big government,they think we're just concerned
about taxes or overregulationor business or economics,
but really this is a civil rights issue.
- [Amber] So Mrs. Paul isdoing something she says
her friends aren't used toseeing, bringing her desire
to right those wrongsstraight to Washington.
And she's not alone.
The push for criminal justicereform extends far beyond
the halls of Congress.
Everyone from Christianadvocacy groups to celebrities
to the president's son-in-law
all working together for change.
Jared Kushner has been thepivotal player in this.
comes to this issue.
His own father wasincarcerated and he has been
the driving force insideof the White House
in making sure that this gets done.
- [Amber] Former prisonershave also been instrumental
in this fight along with those who preach
about second chances.
2,000 pastors signed a letter
in support of Congress' latest effort.
The bill, dubbed the FirstStep Act, calls for more
opportunities to receive good time credit,
better conditions for women,
and incarcerating prisonerscloser to families.
It's been a tough decision for a president
who campaigned on lawand order, but support
from the NationalFraternal Order of Police
seemed to help balance the scales.
- The bill includesreasonable sentencing reforms
while keeping dangerousand violent criminals
off our streets.
- [Amber] The ball isnow in the Senate's court
where advocates hopethis lame duck session
can lead to a second chance for prisoners
and families across the nation.
Amber Strong, CBN News, Washington.
- Now we watch and see if Congress
can come together to pass it.
- Well, the big thing isthe congressmen are afraid
of going to the electoratebeing told, oh he's soft
on crime so the idea is I'vegot to be tough on crime
which means that I can't have anything,
any mandatory minimum sentences.
I cannot give discretion to a judge
to decide what to do.
I'm gonna force him andhere's what he's gonna do
whether he likes it ornot and that meant we are,
quote, tough on crime.
It has backfired.
It was not a smart move tobegin with but it can be
a campaign issue, andpoliticians love to demagogue
these things, they love to demagogues.
So somebody votes anintelligent vote that will make
the country better andthat gets demagogued
by the opponent on the other side.
So the president's saying,look, I'm gonna give you cover
going in to the election soyou can say the president
wants to do this and it's his fault.
Well that's the way it is.
Hey by the way, no sunspots.
Global warming's gotnothin' to do with it.
Mars doesn't have cars drivingaround with toxic fumes
but Mars is having adifferent time in terms
of heat and cold and so on.
Well, we're gonna havea whopper of a winter
and it's officially here.
Efrem, what's the story?
- Well I can tell you thecalendar may not say winter
but the weather certainlytells a different story.
A nor'easter is bringingsnow and ice to the northeast
with snow already fallingin Washington, D.C.
The nation's capital couldsee today one to three inches
of snow, parts of NewEngland up to a foot.
Houston, Texas saw itsearliest snowfall ever
and San Antonio hit 23degrees Wednesday night.
That is the lowest in more than 100 years.
Turning now to the firein Northern California.
It is now the deadliest inthe state's recorded history.
The death toll stands at least at 56
and with more than 100people still missing,
first responders fearthat number could double.
The town of Paradise,California is ground zero.
Nearly 9,000 homes were destroyed there.
We can also tell you OperationBlessing is going to be
working there as well.
- We certainly are, andladies and gentlemen again
I just say it's a tragedybeyond measure and you think
of Paradise completely wiped out.
The town completely wiped out.
These fires have beendeadly and devastating
and the Santa Ana windshave been of great ferocity.
It's a horrible thing andwe stand with those people
in California who are sufferingand we don't wanna point
any fingers at anybodybecause of anything.
What we wanna say is thisis one of those things
that happens in nature andit's been just devastating
and we want to just prayfor them and do everything
we can to help.
And I think certainly thefederal government is got
to step up and offer somekind of loan assistance
so these people can rebuild their homes.
When you look at mansionsin Malibu all the way
up to Paradise, it's upand down that whole state.
The worst naturaldisaster of this magnitude
in the history of America.
It is has been horrible.
- Well coming up, they'reactors, comedians and singers
and now you'll see anotherside to this dynamic duo.
David and Tamela Mannopen up about their love
and their family after this.
(inspiring upbeat music)
- Well back in high school,David Mann was in a talent show
and as part of the bigfinale he tore his shirt off
to end the performance.
In the audience that day,David's future wife, Tamela.
So love at first sight, right?
Not exactly, but at leastit did serve as chapter one
for their love story.
Take a look.
- [Announcer] NAACPAward-winning actor and comedian
David Mann and GrammyAward-winning solo artist
Tamela Mann are nostrangers to the limelight.
But it's not what they didin front of the cameras
has made their relationship last.
With a blended family underone roof and lots of mouths
to feed, the Manns knewthey had to work together
if their family was going to survive.
In their memoir, Us Against the World,
David and Tamela sharewhat they have learned
over 30 years of marriageand how it's made them
stronger than ever.
- Well David and TamelaMann are back with us now.
We welcome you to the 700 Club again.
It's great to have you here.
- Thank you, thanks for having us.
- So he tore the shirt off
and not love at first sight, right?
- I was like oh.
- She didn't like it at all.
She was like, bah, boo.
- I was not a fan.
- So when did that fire get lit? (laughs)
- Well it was on down the line
a little bit.- Some years later, yeah.
Yes, because actually hedidn't even know I was there.
It so happened--
- I didn't find out till later
that she was there- Years.
and seen that.
- He was like, he was talkin' about it.
I was like, yes, I saw youand I saw you rip your shirt.
- And I asked her, saidyou liked it didn't you?
No, not at all.
- He had the other girlsbut I was like, oh ah.
- In chapter two of yourbook, I just wanna mention it
again called Us Against theWorld, you have the title,
Will You Marry Me and OtherQuestions David Never Asked.
David, what's up with that? (laughs)
- Because I never asked her to marry.
- So how did this come to pass?
- I just said, we're gettin' married.
- He told me.
- [Terry] And you went along with that.
- No.- Well, actually
we were riding and we just,I just kinda heard him
and I just kept drivin''cause that particular day
I was drivin' and he wasin the passenger seat.
- And so I was like, did you hear me?
Like this was a whole week later.
- Time passed and he waslike, did you hear me?
I was like, yes.
(laughs)I did hear you
but I knew in my heartI wanted to do that,
I wanted to be his wifebut I wanted to make sure
that's what he wanted todo, and I know sometimes
we women can kinda try to encourage
- Push, push, push, yeah.- the guy,
but I just wanted to make sure--
- She just wanted to makesure I had all my stuff
out of the stuff out of the way.
- My extracurricular activity.
- [Terry] Well, that's a wise thing.
- You say that the secretto your relationship
is outdoing each otheroutdoing each other.
- Right.- Yes.
- Talk a little bit aboutthat and how you do that?
- Well what happens is I try to outdo him.
Anything that, for instance, if I get up,
and well, if he makes me breakfast,
then I'll make breakfast,
- She can one-up me.
- so I have to try to makebreakfast look even nicer
and make my eggs fluffier,so it's like whatever it is,
I just use that for anexample, which is to me,
we try to outdo each otherdoin' for each other.
Nothing goes wanted,all the needs are met.
- And yeah, like shesaid, we do that to try
to make sure that everyneed is met for each other.
I wanna make sure that I'mpleasing her, satisfying her,
making sure she's takencare of in every area.
- You know that takes aconcerted effort and you can't
be worried about what you're getting
- Right.if you're doin' that well.
- And that comes from me knowin'
that she has my best interests at heart.
I mean I realize and Iknow that if I'm in a room
of thousands, I know thatthere's one person in there
who's gonna be cheeringfor me at all costs so,
- [Terry] She's got your back.
- yeah, yes ma'am.
- Talk a little bit, if youwill, about your blended family
because that is a hard thing to do well.
How have you done it well?
- Well we always say wehave a super-blended family.
We have two together, two from--
- previousprevious relationships
relationships and thenwe adopted my niece.
My sister passed awayand we took in my niece.
We had just been married not quite a year.
- So imagine being 22 years old
- 22 years oldwith a 14 year old.
- and she was 14.
So it was like our familybecame super-blended
and then it's like, okay,what are we gonna do?
How we gonna take care of 'em?
But the Lord provided, soit's like we worked hard
but our goal was, I grewup being a stepchild
so my thing is never to makemy kids feel like they're
not a part because whenyou say being step, to me
that's bein' stepped uponand no child wants to feel
like they're being steppedon or not feel a part
so I worked hard in itbecause with him bringin'
in the girls.
- We always say somebodyshould be able to walk
into your house and nevernotice or never know
where the blend begins.
Like, they shouldn't beable to tell which is which,
it should just be a bigmesh, a mesh of love.
- But here's the big questionto me is I know how hard
it is to blend a family'cause we've done that
in our own family through adoption
but often that takes atoll on a relationship,
and you guys are so tight with each other.
How did you keep thekids from driving a wedge
between the two of you?
- She's my priority, I'm her priority.
That's even how the title,Us Against the World
came about because there wasa situation in our marriage
and I explained to her,listen I love my kids,
I love 'em dearly butat the end of the day
it's us against the world.
It's us, you're my priority.
We have to be happy andon one accord to make
all of this work.
If we're not on oneaccord, none of this works.
- Well I know that therestill has to be conflict
and differences of opinionthat come up and you say
there's an art to arguing.
- Well because the thing is we always
wanna get an understanding,not to just to be
saying things just to get yourpoint across or to be right.
So it's like, at the bottom line
we wanna stick with theissue and then once we are
in this heated moment becausewe do have heated moments,
we're not tryin' to paint aperfect picture that we have
a perfect marriage becausewe have misunderstandings
just like everybody else,especially with bein', like,
in the light of things withtelevision and all that
people think, like, oh they just happy.
For the most part, yeswe are but there are days
that I may not like him so much.
I'm just bein' honest.
- [Terry] I've got his back- Right.
- but I don't like him.
- Right but I have toask the Lord to help me
and give me peace so Ican be the peacemaker.
- And so even with the artof arguing, a lot of people
argue to get that strong point across.
It should always, like she said, be to get
that understandingbecause you can say stuff
that's piercing, that cantear down and you've done
more damage just tryingto get your point across.
Then could you have said, Ididn't know you felt that way.
I didn't understand.
Okay, now we understand why we disagree.
- So what I hear you saying,David, is that listening
is a huge part
- It is.of that.
- Resolving an argument.- It's
a big part.
You know, when you'retalking so much your ears
are kind of closed 'causeyou're tryin' to make sure
that this hole is puttin'out more than these holes
are pullin' in, so.
- And you can't always wanna win.
What does faith play in your relationship?
- It's our everything.
It's our foundation, our faith in God.
I mean that's how we reallymet was through singing Gospel
music together and withoutGod we wouldn't be here.
I mean I feel like I wouldn't exist.
Music is what saved me,I started in the church
and it's like, it's really my rock.
So it's our true foundation of everything.
So it's like- And that's what we want--
we live, we move,- Exactly.
we have our being- That's what we wanted to do
because of our faith.
- That's what we wanted to do in the book.
We wanted to take peopleon our journey of 30 years
through our ups, downs, good,bad, all the things in between
and with that we wantedto also do a soundtrack
to the book so we put some of the stories
in the chapters from the bookand made songs out of 'em.
We sit down with a team ofwriters and they came up
with some incredible,incredible songs from this.
- Well with 30 yearsyou've earned the right
to share some wise counsel (laughs).
- Yeah, a few.
- Well, I wanna tell folksabout the book and the CD.
For the Manns' story besure to check out the book.
It's called, as I said, UsAgainst the World, perfect title.
It's available in stores nationwide.
That also happens to bethe name of their album,
the first one they've done together,
Us Against the World, the Love Project.
It's available at Walmart,Amazon, iTunes and Spotify,
so easy to get a hold of bothand with Christmas coming
what a great opportunityto give this wise counsel
to someone in your family.
Thanks so much.
- Thank you.
Also we did an audio version.
- The audio version of itis available for somebody
who cannot or may not like to read.
Great to have you here.
- Thank you.
- Well still ahead, we'regonna put Pat on the hot seat
when we answer your email questions.
One viewer says, I have fourchildren by the same man
but we're not married.
He's abusive and we arenow on the run from him.
Is God punishing me for my sin?
Pat's gonna tackle that and more
but first, a man's hiddenlife comes back to haunt him
during his 10th anniversary trip.
Find out what happened.
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- Welcome back to the 700 Club.
We're so glad you're with us today.
I wanna introduce you to Brady.
Brady and his wife went toHawaii for their 10th anniversary
but while they werethere, Brady went trolling
the gay beaches in orderto have sex with other men.
Brady had tried to keep hissecret desires under wraps
but he knew he wouldn't be ableto keep that secret forever.
- It was really a cycleof going through guilt
and conviction and then, youknow, having all these desires
and so I'll feed thosedesires and then crashing down
with guilt and conviction again.
It was just a rollercoaster.
- [Announcer] Brady Rand was 12
when he was first exposed to pornography.
- One of my friends,he had taken a magazine
from his dad's collectionand even to this day
I can still remember thatfirst image that I looked at.
It opened my mind up toa world that I had never
been exposed to and so I reallywanted to just explore that.
- [Announcer] Not long afterthat, Brady and another male
friend had their first sexual encounter.
- We began talking aboutsex and then eventually
we did start experimentingwith each other.
It occurred to me that I should probably
talk to somebody aboutthis but I never did,
just out of fear of, youknow, what they would think,
fear of what my parents would think.
- [Announcer] After highschool, he joined the Navy.
- I had been stationed in Hawaii.
My desires to be with othermen really kind of amped up
at that point and there'sa lot of opportunities.
There's different bars andthere's different hangouts
and those kind of things.
- [Announcer] Brady's promiscuitywas always in conflict
with his Christian upbringing.
- God was convicting meduring those times and trying
to let me know, hey thisisn't the right way,
but after that guilt and thoseconvictions would wear off,
it'd be more and more difficult
to abstain from those things.
- [Announcer] Brady wasdischarged from the service
and returned to Oklahoma where he married
his high school sweetheartand they had two children.
All the while Brady kepthis secret life hidden.
- I loved my first wifewith my whole heart.
I believed that, you know,if I married this woman,
if I had this woman withme every day of my life
maybe that would help, youknow, stave off this desire.
- [Announcer] For many yearsBrady was faithful to his wife
and stayed active in hischurch, but in 2006 the couple
made plans to celebratetheir 10th anniversary.
- We'd planned an eight day trip to Hawaii
and I should have recognized
that that was gonna be a trigger for me.
It was probably about threeor four days into our trip,
I went back to that first gay beach
that I had gone to back whenever
I had first moved to Hawaii
and I had a hookup with a gentleman
that I'd met on the beach.
- [Announcer] That trip setBrady back on his old pattern
for several more years.
- I had gone six yearswithout cheating on my wife.
I had made this commitmentto God that I had now broken.
Whenever we got back fromour trip I kind of had
this mindset of, I just didn't really care
anymore about that
and about suppressing that.
I had gotten my first desktopcomputer and you know,
of course, that justopens up a whole new world
as far as pornographyis concerned and I did
kind of go into thisdeep hole of pornography
and just kind of buried myself in that.
I started meeting other men.
- [Announcer] Brady andhis wife began attending
a different church, despitethe fact that her health
began deteriorating from diabetes.
- She wanted to be at church.
She knew that she wasn'tgonna be here a lot longer
and she wanted to make the most of it.
- [Announcer] Brady'spastor then invited him
to attend a conference.
I really had reached thispoint of hopelessness.
I would have thoughts of suicide because,
just because of that despair
and just that guilt that I had felt.
I had really stopped hearingfrom God and I wasn't
able to hear His voice anymore.
All of a sudden I felt thisdesire to go to the conference,
that I needed to be there.
And you know, looking back at that moment
I know that it was God,it was the Holy Spirit.
- [Announcer] Brady's lifechanged forever that weekend.
- I'd never been to a prayer conference
and Pastor Corey Jones, thatwas one of his conferences.
He's felt led to just bringthe church back to praying
and back to a commitmentof really crying out to God
and that's what his conference was about.
- [Announcer] At onepoint in the conference,
Brady felt a hand on his shoulder.
- I connected eyes with the pastor.
Within about 25 or 30 secondshe was standing next to me
and he had his hand on myshoulder and he just said,
he just began to pray over me.
He said that whenever he wassitting there on the stage
looking out at the crowd thatmy face was the only face
that he could see, that everything else
was kind of blurred outand God told Pastor Corey,
I want you to go and praythat he would be filled
with the Spirit.
For the first time inmy life I began to feel
the manifest presence of theHoly Spirit just falling on me
and it was a powerful, powerful thing.
And all of that sin, I couldliterally feel it leaving
my body, and it was in thatmoment that I just began
to weep uncontrollably, justtears pouring out of my face
and it was maybe
about 10 seconds later I realized that sin
that I had asked God for 26years to take out of my life,
I could feel that leaving my body,
literally leaving my body.
And at that point I beganto laugh uncontrollably
because I was so happy
and I was so excited tofinally be free of this
and I knew that it wasauthentic, I knew that this
was an actual encounter withthe Holy Spirit, with God.
- [Announcer] Bradystarted being discipled
at his church and has never looked back.
- The freedom that Ifelt from that encounter
with the Holy Spirit was life-changing.
I knew that this was forever,it's not just something
that I did on my own.
- [Announcer] Sadly, Brady'sfirst wife passed away in 2014
as a result of complicationsfrom her diabetes.
Two years later Brady married Raquel.
They now have a blended family of four
and are both involved in ministry.
- If I could say anythingto anybody that's struggling
today with that, maybe suicidal thoughts
or maybe just depressionor maybe just hopelessness,
I want them to know that Jesus is real,
that Jesus is still in thebusiness of changing people,
that He cares about you deeplyand there is true freedom
that's available to them.
Just don't give up on hope.
- Don't give up on hope.
What a wonderful word.
But you see folks, whatwe're dealing with here
is pornography for a 10 or 11 year old.
I don't think any ofus have any conception
of what pictures in pornographycan do to a young boy
when he's 10 or 11 years old.
It can totally warphis life and perception
and that's what happened to Brady.
And it went from pornographyinto various other types
of sexual expression andhe had this huge burden
and it was gripping him and he hated it
because it had seized control of him.
I think there's a spirit of sexuality
that comes into people.
I think that there's a demonic spirit
that comes and takes possessionof people and I think
that pornographic thingis a gateway into so much.
And we think, oh porn islegitimate, we got to allow porn,
we have to have laws togive free expression to porn
and all this stuff.
Well, the truth is itdoes irreparable harm
to young people and Bradyis one who was set free.
Now some of you right nowmay have the same kind
of feeling of guilt that Bradyhad and if you've got it,
the Lord will take it away.
He is able to come anddeliver you from bondage,
and that is bondage.
You don't wanna be bound.
He said He came to set thecaptives free and you're supposed
to be free and if youwanna be free right now,
I want you to pray with me andwe will ask the Holy Spirit
of God to come and set you free.
Father, just pray with meright now, Father I come
to you now and I ask to be free.
I wanna be free from bondage.
Take the bondage away from me, Lord.
In the name of Jesus I renounce it,
I command it to leave me andI speak the word of faith
in Jesus' name.
May the Holy Spirit of God fill me now
that I might be set free from bondage
for I want to be in theliberty and the freedom
of the children of God.
Thank you, Lord.
Thank you, Lord thatyou've heard my prayer
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Tanya says, my pastor loves Harry Potter.
He also has a Magic 8 Ball.
Are these okay for Christians?
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You ready for some questions?
- All right, lay it on me.
- Okay, this is Tanya whosays the pastor at the church
I attend said in a church servicethat he loves Harry Potter
and always looks for it on the television.
He wanted to know who elsein the church watches it too.
He also said in a previouschurch service that he has
a Magic 8 Ball that you ask it questions
and it gives you an answer.
What's your opinion on this?
- I think this is demonic.
The lady who wrote theHarry Potter series,
as I understand it andI believe I'm correct,
was deeply influenced by the occult
and this whole Harry Potterthing has occult roots.
Now what this man istalkin' about is a ball.
You shake the ball and you get an answer,
whether your ex-spouseloves you or something.
- You have to ask the questionand then the ball gives
- Yeah, you ask it the question
and it gives you an answer.
Does my ex-wife love me?
The answer is, no she hates you.
But I mean the idea ofasking a crystal ball
for information, I mean it's demonic,
it is wrong, it is satanic.
I would get out of that churchor I would bring the people
in and throw that pastor out.
He is not God's servantdoing that, trust me.
- Okay, this is a viewerwho says, I am not married
and have four children by the same man.
We've lived together foryears but he is abusive.
My four children and I managedto escape and leave him.
After we left, my daughtertold me that her dad
had been raping her for years.
We have nowhere to go.
The homeless shelters are all full.
Things just keep getting worse.
Is God punishing me for living with a man
without being married?
- You know, you've gotta be kidding.
I mean, really.
Is God punishing you?
No, you've made horrible decisions.
You started having an adulterous relation
or a fornication with a person.
You're living with a guyyou're not married to.
He's beating you up and abusive
and then he's raping your daughter.
I mean for heaven's sakeswhat kind of man is that?
You've punished yourself.
You've sown the wind andyou're reaping the whirlwind.
That's what the bible says.
Is God punishing you?
Well God doesn't like thatkind of conduct obviously,
but you've done it toyourself and it's time you say
I've made some terriblemistakes, the Lord forgive me
and then get me on the right path.
And God will hear your prayerand He will set you free.
- She might contact a church also,
to help with the housing scenario.
- She needs a whole lot.
There are people that are outto help you, but first of all
get your head together and say,
look I've made some awful mistakes.
I'm sorry, I repent, helpme and the Lord will say
okay, I'll do it.
We leave you with Today'sPower Minute from Ephesians,
for He Himself is our peace.
Well, tomorrow a terriblecar accident leaves one woman
hanging in the balancebetween life and death.
See what she saw on the other side.
That's Friday's 700 Club.
For Terry and all of this,this is Pat Robertson.
Thank you for being hereand we'll see you next time.
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