- David Rubin, welcometo Jerusalem Dateline.
- Thank you, good to be with you, Julie.
- You've written a newbook, Trump and the Jews,
and you've been very outspokenabout President Trump
being very pro-Israel.
What are you looking at when you say that?
What policies are you referring to?
- First of all, as faras his accomplishments,
now he's taking a pragmatic approach
to the Israel-Palestinian issue.
He has been right behind Israelas far as the Iran issue.
He did away with the Iran deal,
which was suicidal for Israel,
and very destructivefor the United States.
The moving of the embassy to Jerusalem.
He was the first presidentthat said he was gonna do it
and he followed through on it.
More recently, he's announced the closing
of the PLO office in Washington.
Trump is the best president inAmerican history for Israel.
Now, we've had some good ones.
Before the state ofIsrael was reestablished,
George Washington, JohnAdams, Abraham Lincoln,
Harry Truman, these were people
who were believingChristians who recognized
that Israel is important,that Israel is God's country,
and that you have to stand with Israel,
and that it's good forAmerica to stand with Israel.
Trump has surpassed them all.
- Why did you write this book?
- Well, there were two reasons.
One is that people have been asking me,
and I'm an American-Israeli,so I know both sides.
Why do American Jews alwaysvote for the Democrats?
How Israelis can be gung-ho forTrump and how American Jews,
with the exception of theOrthodox Jews in America,
who are big Trump supporters,
do not stand behind this president
when he has done so manygood things for Israel.
Well, you have to look at thehistory of American Jewry.
The American Jewishcommunity came to America
mostly in the early partof the 20th century.
They were very poor.
It took a long time untilthe started to develop,
to prosper, and working long hours.
They abandoned the observanceof the Jewish Sabbath
so that they could work.
Many of them became involved with unions
and so they naturally leantowards the Democratic Party.
In addition, we had the secularization
of the Jewish community.
Today the Jewish community inAmerica is the most secular
of all the religiouscommunities in the country,
and because of that, they'velost their biblical roots.
They're not biblically connected anymore.
Their religion is liberalism.
Unfortunately, what hashappened to the Democrats
in recent years is that they've adopted
the far left extremism,which is anti-Israel.
So if Israel isn't top onyour list of priorities,
then you're gonna go against Israel.
- Israeli Jews, according to the polls,
really like President Trump,
and the American Jews, as we've said,
are not so favorable towards him.
So why the difference?
- I could sum that up in twowords, Jewish identification.
In Israel, we have wall-to-wall,
across the political spectrumsupport for President Trump.
Israelis love President Trump.
They think he's doing a great job.
And this is where itgets really interesting,
because it includes secular Israelis.
Those who lean a little bit to the left
of the political spectrum,they love President Trump also.
They think he's doing agreat job, why is that?
Because they're Jewishly identified.
Like I put my emphasis on yes,the Orthodox Jews in America,
but that's because thoseare mainly the ones
who are Jewishly identified.
So President Trump is onthe right side of history
and the right side of history
is standing with the Jewish people.
- We've talked about all thethings that President Trump
has done that have been good for Israel.
They've actually been alsonot just good for Israel
or the Jewish people, they'reactually good for America.
- It makes sense, by American standards,
and this was one of my main points
in writing Trump and the Jews,
that I want people to understand,
by the facts on the ground,by his accomplishments,
that what he is doing isstrengthening the bond
between Israel and America
in order to help theUnited States of America.
But we know President Trumpis an America-first president.
He's looking first atwhat is good for America.
That's the point.
There is no contradiction between the two.
If that America-Israelconnection ceases to exist,
and that bond ceases to exist,
then it's gonna be bad for America also.
- Okay, David, thank youfor joining us today.