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I want to tell you, yearsago when I was in college,
we studied about a Russianfellow by the name Mendel
and the Mendelian Lawwas pretty much fixed.
And the idea was that if you had a certain
genetic structure, that thatwas fixed all your life.
So you had those genesand that's what you had
and that was they way it was.
Now, scientists have come upwith something that they call,
not genetics but epigenetics
and it's an exciting new field.
It's cutting edge medicine.
It's a field that scientistshave only been studying
for the last five or 10 years
and one of their keydiscoveries is that you and I
can turn certain genes on
and we can turn certain genes off.
And what's more, thesechanges can actually
be passed down, just like the Bible says,
through generations, which is something
mentioned in the Bible.
Here's Lorie Johnson withthe story of epigenetics.
- [Lorie] Like millions of Americans,
Ashley Skidmore joined the trend of taking
at home DNA tests.
- All of my friends weredoing, just the ancestry test.
And I just decided on a whim,
to throw in the health section.
- [Lorie] The results indicated Ashley
inherited a gene that oftenleads to lung disease.
- I took the results tomy doctor and my doctor
was very alarmed by the results.
And I had no idea what it even was.
- [Lorie] The good news,thanks to the new science
of epigenetics, there'shope for Ashley and others.
DNA is not our destiny
because even if we inheritedsome genes we'd rather
not have, epigenetics tellsus, we can turn them off.
In his book, Change YourGenes, Change Your Life,
Dr. Kenneth Pelletiersays we control our genes,
not the other way around.
- How we live our livesand how we influence
the expression of our genes,that's what's critical,
so it gives us the responsibility
and gives us the power toinfluence our life direction.
- [Lorie] He says, bad genesare activated by bad behavior.
In Ashley's case, smokingturns on her problem gene.
- That's what makes thegene express itself.
But if you know you haveit, then you can not smoke
and you'll avoid the consequences.
- It gives me hope that I can silence it.
But if I were a smoker, it's basically,
my life expectancy is 50 years old.
- [Lorie] Epi means on top of.
Our epigenome is like flexible software
on top of our genome, whichis like fixed hardware.
Our behavior controls the epigenome,
which in turn controls the genes.
- We are in effect, aprogrammable computer.
That's how we were made.
- [Lorie] Equally fascinating,researcher Dr. Randy Jirtle
proved epigenetic changesdon't just stop with us.
For better or worse,these gene manipulators
can actually be passeddown to future generations,
backing up the biblicalwarning, written thousands
of years ago.
- You can see that ineffect, what God I think,
was telling us, is thatsince they're not totally
erased necessarily, fromgeneration to generation
as they go through the egg and the sperm,
can literally give riseto problems in the next
generation and thefollowing and the following
out to four and five generations.
- [Lorie] When Dr. Jirtlefed healthy nutrients
to pregnant mice whichcarried a gene for obesity
and jaundice, her offspringwere born thin and brown.
- There are these tran-generationalchanges that take place.
- [Lorie] Dr. Pelletierbelieves similar scenarios
play out in human beings.
- So the good new, if youmake a healthy change,
it'll be transmittedthrough your generations.
If you make an unhealthychange, it will also
influence subsequent generations.
This is a wholefascinating new technology.
- [Lorie] So while we can'tcontrol the genetic hand
we're dealt, the newscience of epigenetics
tells us we can controlhow these genes behave,
in ourselves and in our offspring.
- Lorie joins us nowto dig a little deeper.
This is a brand new field, isn't it.
- It really is, it's fascinating,
it's just the tip of the iceberg.
And I hope our viewers take note, because
we're gonna be hearing about epigenetics
for many years to come.
And you can say, Iremember when Pat Robertson
was talking aboutepigenetics way back in 2018.
- Well, it's cutting edge.
You know, again I said I learned about the
Mendelian Law that you had certain genes
and those genes were fixedand you'd go through life
with those genes, period.
Now, I had a doctor from Cleveland Clinic
come on this program, he said that
now let me tell you something,
if a pregnant woman will eat broccoli
three or four times aday while she's pregnant,
she will absolutely immunizeher children against cancer.
And I thought, that's kind of nice
for pregnant girls to learn that.
But what else have youlearned about the behavior,
when people are pregnant, what'll it do?
- Well, actually duringpregnancy is one of the most
crucial times for epigenetic changes.
So when a child is in its first trimester
that's oftentimes whenthese genes are turned on
and turned off.
And so moms need to reallybe careful about the food
that they eat, all thosenutrients, but also stress.
Stress is huge.
It has a huge impacton epigenetic changes.
And also, toxins.
Like don't breathe cigarette smoke,
don't smoke, whatever you do.
So these things are so vital.
- If somebody's mean, ifthe mother is mean and nasty
and hateful, that will stress the genes?
- It absolutely, positively will.
Not only, the most criticaltime for epigenetics
is during the first trimester,
the second most criticaltime is the entire pregnancy.
And the third is right after birth.
Those first few months andyears, up until age six.
- A couple that argue and fight
and the husband is saying terrible,
you are a nasty woman and so forth,
and the woman's pregnant and that's gonna
affect her genes for thirdand fourth generation?
- Without question.
They've shown it in animal studies
and they've also shownit in human studies.
That stress can have a terrible impact
on your genes.
It turns on all kinds ofbad genes and turns off
the good ones.
So you need to try to reduce your stress.
And tomorrow, we're gonnatalk about specific things
that you can do to turn on your good genes
and turn off your bad genes.
But I wanted to drilldown a little bit deeper
on the fact that you canpass these epigenetic
changes to generations.
They've done animal studieswhere they've passed down
epigenetic changes for 14generations in animals.
And you saw the one with the agouti mice
but they've also shown that you can
have epigenetic changeslike phobias and fears
that are passed down to generations.
They took these mice, and micelove the smell of cherries.
And so they made thesemice smell cherry blossoms
and they electrocuted them.
They would do it overand over again so that
when the mice smelled the cherry blossom,
they would be afraid.
Of course, they were afraid of that smell.
Well, then they mated those male mice
and their children andgrandchildren were afraid
of the smell of cherry blossoms.
Those children and grandchildrenwere not electrocuted.
They were just given the smell.
- Many people are talkingabout curses and demonic.
This isn't curse and demonic,this is science isn't it?
- It really is, it is.
It's absolutely scientific.
And then they showed also,
other things that canhappen during pregnancy
that are changed through the generations.
You may remember hearingabout the Dutch famine
during World War II, 1944.
This was when food wascut off to the Netherlands
and 20,000 people starved to death.
Well, women who were pregnantduring the Dutch Famine,
their children and grandchildrensuffered the effects.
But what's interesting,is when you're deprived
of the nutrients that youneed when you're pregnant,
your children are oftenobese and unhealthy
because when you don't giveyour children, in utero,
the nutrients that theyneed, there are certain
genes that affect your weightgain, and insulin resistance
and these genes do not develop properly.
In other words, thegood ones are turned off
and the bad ones are turned on.
- But that'll go second, third, fourth,
all the way down the line.
- Because a female'seggs are formed in utero.
And so there are threegenerations going on,
when you're pregnant.
Let's say you've got yourdaughter and then her eggs
are being formed.
Now, with men, with males,
their sperm are formed during puberty.
And so they've noticedthan men who are males
who start smoking pre-pubescent males
who before their sperm are formed
that their offspringand their grandchildren
are obese and have greater weight gain,
which goes to show thatthis is passed down
through the males as well.
- This is unbelievable.
You know, but I don'tknow if people realize
what their life choices, do to,
they're talking about theirchildren, their grandchildren,
their great-grandchildren, theirgreat, great-grandchildren.
It goes, how many generations, do we know?
- Well they've shown in animal studies,
In human studies, they'veshow that holocaust
survivors, so peoplewho were really stressed
their children and grandchildren
have greater anxiety disorders
and they believe thatthat's an epigenetic thing.
Now, as far as testing human beings,
there's a lot more to be done.
But we can see and makedeductions that these
are epigenetic changes.
- How do they correct this?
If you've got a kid andhe's all scared of things
because his mother was frightened,
how do you correct it?
- Well, I think the first thing,
is it makes us more compassionate,
because we've seen that people who are,
like you were talking about the way,
a child is nurtured,they've shown that mice
who are nurtured rightafter they are born,
are able to handle stressbetter later in life.
And then the nice whose mothers,
they've withheld them from their mothers,
they were subjected tostress later on in life,
and they couldn't handle it as well.
So we look at human beings and think,
hey why can they not handle,
like in battle, for example,you've got two soldiers,
one of them gets PTSDand the other doesn't,
that could be epigenetic explanation
for that too.
Same thing with people whohave difficulty losing weight.
We see adults who,
some people lose weighteasily and other people
who struggle and we are like,
hey, why don't they just lose weight.
Well, it's harder for some people
because some of their weightloss genes are turned off.
Some of their weightgain genes are turned on.
But, to answer yourquestion, what do we do?
We're gonna talk about that tomorrow.
There are specific thingsthat you can do for yourself
and for future generations.
- To think the Bible says
I will bless you to thesecond, third, fourth
and thousands of generationsto those that love me.
But I'll curse you for generation,
for down the road, andthis is being borne out
scientifically, what the Bible says.
- We suffer theconsequences of our actions
and so do our offspring.
Now, they do say that,
scientists used to believethat all epigenetic changes
were wiped out at conception.
But they found out that now,really about 10 percent,
so not all epigenetic changes
are passed down through the generations
and they're trying tofigure out which ones.
But they're saying about 10 percent.
- Whew, Lorie, this is fabulous.
Well, ladies and gentlemen,we've got tomorrow,
you're gonna talk about some of the ways
that you can beat the game.
But this whole thingabout generational curses,
this is not a spiritual curse,
this is a scientific,
a biological thing that happened.
But it's because of behavior.
If somebody is cursed,
you can imagine, couplesfighting all the time
and their offspring haveto bear the price of that.
- Right, but it is a spiritual issue
because the really, Ibelieve the best, maybe even
the only way to properly deal with stress
is through a relationship with Jesus
and following him and allthe things that he says
about don't worry, forgivepeople, bless your,
bless people who curseyou and all these things
are actually stress reducers.
And so we don't have tochange our circumstances.
People are like, oh, if Ididn't have an hour long
commute every day, then Iwouldn't have so much stress.
- That's the key.
- It's not about changingyour circumstances.
It's about changing your heart.
- I teach on miracles.
I've got a very important teaching on
how to have miracles.
And the thing that the Lord says, if you,
while you're praying, ifyou have aught against any,
forgive, that your heavenlyfather might forgive you.
So in order to get theflow of spiritual power
you have to forgive.
And this whole thing withepigenetics, is same thing.
If you have an unforgivingspirit, it'll go through
to your genes and all.
- Right, and we talkso much about nutrition
and the importance ofnutrition, eating broccoli
and all that.
But there's reason to believe, that stress
is even more damaging than a poor diet.
And again, it's not only forgiveness,
but it's not being angry,even at people like
Donald Trump and Nancy Pelosi. (laughing)
- I mean, there's so muchanger and it goes on and on.
And worry, and trust andall these things are ways
to reduce stress without having to change
your life's circumstances.
People are like, oh, if I didn't have such
a bad boss, I would neversay that, by the way.
But people are like, oh if
I didn't have- Thank you
I'm not so bad.- such a bad boss,
I wouldn't be so stressed out.
And you don't have to be stressed out
even if you have a stressful lifestyle.
I did want to mention one other thing.
is different from gene editing.
Gene editing is alsovery much in the news,
especially today,there's news out of China
that people took a geneout of these children
and put a different gene in.
And gene editing is verydifferent from epigenetics.
But a lot of times,people get them confused.
What they're doing withgene editing, is they're
literally taking a geneout of a person's DNA
and putting a healthy one in.
And then these people are going on.
- Does that work, by the way?
- It does and there's thisnew machine called a CRISPR
and it's going on.
But see actuallyepigenetics and gene editing
are sort of at odds.
Because gene editing says,hey you've got a problem gene,
let's take it out andreplace it with a good one.
Whereas with epigenetics,people are saying
you've got a problem gene, justturn it off with lifestyle.
- (laughing) Lorie.
- So both of them are confusing,
both of them are brandnew, but they're different.
- Have you got any literatureon this, by the way?
- I do.
This is the book, you saw the interview
with Dr. Pelletier just a moment ago.
Dr. Pelletier wrote this excellent book,
Change Your Genes, Change Your Life.
He is a really smart guy.
He graduated magna cum laude,
me I graduated, thank thelaude, by the skin of my teeth.
- Laude, laude.
- Nevertheless, even thoughthis is a very complicated
and he's a real smart guy,
he kind of dumbs is down forregular folks to understand.
So this is a great bookto understand epigenetics.
- Well, I'm look forward to tomorrow.
This is great.
Loris, thank you so much.
- My pleasure.
- Folks, while you watch this program,
you are getting, I'mtalking about cutting edge,
we did a whole thing about the gut flora
that can change the livesof millions of people.
All these auto-immunediseases that are caused
by the gut flora not working.
Now, we're talking aboutsomething you can change
your future generations, epigenetics.
It's cutting edge andyou're here, listening to it
with our peerless, biological reporter.
Lorie, God bless you.
- By the way, speaking of,
I know we're short on time,
but you talked about the gut flora
and the gut microbiome?
That influences your epigenome.
We'll talk about that tomorrow.
- Oh it does?
Okay, we're getting itall together. (laughing)
- It's all inter-related.
- Alright, just before Christmas,
don't eat too much. (laughing)
Terry, what's next?
- Well, coming up, onecouple's quest for parenthood
takes them on a journeythousands of miles long.
- To finally see that child that
that you waited for
that child that
that you didn't think was gonna happen,
to start pouring thatlove into him was incred.
- [Terry] Hear a heartwarming story
about the true meaning offamily when we come back.