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700 Club Interactive - December 6, 2018

Evangelical political activist and history expert David Barton discusses the key issues causing the current political, moral, and cultural crises and shares a solution for ending the chaos. Read Transcript

- [Gordon] A nation onthe brink of disaster.

Find out why David Barton saysits future depends on you.

Plus, hated because of her race.

- [Anita] Girls would come and beat me up

and call me Jew bred.

- Find out how she wasrescued from the horrors

of a concentration camp.

That and more on today's700 Club Interactive.

Well welcome to the show.

Here's Efrem Graham with this weeks

top five from Studio Five.

- [Efrem] At number five.

- [Announcer] Ladies andgentlemen, Chris Pratt.

(cheering and applauding)

- [Efrem] Actor Chris Prattbrings Christmas to Disney Land.

- About 2000 years ago Godsends and angel named Gabriel

to a city in Galilee named Nazareth.

- [Efrem] The actor shared the story

of Jesus' birth from Luke's Gospel

in the Candlelight Ceremonythe park has hosted

every year since opening in 1955.

- The Bible says, when she saw him

she was troubled at hissaying and considered

what manner of greeting this was.

That seems confusing to meso I'll just paraphrase it.

She was kinda scared 'cause an angel

just in from the ceiling.

- [Efrem] Saturday'scelebration also included

more than a dozen area school,church, and community choirs

who joined singers fromthe Disney Land cast.

(choir singing)

At number four.


That's Stevie Wonder lookingto make the holidays brighter

announcing an expansion ofhis annual benefit concert

to collect toys for children,

and now reaching out tothose who lost so much

in the recent California wildfires.

- One of my family members almost

lost their house in Calabasas

and so I thank God theweather -- did not happened.

- [Efrem] He calls his newproject House Full of Hope.

- We formed a foundation, whichis the House Full of Hope,

actually reach out, andgive, and do our best

to raise moneys for those that have been

so less fortunate, forthose who lost dreams,

lost their homes.

- [Efrem] At number three.

- I wouldn't be thephilanthropist that I am today.

I wouldn't be thehumanitarian that I am today

if you didn't make me understand that

there's so much more important

than what you're doing in music, son.

- [Efrem] Stars like Ushercome out to celebrate

the legendary recording producerand composer Quincy Jones

who cements his placein history with imprints

of his hands and feet in a ceremony

outside Hollywood's Chinese Theater.

He's celebrating 70 years inthe entertainment industry.

- I'm so humbled by this recognition.

God bless you, thank you.


You know how to make a short, bald-headed,

bow-legged, 85 year old grinlike fox eatin' sauerkraut.

- [Efrem] Jones is alsoone of the rare members

of the EGOT club, meaning he's won

an Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, and Tony.

- We needed somebody like you.

- [Efrem] At number two.


This is video the paparazzicaptured not long ago

with Justin Beiber in the woods

rapping freestyle with a few friends.

Rapzilla now reports it isyet another sign the pop star

is gearing up for a newChristian music project

and a collaboration with LeCrae.

The article points to a number of reasons

for reaching this conclusion and predicts

you can look for thisnew music in early 2019.

♪ He seated on the throne ♪

♪ Like long live the king ♪

♪ His position never changed ♪

♪ He been layin' in a manger ♪

- [Efrem] At number one.

- The ultimate upgrade, meet Curry Five.

- [Efrem] The NBAs Steph Curry makes

a young fan's wish come true.

Meet nine year old Riley Morrison.

- I'm a big Seth Curry fan.

I have a jersey thatI'm wearing right now.

- [Efrem] But when Riley wentonline to buy Curry shoes

she couldn't find them for girlsso she wrote Curry a letter

and got her dad to post it on Instagram.

- I know you support girl athletes

because you have two daughters

and you host an allgirl's basketball camp.

I hope you can work withUnder Armour to change this

because girls wanna rockthe Curry Fives too.

Curry, who has a daughternamed Riley himself,

saw Riley's note andresponded with this Tweet.

- [Narrator] Spent the lastdays talking to Under Armour.

We are correcting this now!

I want to make sure youcan wear my kicks proudly.

- [Efrem] And he is sending her a pair.

- It makes me feel happy thathe'd take the time to do that.

- Well for all the latestin entertainment news

check out Efrem's weeklyshow, Studio Five.

You can watch it online at

or on the new CBN News Channel.

Check your local listings.

Well coming up, is Americaon the brink of disaster?

A best selling author, David Barton,

joins us next to answer that question

and how you can make a difference.

Don't go away.

(upbeat music)

A recent Gallup pollfound 77% of Americans

see the country as greatly divided

when it comes to themost important values.

Well how do we repair that divide?

Our next guest knows how.

- [Narrator] David Bartonis a constitutional expert

and a founder of WallBuilders,

a national pro-family organization.

He says we must address certain issues

like racial division, andgrowing immigration crisis,

and declining church attendance

if we are to survive as a nation.

- Every single revivalwill effect public policy.

It will change you laws,it will always do that.

- [Narrator] As the co-authorof This Precarious Moment

David highlights the causesfor chaos in our country

and offers urgent steps we can take

to be a part of the solution today.

- Well David Barton joins us now.

It's great to have you with us.

- Thanks, it's good to be here, thanks

- This is a big warning.

How bad is it out there?

- Well you know, notto sound melodramatic,

but we've got six areaswhere we're on the brink

of making decisions, and ifyou make the wrong decision

no nation's ever survived that.

So there are some prettyserious things out there.

You know and we've been here231 under the Constitution,

we just think we'll be here forever.

Maybe, but no other nation's been able

to survive some of thedecisions we have to make now.

So we have to make the right decision.

- Okay, what are the areaswhere we need to get it right?

- Of the six areas where we look at,

you know, one of 'emis area of Millennials.

And as you look polling Millennials

there's some things that stand out.

For example, amongcollege students right now

75% want socialism instead ofany other form of government.

Now no nation's ever become socialist

and remained free and prosperous.

Never's happened, not inthe history of the world.

Then you look at that same group--

- All the socialist, communist countries

are becoming capitalist.

- They're becoming thatway and we're trying

to go the other way, whichis a goofy kind of thing.

And, by the way, it'sinteresting that in asking

those students, can youdefine socialism, no one can.

They can't define it, theydon't know what it is,

but they've been taughtthat that's the most fair,

the most equitable, prosperous thing.

So since they're the nextgeneration of leaders

that's not a good direction.

You add to that that 53%of college kids right now

think that free speech should be limited,

think that free speech is not good,

and 19% of college studentssay that violence is an

appropriate response to freespeech you disagree with.

Now you can't have a 20% cadre

of let's be violent if Idon't like what you say.

So in those kinds of areas

we're moving in the wrong direction.

Four out of five Millennials believe

there are no absolutemoral rights or wrongs,

that it's all individually determined.

You cannot survive asa nation on that basis.

So that's one of the thingsthat has to be addressed,

is what do you do with thisrising generation of leaders

who'll be leaders in medicine,and leaders in church,

and government and everything else.

What we do with immigrationat 22 million right now,

roughly 63% are doing someform of social welfare

so it's a big deal.

Economically you can't survive that.

You can't survive reallythe breakup of a culture,

you have to have an assimilatedculture in some way,

some common values.

You look at where we areat the racial relations,

the tension is extremely high,it's kind of unprecedented.

I mean we've had violent spots before

but now the tension is really high.

Education has exacerbated that.

You look at relations with Israel,

well President Trump hasdone a great job nationally,

but at the lower levelwe have, for example,

last year we had 16hundred anti-Israel events

on college campuses.

We have doubled the hate crimes

against Jewish peoplein the last two years.

You look at Millennials,66% of Millennials

have never hear of Auschwitz

and 22% don't know what the Holocaust is.

So as we look at Israel, we're seeing

a BDS kinda movement growamong the young people.

- It seems to be taking off.

It's a real puzzle to me 'cause

it's completely against the facts.

It's completely against the history.

- As is socialism, asis all this other stuff.

- And you go, wait a minute, what's wrong?

- And part of it is we no longer,

and that's why we wrotethe book 'cause we said,

you know there's nothingnew under the sun.

America's dealt withall these things before,

as has other nations, and you can have

a lot of lessons out of history.

Plus the Bible speaks toevery one of these areas.

And it's just that we don'tknow those solutions anymore.

- So what's the solution forus that know these things,

what's the solution?

- One of the things that we focus on is

you really get healthy from the bottom up,

not from the top down.

This is not something thepresident should fix, or Congress,

it's something that everysingle individual should fix.

There are steps thatevery individual can take

for example, with Millennials.

Millennials, great generation,but they have to be reached

in different way than any othergeneration in our lifetime.

There's a differentway of approaching 'em,

so learn that, do that.

You can do, Millennials, I have more fun

with Millennials than any other group

even though they thinkdifferently they are

easily convertible and movedin the right direction,

it just takes a one-on-one relationship.

So you have to spend a little time.

Same with the church, the churchhas made itself irrelevant.

The church, we're now at384,000 churches in America.

Church's senior pastors,72% say they do not

believe the Bible, they donot agree with the Bible.

So you're looking at28% of churches who do,

church's pastors, and ofthat 90% of those pastors

say we believe the Bibleaddresses every issue

but only 10% say, I'm willingto talk about the issues.

So we only have 2.8% of pastors today

willing to talk aboutissues the Bible talks about

if it's also in the news.

We've just gone silent on stuff.

So you look even 65% of Christians

have never shared theirfaith with anyone else.

In 2006, 47% of Americaproclaimed to be born again,

it's now 31%, so thenumbers are just diving.

That's not fixed by pastors,that's fixed by we the people.

That's fixed with the people in the pews.

We share our faith withothers, we learn the Bible,

we learn these teachings.

So there's so much that individuals can do

and that's why we wrote the book

'cause we get so paralyzed bylookin' at the national news

and, you know, I can't fix Congress,

I can't fix the Senate,and I can't the Supreme--

Don't worry about that,you just do what you can do

and that's what'll turn the nation around.

- Alright, what happensif we don't turn around?

- Well we'll go the way of other nations.

You know, we are an anomaly.

The average length of a constitution

in the history of the world is 17 years.

We're 231 years.

So if we decided we reallydon't like our document,

we want something different,that's an old document

written by guys who rodehorses and used ink quills,

if we get away from itwe'll have the same result

every other nation's ever had.

So it goes back to ushaving some knowledge,

having the foundation to understand

there's some biblical steps we can take.

But it's an easy fix ifwe the people will do it.

Well I say it's an easyfix, there are steps.

It's not easy.

- I think it's easy for anindividual to make a difference.

- [David] That's it, that's exactly--

- That's easy.

- That's it, that's it.

- But when we're talkin'about the grander picture,

I'm looking at a deficitthat's out of control.

I actually have given up faith

that politicians are ever gonna fix it

and it screaming along now,

a trillion three addedto it every single year.

- [David] Every year.

- And you go, well thatcan't go on anymore.

And I'm a student of history.

I know I'm looking atthe history right now

of the Byzantine Empire and what happened,

it was division along theological,

what do we really believe,and then it turned

into out of control spending on things

that didn't make a difference.

- That's right.

And that is huge.

And we see with Millennials,

they come out with a debt out of college.

It's affecting their marriage rate,

it's affecting their entrepreneurship,

and it's affecting severalareas statistically

having that debt.

And so right now we find thatless than 3% of Americans

actually have savings account.

We don't save anymore,we spend, spend, spend.

We go in debt and debt is a huge issue.

That's not one that wespecifically addressed here,

it's peripheral, becauseit's in every area.

It's families, and Millennials,and everything else

and it's gotta be addressed.

But you start with peoplegettin' themselves out of debt,

gettin' their college debt paid off,

gettin' families going again,it's stuff that can be fixed.

- Amen.

The book is called This Precarious Moment:

Six urgent steps that will save you,

you family, and our country

and it's available nationwide.

Well up next, a youngJewish girl is shipped off

to a Nazi concentration camp.

- If you think you're not going

to be fit to work we're goin to--

We'll shoot you in the spotor else club you to death.

And I said, Lord, keep me strong.

- The rest of her story right after this.

(upbeat music)

Well as a young girl Anita Dittman

was teased by her classmatesand hated by her countrymen.

That's because Anita was half Jewish

and she lived in Nazi Germany.

Before long she was forced out of her home

and into the ghettos, and thenlater a concentration camp.

(slow music)

- I was overwhelmed bythe size of the audience

but once the music started,

I became completelyoblivious to my environment.

And I danced, and I danced,and it was just wonderful.

When the music stopped, Icouldn't believe my ears.

- [Narrator] Six year old Anita Dittman's

first ballet recital was betterthan she could have imagined

especially for a Jewishgirl in 1933 Germany.

- I heard an overwhelmingapplause and I thought,

this can't happen, all these are Aryans.

- [Narrator] It had only been a few months

since Adolf Hitler wasappointed Chancellor

and already his nationalist,

antisemitic propaganda was taking hold.

A newspaper review thenext day said it all.

- It said, the dancewas superbly performed

by Anita Dittman, far above her age.

But the German people no longer wanted

to be entertained by a Jew.

Right there and then it was like

the whole world was falling apart.

- [Reporter] Hitler becomesthe leading spokesman

for the Nazis, theirslogan, Germany Awake.

- [Narrator] Anita was born to

a Jewish mother and a German father,

and even though she was raised an atheist,

that hardly mattered to the Nazi regime.

- You had to register either Jew or Aryan

and I said to my mother, where do I go?

I'm a little of both.

And she said, you're gonnabe under the undesirables.

- [Narrator] Persecution soon followed,

especially in school.

- The little Aryan boys,they would throw dog manure

and horse manure at meand girls would come

and beat me up and call me Jew bred.

- [Narrator] All the while Anita

had to declare allegiance to Hitler.

- We had to sing the German anthem and--

And I vowed I would neverlet that word, heil Hitler,

come over my lips.

(speaking foreign language)

- [Narrator] Fearingrepercussion from the Nazis

Anita's father divorced hermother and abandoned the family.

Soon after the Gestapo cameto their home and took Anita,

her mother, and oldersister to the ghettos.

It was there Anita met aworking class German family

who didn't prescribe to Hitler's hatred

of the Jewish people.

- They said one day, would you like

to come to church with us?

I said, yeah, I've never been in a church.

It had beautiful, bigstained glass windows.

They depicted Christ's birth,life, death, and resurrection.

And I kept looking at himand I was so overwhelmed.

Something happened to me.

Christ came into my life,into my heart, my soul.

I had a peace inside of methat I had not known before

and I felt a security.

No matter how things gotbad in school and everything

it doesn't matter, and balletwas no longer important.

I had traded it intosomething much better.

- [Narrator] To Anita's mother and sister

it was nothing more than a fantasy.

But Anita knew Jesus wasreal and the next day

she told her friends what had happened.

- I started to cry andI said, what can I do

to make them believe me?

And they said, you do nothing.

Turn it over to the Lord,He is gonna do the doing.

You just love your mom, love your sister.

When they see yourhappiness, even in the midst

of all the horriblethings that are happening,

the Lord Jesus will do his thing.

- [Narrator] Three years later, in 1937,

Anita began attendingschool at a Lutheran Church

that was still open to Jewish children.

One day the minister visited their home.

- He brought each one ofus a Bible and he said,

we would be very happy tohave you in our church.

And my mother said,aren't you taking chances?

You could get locked up.

But he said, how can Ipossibly not be interested

in helping God's people?

- [Narrator] Anita's motherstarted attending church

and eventually gave her life to Christ.

Meanwhile the pastor tried to secure visas

so that the three of themcould flee the country.

But only her sister's arrivedand she escaped to England.

The next day, September 1st,1939, Germany invaded Poland.

- [Reporter] Adolf Hitler plunges mankind

into a second world war.

- [Narrator] With the bordersnow closed and heavily guarded

Anita and her mother were trapped.

- [Reporter] Next the Nazislaunch a systematic campaign

of harassment, persecution,and even murder.

- They burned all the synagogues,

they demolished all thestorefronts of Jewish businesses,

they dragged old men by theirbeards out of their homes

and put them into police wagons

and shipped them off who knows where.

- [Narrator] At 15 Anitawas banned from school

and forced into heavylabor alongside her mother.

For years they lived inconstant fear as the Gestapo

took away their familyand friends one by one.

Then on January 7th, 1944,they came for her mother.

I didn't know at firstwhere they had taken her

and I found out that it was

camp Theresienstadt inCzechoslovakia, a very bad camp.

- [Narrator] Seven monthslater Anita was sent

to the Barthold concentration camp

where, for hours a day, she dug ditches

deep enough to trap Russian tanks

and eventually developed blood poisoning

due to untreated blisterson her right foot.

- I couldn't dare to letthem know I was limping

because they had the attitude,if you think you're not going

to be fit to work, we're going to--

We'll shoot you in the spotor else club you to death.

And I said, Lord, keep me strong.

- [Narrator] There, Anita metothers who also loved Jesus.

- We were housed in afilthy, old cow barn.

We weren't allowed to speak to each other

but when the guards weren't looking,

those of us that loved the Lord,

we couldn't help and talk about it.

And we'd sit and rehearseverses, especially Romans 8:28,

and you know that all thingswork together for good.

And we asked the Lord thatif He wants us to live,

would He please help us to escape.

And I tell you, leave it up to the Lord,

He devised a fantastic plan.

- [Narrator] In January 1945,

Hitler's forces went into full retreat

as the Soviet Union closed in on Germany.

Anita and four othergirls were put on a wagon

for transfer to another camp.

Using cigarettes and somechange Anita had kept hidden,

they bribed their driver, a Polish P.O.W.,

to take them to the nearest train station.

A train, surrounded by Germansoldiers, was about to leave.

In a daring move, Anitaapproached one of the men,

claiming the girls were local villagers

fleeing the Russians.

- And I said, could we ride with you?

We're separated from ourfamily because of the war.

Is there room?

And he said, we will make room.

- [Narrator] They gotoff at Bautzen, Germany,

where Anita sought medical treatment

for her now badly infected leg.

She was still recoveringin the hospital when

Russian soldiers overtook thecity, on April 21st, 1945.

A few days later, thewar in Germany ended.


Once released from the hospital,

Anita spent the nextfive weeks hitchhiking

through war-torn Czechoslovakia.

Then, on the morning of June7th, she reached the camp

where her mother had been held,

and finally reunited with her mother.

- First we didn't say anything,we were just so stunned.

Then finally we hugged each other,

and praised the Lord, and I cried,

and -- another one of God's miracles.

I mean, it was so amazing what God did!

- [Narrator] One yearlater, Anita and her mother

immigrated to United States

and made a new life in Minnesota.

Now as a grandmother, she shares her story

of how she survived the holocaust,

a miracle she credits to Jesus,

who she met when she wasjust seven years old.

- He said, let the littlechildren come unto me,

because theirs is the kingdom of Heaven,

and lest ye become like little children

can you not enter the kingdom of Heaven.

It takes that kind of a faith.

I have an awesome God.

I am not awesome, He is.

- I have an awesome God.

He is awesome, I'm not.

I'm nothing and withoutHim I can do nothing.

But this story of Anita and her survival

is a story of the spectrum that's involved

when you're waiting on the Lord,

you're waiting for Him to do things.

You're in dire circumstances.

It doesn't get any worse than

you're in a concentration camp.

That's a sentence of death over you.

So here she is, but she'swaiting for the Lord,

she's waiting patiently for the Lord.

And in that, what does she do?

Well she says, I'm goingto hide away a few coins,

I'm gonna hide away a few cigarettes

because you never know whenthat's gonna come in handy.

So here in the progress of things

as God is working all thingstogether for her good,

she finds herself on atransport and those coins,

those cigarettes come in very handy.

And instead of praying, you know,

Lord, change the driver'smind so he'll take me

to some place safe as opposedto another concentration camp,

she takes what's in her handand says, I'm gonna bribe him.

Instead of taking me tothe concentration camp,

take me to a train station.

And there God fills her with boldness

to go to the very enemywho's put her in prison

to say, take me somewhereelse, I'm fleeing from the war.

That's how God works,where we wait for Him

and then He gives us the message,

and He gives us themeans to find a way out.

He'll do that for you ifyou do the same thing.

Here's a verse toencourage us from Psalm 18,

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