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Good News! DNA is Not Our Destiny

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- You're watching the 700 Club.

It's getting closer andcloser to Christmas.

We've just had a niceThanksgiving weekend.

I want to tell you, yearsago when I was in college,

we studied about a Russianfellow by the name Mendel

and the Mendelian Lawwas pretty much fixed.

And the idea was that if you had a certain

genetic structure, that thatwas fixed all your life.

So you had those genesand that's what you had

and that was they way it was.

Now, scientists have come upwith something that they call,

not genetics but epigenetics

and it's an exciting new field.

It's cutting edge medicine.

It's a field that scientistshave only been studying

for the last five or 10 years

and one of their keydiscoveries is that you and I

can turn certain genes on

and we can turn certain genes off.

And what's more, thesechanges can actually

be passed down, just like the Bible says,

through generations, which is something

mentioned in the Bible.

Here's Lorie Johnson withthe story of epigenetics.


- [Lorie] Like millions of Americans,

Ashley Skidmore joined the trend of taking

at home DNA tests.

- All of my friends weredoing, just the ancestry test.

And I just decided on a whim,

to throw in the health section.

- [Lorie] The results indicated Ashley

inherited a gene that oftenleads to lung disease.

- I took the results tomy doctor and my doctor

was very alarmed by the results.

And I had no idea what it even was.

- [Lorie] The good news,thanks to the new science

of epigenetics, there'shope for Ashley and others.

DNA is not our destiny

because even if we inheritedsome genes we'd rather

not have, epigenetics tellsus, we can turn them off.

In his book, Change YourGenes, Change Your Life,

Dr. Kenneth Pelletiersays we control our genes,

not the other way around.

- How we live our livesand how we influence

the expression of our genes,that's what's critical,

so it gives us the responsibility

and gives us the power toinfluence our life direction.

- [Lorie] He says, bad genesare activated by bad behavior.

In Ashley's case, smokingturns on her problem gene.

- That's what makes thegene express itself.

But if you know you haveit, then you can not smoke

and you'll avoid the consequences.

- It gives me hope that I can silence it.

But if I were a smoker, it's basically,

my life expectancy is 50 years old.

- [Lorie] Epi means on top of.

Our epigenome is like flexible software

on top of our genome, whichis like fixed hardware.

Our behavior controls the epigenome,

which in turn controls the genes.

- We are in effect, aprogrammable computer.

That's how we were made.

- [Lorie] Equally fascinating,researcher Dr. Randy Jirtle

proved epigenetic changesdon't just stop with us.

For better or worse,these gene manipulators

can actually be passeddown to future generations,

backing up the biblicalwarning, written thousands

of years ago.

- You can see that ineffect, what God I think,

was telling us, is thatsince they're not totally

erased necessarily, fromgeneration to generation

as they go through the egg and the sperm,

can literally give riseto problems in the next

generation and thefollowing and the following

out to four and five generations.

- [Lorie] When Dr. Jirtlefed healthy nutrients

to pregnant mice whichcarried a gene for obesity

and jaundice, her offspringwere born thin and brown.

- There are these tran-generationalchanges that take place.

- [Lorie] Dr. Pelletierbelieves similar scenarios

play out in human beings.

- So the good new, if youmake a healthy change,

it'll be transmittedthrough your generations.

If you make an unhealthychange, it will also

influence subsequent generations.

This is a wholefascinating new technology.

- [Lorie] So while we can'tcontrol the genetic hand

we're dealt, the newscience of epigenetics

tells us we can controlhow these genes behave,

in ourselves and in our offspring.

- Lorie joins us nowto dig a little deeper.

This is a brand new field, isn't it.

- It really is, it's fascinating,

it's just the tip of the iceberg.

And I hope our viewers take note, because

we're gonna be hearing about epigenetics

for many years to come.

And you can say, Iremember when Pat Robertson

was talking aboutepigenetics way back in 2018.

- Well, it's cutting edge.

You know, again I said I learned about the

Mendelian Law that you had certain genes

and those genes were fixedand you'd go through life

with those genes, period.

Now, I had a doctor from Cleveland Clinic

come on this program, he said that

now let me tell you something,

if a pregnant woman will eat broccoli

three or four times aday while she's pregnant,

she will absolutely immunizeher children against cancer.

And I thought, that's kind of nice

for pregnant girls to learn that.

But what else have youlearned about the behavior,

when people are pregnant, what'll it do?

- Well, actually duringpregnancy is one of the most

crucial times for epigenetic changes.

So when a child is in its first trimester

that's oftentimes whenthese genes are turned on

and turned off.

And so moms need to reallybe careful about the food

that they eat, all thosenutrients, but also stress.

Stress is huge.

It has a huge impacton epigenetic changes.

And also, toxins.

Like don't breathe cigarette smoke,

don't smoke, whatever you do.

So these things are so vital.

- If somebody's mean, ifthe mother is mean and nasty

and hateful, that will stress the genes?

- It absolutely, positively will.

Not only, the most criticaltime for epigenetics

is during the first trimester,

the second most criticaltime is the entire pregnancy.

And the third is right after birth.

Those first few months andyears, up until age six.

- A couple that argue and fight

and the husband is saying terrible,

you are a nasty woman and so forth,

and the woman's pregnant and that's gonna

affect her genes for thirdand fourth generation?

- Without question.

They've shown it in animal studies

and they've also shownit in human studies.

That stress can have a terrible impact

on your genes.

It turns on all kinds ofbad genes and turns off

the good ones.

So you need to try to reduce your stress.

And tomorrow, we're gonnatalk about specific things

that you can do to turn on your good genes

and turn off your bad genes.

But I wanted to drilldown a little bit deeper

on the fact that you canpass these epigenetic

changes to generations.

They've done animal studieswhere they've passed down

epigenetic changes for 14generations in animals.

And you saw the one with the agouti mice

but they've also shown that you can

have epigenetic changeslike phobias and fears

that are passed down to generations.

They took these mice, and micelove the smell of cherries.

And so they made thesemice smell cherry blossoms

and they electrocuted them.

They would do it overand over again so that

when the mice smelled the cherry blossom,

they would be afraid.

Of course, they were afraid of that smell.

Well, then they mated those male mice

and their children andgrandchildren were afraid

of the smell of cherry blossoms.

Those children and grandchildrenwere not electrocuted.

They were just given the smell.

- Many people are talkingabout curses and demonic.

This isn't curse and demonic,this is science isn't it?

- It really is, it is.

It's absolutely scientific.

And then they showed also,

other things that canhappen during pregnancy

that are changed through the generations.

You may remember hearingabout the Dutch famine

during World War II, 1944.

This was when food wascut off to the Netherlands

and 20,000 people starved to death.

Well, women who were pregnantduring the Dutch Famine,

their children and grandchildrensuffered the effects.

But what's interesting,is when you're deprived

of the nutrients that youneed when you're pregnant,

your children are oftenobese and unhealthy

because when you don't giveyour children, in utero,

the nutrients that theyneed, there are certain

genes that affect your weightgain, and insulin resistance

and these genes do not develop properly.

In other words, thegood ones are turned off

and the bad ones are turned on.

- But that'll go second, third, fourth,

all the way down the line.

- Because a female'seggs are formed in utero.

And so there are threegenerations going on,

when you're pregnant.

Let's say you've got yourdaughter and then her eggs

are being formed.

Now, with men, with males,

their sperm are formed during puberty.

And so they've noticedthan men who are males

who start smoking pre-pubescent males

who before their sperm are formed

that their offspringand their grandchildren

are obese and have greater weight gain,

which goes to show thatthis is passed down

through the males as well.

- This is unbelievable.

You know, but I don'tknow if people realize

what their life choices, do to,

they're talking about theirchildren, their grandchildren,

their great-grandchildren, theirgreat, great-grandchildren.

It goes, how many generations, do we know?

- Well they've shown in animal studies,

fourteen generations.

In human studies, they'veshow that holocaust

survivors, so peoplewho were really stressed

their children and grandchildren

have greater anxiety disorders

and they believe thatthat's an epigenetic thing.

Now, as far as testing human beings,

there's a lot more to be done.

But we can see and makedeductions that these

are epigenetic changes.

- How do they correct this?

If you've got a kid andhe's all scared of things

because his mother was frightened,

how do you correct it?

- Well, I think the first thing,

is it makes us more compassionate,

because we've seen that people who are,

like you were talking about the way,

a child is nurtured,they've shown that mice

who are nurtured rightafter they are born,

are able to handle stressbetter later in life.

And then the nice whose mothers,

they've withheld them from their mothers,

they were subjected tostress later on in life,

and they couldn't handle it as well.

So we look at human beings and think,

hey why can they not handle,

like in battle, for example,you've got two soldiers,

one of them gets PTSDand the other doesn't,

that could be epigenetic explanation

for that too.

Same thing with people whohave difficulty losing weight.

We see adults who,

some people lose weighteasily and other people

who struggle and we are like,

hey, why don't they just lose weight.

Well, it's harder for some people

because some of their weightloss genes are turned off.

Some of their weightgain genes are turned on.

But, to answer yourquestion, what do we do?

We're gonna talk about that tomorrow.

There are specific thingsthat you can do for yourself

and for future generations.

- To think the Bible says

I will bless you to thesecond, third, fourth

and thousands of generationsto those that love me.

But I'll curse you for generation,

for down the road, andthis is being borne out

scientifically, what the Bible says.

- We suffer theconsequences of our actions

and so do our offspring.

Now, they do say that,

scientists used to believethat all epigenetic changes

were wiped out at conception.

But they found out that now,really about 10 percent,

so not all epigenetic changes

are passed down through the generations

and they're trying tofigure out which ones.

But they're saying about 10 percent.

- Whew, Lorie, this is fabulous.

Well, ladies and gentlemen,we've got tomorrow,

you're gonna talk about some of the ways

that you can beat the game.

But this whole thingabout generational curses,

this is not a spiritual curse,

this is a scientific,

a biological thing that happened.

But it's because of behavior.

If somebody is cursed,

you can imagine, couplesfighting all the time

and their offspring haveto bear the price of that.

- Right, but it is a spiritual issue

because the really, Ibelieve the best, maybe even

the only way to properly deal with stress

is through a relationship with Jesus

and following him and allthe things that he says

about don't worry, forgivepeople, bless your,

bless people who curseyou and all these things

are actually stress reducers.

And so we don't have tochange our circumstances.

People are like, oh, if Ididn't have an hour long

commute every day, then Iwouldn't have so much stress.

- That's the key.

- It's not about changingyour circumstances.

It's about changing your heart.

- I teach on miracles.

I've got a very important teaching on

how to have miracles.

And the thing that the Lord says, if you,

while you're praying, ifyou have aught against any,

forgive, that your heavenlyfather might forgive you.

So in order to get theflow of spiritual power

you have to forgive.

And this whole thing withepigenetics, is same thing.

If you have an unforgivingspirit, it'll go through

to your genes and all.

- Right, and we talkso much about nutrition

and the importance ofnutrition, eating broccoli

and all that.

But there's reason to believe, that stress

is even more damaging than a poor diet.

And again, it's not only forgiveness,

but it's not being angry,even at people like

Donald Trump and Nancy Pelosi. (laughing)

- Hoo.

- I mean, there's so muchanger and it goes on and on.

And worry, and trust andall these things are ways

to reduce stress without having to change

your life's circumstances.

People are like, oh, if I didn't have such

a bad boss, I would neversay that, by the way.

But people are like, oh if

I didn't have- Thank you

I'm not so bad.- such a bad boss,

I wouldn't be so stressed out.

And you don't have to be stressed out

even if you have a stressful lifestyle.

I did want to mention one other thing.


is different from gene editing.

Gene editing is alsovery much in the news,

especially today,there's news out of China

that people took a geneout of these children

and put a different gene in.

And gene editing is verydifferent from epigenetics.

But a lot of times,people get them confused.

What they're doing withgene editing, is they're

literally taking a geneout of a person's DNA

and putting a healthy one in.

And then these people are going on.

- Does that work, by the way?

- It does and there's thisnew machine called a CRISPR

and it's going on.

But see actuallyepigenetics and gene editing

are sort of at odds.

Because gene editing says,hey you've got a problem gene,

let's take it out andreplace it with a good one.

Whereas with epigenetics,people are saying

you've got a problem gene, justturn it off with lifestyle.

- (laughing) Lorie.

- So both of them are confusing,

both of them are brandnew, but they're different.


- Have you got any literatureon this, by the way?

- I do.

This is the book, you saw the interview

with Dr. Pelletier just a moment ago.

Dr. Pelletier wrote this excellent book,

Change Your Genes, Change Your Life.

He is a really smart guy.

He graduated magna cum laude,

me I graduated, thank thelaude, by the skin of my teeth.


- Laude, laude.

- Nevertheless, even thoughthis is a very complicated

and he's a real smart guy,

he kind of dumbs is down forregular folks to understand.

So this is a great bookto understand epigenetics.

- Well, I'm look forward to tomorrow.

This is great.

Loris, thank you so much.

- My pleasure.

- Folks, while you watch this program,

you are getting, I'mtalking about cutting edge,

we did a whole thing about the gut flora

that can change the livesof millions of people.


All these auto-immunediseases that are caused

by the gut flora not working.

Now, we're talking aboutsomething you can change

your future generations, epigenetics.

It's cutting edge andyou're here, listening to it

with our peerless, biological reporter.

Lorie, God bless you.

- By the way, speaking of,

I know we're short on time,

but you talked about the gut flora

and the gut microbiome?

Guess what.

That influences your epigenome.

We'll talk about that tomorrow.

- Oh it does?

Okay, we're getting itall together. (laughing)

- It's all inter-related.

- Alright, just before Christmas,

don't eat too much. (laughing)

Terry, what's next?

- Well, coming up, onecouple's quest for parenthood

takes them on a journeythousands of miles long.


- To finally see that child that

that you waited for

that child that

that you didn't think was gonna happen,

to start pouring thatlove into him was incred.

- [Terry] Hear a heartwarming story

about the true meaning offamily when we come back.

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