Constitution expert, David Barton, shares key issues and solutions to political, moral, and cultural crises.
- Well it may seem as ifAmerica's in the middle
of another gilded age.
The economy is roaring ahead.
Unemployment has reached record lows.
But author David Bartonsays don't be fooled.
We are at a precariousmoment in our history.
- [Reporter] David bartonis a constitutional expert
and a founder of Wall Builders,
a national pro-family organization.
He says we must address certain issues,
like racial division, agrowing immigration crisis,
and declining church attendance
if we are to survive as a nation.
- Every single revivalwill affect public policy.
It will change your laws,it will always do that.
- [Reporter] As the co-authorof This Precarious Moment,
David highlights the causesfor chaos in our country
and offers urgent steps we can take to be
a part of the solution today.
- Well David Barton's here with us.
He's the author of thisnew book, it's called
This Precarious Moment,
Six Urgent Steps That WillSave You and Your Family.
David, what's precarious?
Good to see you.
- We're kinda standing on thebrink in six specific areas.
And they're all areasthat we've dealt with
in history before,
but this generation,
we're trying to decide whether we're gonna
walk off the cliff or not.
And so, we have some decisions to make,
No nation has ever come back
if they've made the wrong decision,
so we do have some decisions to make.
- Those that heed,
fail to heed the lesson
is doomed to live 'em again.
- That's right.
are some of these precarious steps?
- Well, one of the,
first thing we pointto is racial relations.
Where we are with the racial relations
and what we do is we say
these are things that canbe solved individually.
So what we do in the book is say
here are individual thingsthat you as a person can do
to make a difference in this area.
So racial relations, immigration,
where we are with ourrelationship with Israel,
and although President Trumphas made it so much better,
we're at a point now where that last year,
we had 16 hundred anti-Israelevents on campuses,
we have doubled hate crimesagainst Jewish people
in the last year,
right now, millennials,
66% of millennials havenever heard of Auschwitz,
22% don't know what the Holocaust is.
- Come on.
66 have never heard of Auschwitz?
- Never heard of it.
- Come on!
- And so we're losing ourhistorical memory on things
so we're deciding,
no, Jews aren't that great.
And so what we're seeing with Airbnb
with what they're doing with,
with not wanting to rent to Jewish folks
because of what's happening in Israel.
That kind of antisemitism is up,
but we can fix that individually.
We point to millennials,where millennials are.
Right now in college,75% of college students
want us to be a socialistic nation.
- [Pat] Come on, are you serious?
- Do they know what socialism is?
- That's the thing.
They do not.
Talking to George Barna,he recently did a poll
where 41% of Americans want socialism,
but he went and asked anadditional 41 questions
and once they found out what it was,
only two percent actually wanted it.
So what happens is theydon't know what it is
but they want it.
And we have 53% of studentsin college right now
who think that free speechshould not be protected
and 19% of college students think that
violence is an acceptable response
to free speech you disagree with.
These are all precarious moments.
So what do we do to change it?
And that's really what we focus on.
- You mentioned immigration.
What did the founding fathers say about
You've brought up Jefferson'sthoughts and others.
What do they think about it?
- You know, it's interesting.
They were huge pro-immigration guys
in the sense that of the 39 guys
who signed the Constitution,
seven of 'em were immigrants.
And the immigrant guys said,
"Man, if we had voted whenwe first got to America,
"we would've made America likethe countries we came from."
They said you need time here
because this is such a different nation.
And so they're the oneswho set up the time
One of 'em, Pierce Butlerfrom South Carolina said,
"Look, I'm an immigrant,
"nobody should be allowedto vote in America
"til you've been here 14 years."
Well they actually settled on five years
is what the Constitution says.
So they did not allow immigrants to vote
til you've been here five years,
you learn the system, youknow what's happening.
We've got in California right now
registering illegals to vote.
Well that'll make America
just like the country they came from.
Founding fathers were huge pro-immigration
but they wantedassimilation and they wanted
education to go with it.
- I've read that about,
The illegal immigrants are about,
what is it?
that are on welfare?
- It's higher than that.
It's about 63% now, they get some...
- [Pat] 63?
- They get some form ofgovernment assistance.
- They're illegal immigrants?
- And the foundingfathers were very adamant
that if you come to Americaand go on public assistance
within five years, you'll be deported.
You have to supportyourself when you get here.
- [Pat] Are you serious?
- That was founding father policy.
- You've been here for five
and you don't support yourself,you gotta be deported?
- You gotta be able to supportyourself for five years
and you can't come
unless a religious societygives a recommendation
of your character.
So you had to have good moral char--
the extreme vetting iswhat the founding fathers
had got started back in the beginning.
- Why is everybody so...
Who wants this open borders thing is,
is the idea you've got an,
an uninformed electoratethat they'll be malleable
and therefore they'll vote democratic?
Is that the idea?
there's such a progressive thinking
and this is what we seein schools with the kids
that progressive thinking says,
"We're globalists, we're all one,
"you shouldn't have anyborders anywhere in the world."
And so we see that with Europe,
with Poland pushing back now saying,
"No, we're not doing the immigration thing
"the EU's doing, and the Czech Republic,
"and Hungary and others."
Those younger European nationsare going in the direction
that America went,
but here in America,they're trying to push us
in the direction of that,
But that's the progressive thinking.
what we face for years.
- You talk about Americabeing a post-modern,
what do you think and
why do you think so?
we don't know our history anymore.
I mean, quite frankly,
we just do not teach history.
We see right now that
92% of immigrants who come to America
can pass the history test in America.
Only seven percent of high school seniors
can pass the immigration test.
Our kids who have 12 years in school
don't know anything about this country,
the immigrants coming inknow much more than we do.
- Is this a
plot from the
teacher's union somehow
to dumb down our citizens?
I mean, the kids wherethey can't read and write,
I mean, they get through...
- Yeah, we have 19%--
in any given year right now--
19% of kids graduate from school,
19%, one out of five kids.
- Graduate from public school,
19% are illiterate?
- They cannot read or write at all
and that's after wespend $164,000 for them
to get an education.
19% of them are illiterate.
So we have a
very messed up education system,
it does not do well,
we no longer do thetesting the way we used to.
We used to have internat--
we used to have national tests, we said,
"Oh, Texas is 45th andMississippi's 32nd,"
now every state does its own test
so you can't compare the statesto see where education is.
Everybody feels good about themselves
because they've got their own tests.
- What do you think is going on?
Has it been a deliberate attempt?
I mean, you know, this
new way of reading, you know,
this is a monkey, you learn to...
Course he's got a tail,
do phonics, they don't learn math,
they don't learn these practical
- They don't learnthese skills anymore and
even in history, whichis something we both love
and believe that you can learn from.
Whatever generation you're in,you can learn from the past.
Right now, of the top 76universities in America,
if you go there as a history major,
in 64 of those 76universities you will not take
a single course on American history.
You get everybody else's history,
you will get no American history.
And that's just a history major.
So we, we're moving,
University of Wisconsinis dropping history
as a major at all,
you can't even take thehistory major if you want it.
So we're determined to moveaway from who we've been.
We don't anybody toknow what we've done or
what our government is.
The average length of a constitution
in this history of the world is 17 years.
Newsflash, we've had ours 231 years.
But we don't even tellkids that we're different
from other nations, we saywe're just like everybody else.
No, America's special,
but it won't stay special
if we do what everyother nation's done and
we just can't do that.
And that's really why we wrote the book.
- Was this a communist,
I mean, who's behind all this?
I mean, somebody's gotta be behind it.
- Pat, it's a worldview thing.
Because quite frankly, ifyou believe in evolution,
then you've got to believe that man
is always moving forward.
I mean, the founding fathers used horses,
we can't learn from them, we've got--
And so, the first thing you drop
in evolution is history.
Because we've evolvedpast where they were.
We can't learn from history.
We won't make the mistakes they did.
So you move history.
And if you're always evolvingthen you believe that
man is inherently good.
Which means you don't needrestraints on government.
Big government is what youneed because man's good
and they'll do the right thing for you.
And so it's a worldviewissue that you get into.
And when you have thatnon-Biblical worldview
or progressive, secular worldview,
you get rid of history,
you have big government,you have social programs
because the government'sgonna take care of you
because we're inherently good
and that's just not what the Bible teaches
and that's not what history teaches.
- Well that sounds likethe French Revolution,
- It is.
you're talking history, Pat.
You can't talk history, nobodystudies history anymore.
- They chopped a bunchof people's heads off
because of that.
You remember the guillotine.
in a short period of time,they used the guillotine on.
- David, I hope people get this book.
It's available wherever.
This Precarious Moment,
where do they sell this?
- Any major book distributorwill have it online.
WallBuilders.com, Amazon,any of 'em will have it.
David Barton is a
I just appreciate his viewand what he's got to say.
He's a fountain of learningand I think this book,
I commend to all of you.
David, thank you so much.
- Thanks, Pat.
- God bless you.- Bless you, bro.