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How This Wellness Crusader Beat Cancer

Chris Wark was diagnosed with Stage 3 colon cancer and refused chemotherapy. Fifteen years later, he is healthy after changing his diet and lifestyle. Read Transcript


- You know, folks, I read alot of books, I really do.

I mean, dozens and dozens of them

and I've got one here that Ithought was just fascinating.

It's called, Chris Beats Cancer.

I think Laurie got hold of itbut Wendy told her about it,

but this guy named Chris Wark,

it's called Chris Beat Cancer.

It's a fascinating book.

He was a 26 year old husband,he was busy flippin' houses,

that was what he did.

He was recording music andhe was touring with a band.

And then two days before Christmas,

it was said that you've gotstage three colon cancer.

Take a look.

- [Announcer] Best-sellingauthor, international speaker

and wellness crusader, Chris Wark

found himself face to face with death.

At 26 years old he was diagnosed

with stage three colon cancer.

Instead of using traditional medicine,

he radically changed his diet.

In his new book, Chris Beat Cancer,

he shares his story ofhealing himself with nutrition

and offers options for others to consider

when facing sickness and disease.

- It's a fascinating story and any of you

who're facing cancer, chemotherapyand all the rest of it,

you really need to read Chris' book.

He's here with us.

Chris, God bless you, good to see you.

- God bless you, Pat.

Good to be with you.

- You were having a prettygood career and all of a sudden

you had the diagnosis that,

well, how did you findout that you had cancer?

- I was having abdominal pain.

Yeah, so it was kind of aweird pain and I ignored it

for most of the year andthen the pain got worse

and I had a colonoscopy andthey found a golf ball-size

tumor in my large intestine,

and so I was like, oh,you've got a problem.

- Yeah, so what happened?

Did they immediately saythis calls for surgery

and they cut something on you?

- Yeah, I mean this is what happens

with most cancer patients.

As soon as the diagnosishappens, I know you've seen this,

they're rushed into treatment.

And so for me they said,we've got to get this thing

out of you before itspreads and kills you.

And so I'm like, okay, right?

So I had the surgery andyou know, a couple things

happened in the hospital whichI thought was so strange.

They served me a Sloppy Joe, right?

- (laughs) That was right after surgery?

- The first meal aftersurgery was a Sloppy Joe

and I remember looking at it goin',

oh, why are they serving thiskind of food to sick people?

And I asked my surgeon theday they told me I could

go home, I said, hey isthere any food I need to eat

or avoid and he said, no,just don't lift anything

heavier than a beer.

- Than a beer?

- Yeah.- Okay.

- That's when I started to realize that

the medical community

is not putting any value on nutrition.

- They don't teach it in medical school,

they really don't.

They hate vitamins, I mean,people come out of medical--

it's like they hate vitamins (laughs).

I've dealt with them, I know how it is.

- Yeah, so I got home fromsurgery and I was recovering

and they told me I needed nineto 12 months of chemotherapy

if I wanted to survive.

And I didn't have a good feeling about it.

I didn't have peace about it.

And so I just prayed and I said, God,

if there's another way show me.

And information came tome, just within days,

about healing with nutritionand I had a huge epiphany

and the epiphany was, the wayyou're living is killing you.

And when I realized that Ialso realized, wait a second,

maybe I can radically transform my life

and help my body heal.

- The pressure to havechemotherapy was overwhelming,

wasn't it?

- It was intense.

Doctors, a lot of family members, my mom.

In the beginning mymom was the only person

that supported me, but mywife came around pretty quick

after that,

but yeah, it was tough, man.

I was talking on theFacebook broadcast about,

it was kind of likestepping out of the boat,

Peter stepping out of the boat, right?

Everybody's in the boatgoing, you're crazy

and Peter's like, well, I don't know.

I gotta do this.

- All right, what did you start doing?

- So the first thing Idid was I stopped eating

the western diet.

I stopped eating all animal products.

I stopped eating fast food,junk food, processed food

and I went back to the Garden of Eden

and started eating fruits and vegetables.

- Fruits and vegetables.

And when you say the western diet,

you're talkin' abouthamburgers and hot dogs

and roast beef.

- Yep.

And all the stuff you get at, you know.

- The western diet is a dietthat's high in animal protein,

it's high in fat, it's highin sugar and salt and oils.

- [Pat] And processed flour, white flour.

- And of course, all the foodadditives and the processing

and fast food and all that.

And so I went to just thepurest, most simple diet

I could, you know, that made sense to me

based on information I had at the time,

which was raw fruits andvegetables straight from the earth.

And I figured, you know what,

if God made it, it'sgood, right and I believe

that He made the earth for us.

- Where do you find it?

Did you go to Whole Foods or something?

- So I live in Memphis, Tennessee.

There was one Whole Foods.

- [Pat] Yeah (laughs).

- This was January 2004.

There was one Whole Foods andyes, they had organic produce

and so that was the only place

I could buy food at that time.

And so I bought a juicer andI just started loading up

on fruits and vegetables.

In my mind I thought, you know what?

I'm gonna overdose on nutrition.

What would happen if I justput in so much good stuff

into my body, more thanit can even, than it needs

and let it do what it needs to do with it.

- And what happened?

- Well, what happened was Istarted to feel very different.

- [Pat] You did?

- Yeah, I mean I started,I got tons more energy.

I started, I mean physically,I just felt so much better

and I also found a nutritionist,

I found an integrativeoncologist who supported me

and we monitored my blood workand had scans along the way,

and I just did everythingI could find and afford

to help myself.

But there's a big thingI want to make sure

I talk about is forgiveness.

- [Pat] Yeah?

- Because there is anemotional component to cancer

and every cancer patient I'vetalked to in the last 15 years

has major emotional issues,and usually it's unforgiveness.

- Actually, you turnyour immune system off

with hatred, don't you?

- Yes.

- [Pat] You turn it off.

- Yeah, hatred, anger,bitterness, resentment, jealousy,

all negative emotions,right, all the emotions

that Jesus basically saysdon't entertain these things,

I mean even the 10 Commandmentstalks about don't envy,

right, all these negativeemotions suppress

your immune system, whenyou harbor unforgiveness,

and so one of the mostpowerful things you can do

for yourself if you wannaprevent cancer or if you need

to heal something.

- Who'd you have to forgive?

- You know, it's funny, Ididn't have a tough childhood.

My parents stayed married,I was never abused.

I didn't have any childhoodtrauma but I was insecure

and judgmental and criticaland I just let a lot

of little stuff build up.

So there was no one personthat I had a big issue with.

But I decided to go throughmy life chronologically

and just, one by one,forgive every person by name

that I could think of,and it's a process, right?

You can't just do a blanket, okay,

I forgive everybody, I'm done.

And I just worked through it prayerfully,

just letting those emotions come up,

letting those memories come up

of people who had insultedme or let me down or whatever

and let them go.- You know there's not

a human being listening tothis program that doesn't have

somebody that hurt 'em.

- We all do.

- Everybody, everybody.

- We all need to do itand it's so powerful

and you know, the crazything is, like, I mean,

Jesus had this huge emphasison forgiveness, right?

I mean, it's part of the Lord's Prayer.

He said if you don't forgiveon earth, your heavenly Father

won't forgive you.

And one of the last thingshe did on the cross.

- [Pat] I forgive them.

- Right?

- Father forgive them, theydon't know what they do.

That's exactly right.

- It was a huge part of hisministry, this thread, right,

this huge theme of hisministry and so when I started

connecting these dots,I was just like, okay,

A, I'm gonna forgiveeveryone who's ever hurt me,

and B, I'm gonna be quick to forgive.

- You know, I ran forpresident of the United States

and you have no idea howmany people were after me,

The Washington Post, for example.

I was a boxer and I wanted toget the publisher in the ring.

I just wanted to punchhis lights out (laughs).

I mean, really.

I had to forgive him, by the way, and them

and it was a whole bunch of'em that I, within myself.

- I cannot even imagineand you know what's funny

is my parents actually supportedyour presidential campaign.

Yeah, I remember that.

- Smart people they are, honestly.

Okay.- Yeah, they were behind you.

- Yeah, well, all right.

What happened to your cancer markers?

- So what we did is we justmonitored my markers over time

and they,

my cancer markers werereally not ever an issue.

So some people, they justdon't show in cancer markers

but I had a chronicallysuppressed immune system

based on my blood work and so it took time

for my white blood cell count to come back

into normal ranges 'causeit was abnormally low.

When you've got a very low,suppressed immune system

your body is vulnerable to cancer.

And so after about a year,it started to come back

and then had another scan around two years

and then I just kept doingwhat I was doing, right,

just kept fruits and vegetables,juicing, just kept putting

the good stuff in,right, forgiving people.

- Any particular kind of vegetable?

- You know, that can heal.- Yeah.

- The most potent anti-cancer vegetables,

garlic, onions and leeks.

- [Pat] Really?

- Oh yeah, they're at the top,and then right below those

are the cruciferous vegetables,broccoli, cauliflower,

kale, cabbage, brussel sprouts.

And it just so happens allthose vegetables I named

are the least consumedvegetables in the U.S.

So we're not eating enoughcancer-fighting foods.

And then, as far as fruits go,

berries are the mostpotent anti-cancer fruits.

Blueberries, blackberries,raspberries, strawberries.

So I hate giant saladsfull of those vegetables,

I made fruit smoothies,fresh fruit smoothies,

I was juicing carrotsevery day, again just--

- What about juice?

I mean, what does juice dofor you that you don't get

from the other?

- So juicing is, you kind oflook at it as medicinal food.

Juicing isn't necessary for health,

but if you're in a healingcrisis what juicing does

is it gives you concentratedamounts of nutrients.

So from carrots, for example,concentrated high amounts

of beta carotene.

- It comes faster into your bloodstream?

- It goes right into your bloodstream.

And for someone who's sick,like if you have cancer,

usually cancer patientshave an energy problem

and very low energy, and sodigesting food requires energy

and when you start juicing

it goes right in your bloodstream,it gives you quick energy

and it delivers all theseanti-cancer nutrients

to your cells.

- What about these scansand the MRIs and all that?

Did you have to have, go through that?

- I had some, but I talkabout this is the book, too,

CT scans, one CT scan is the equivalent

of hundreds of x rays

and so

CT scans and diagnostic scans

can cause cancers later in life

and so you want to bevery wary and mindful

of not getting over-scanned.

So it can be helpful justto see what's going on

but I only had I think four CT scans total

over the course

of several years.- One full body scan

is equivalent to what?

- Oh, hundreds of x raysdepending on the part of the body.

- [Pat] Really?

- Oh yes.

- Do the doctors know that?

- Yes.

- They do know it?

- Yeah.

- Well, you know, the wholething about chemotherapy

is it kills cells andit kills healthy cells

but people who have that

lose their will to fight, don't they?

I mean, they're ennervatedand so listless.

- The treatments are sobrutal and difficult to endure

that many patients whohave a strong will to live

at the beginning,

their determination is eroded

because of the sufferingthrough treatment.

And probably the most scaryand shocking statistic

in all of the whole cancerworld is that the death rate

for all cancers has onlyimproved 5% since the 1950s.

- Why do doctors, you know,I've dealt with so many people

because I deal with the sick and dying,

those who've had chemotherapy

are wasted, they don'thave the will to live,

it's unbelievable and yet everybody thinks

they've got to take chemo.

Why, why don't they havesome other treatment?

- Well that's a long answer

but there's no money in nutrition, right?

There's no money in dietand lifestyle medicine

and there's no money in prevention.

And so our medical industryis driven by profit

and the biggest sourcesof profit are patented

pharmaceutical drugs, chemotherapy drugs,

and really the incentive is very simple.

In order to make billions moredollars, all they have to do

is come up with a new drugthat works a little bit better

than the current drug.

- You said, one doctor saidyou're not of any value

to me, didn't he say that or something?

- He said, yeah, the firstoncologist I saw said,

he was trying to talk me into chemo,

but he said, listen I'm not sayin' this

'cause I need your business.

- Yeah, I don't need your business.

- You know, which is a sales technique,

it's called the push away,

(laughs)and I never

went back to him.

Never went back to him.

- (laughs) Don't need your business?

Because they, do they get acut from these drug companies?

- It's a big business.

The average cancer patientis worth over $300,000

in revenue, that's fromsurgery, hospital visits,

physical therapy, breastreconstruction, on and on,

all of the stuff associated with cancer,

and of course chemotherapy treatments,

and private practice oncologistsmake up to two-thirds

of their income from the markup on chemotherapy drugs.

- So then they get a piece of the action?

- Yeah.

- They do?- Yes.

- That's really a disincentive.

I mean, in certain othercases, if you got a cut of it

you'd be considered a lawbreaker.

- It's the only segmentof the medical industry

where doctors make money offthe drugs they prescribe.

- Chris, that's shocking.

The average person whowatches this program

doesn't believe that.

Say it again.

(laughs) I mean really.

- Private practice oncologistsmake up to two-thirds

of their income fromthe profit on the drugs

they prescribe, off chemo,

I'm talkin' about chemotherapy drugs.

- And so they don't have anyincentive to find an alternate,

I mean they get no moneyoff fruits and vegetables.

- Of course not, yeah.

If they send you home and say,

and they don't have permissionto do that because of the law

as well, right, but if theysaid, let's look at your life.

You need to lose weight.

We need to get you on a healthy diet,

we need to start exercising.

We know all these thingsincrease cancer survival

but they're not allowed to do that.

They have to say, we'regiving you standard of care

which is chemotherapy.

- If you've got insurance,insurance will pay money

for the treatment you were talking about.

They won't pay any money for natural,

holistic treatment at all.

- No, not much.

I mean, not much if any,depending on the policy.

So, I mean, it's not the doctors' fault.

Doctors are good people butthey're trapped in a system

that pays them reallyway despite the results.

- Ladies and gentlemen, ifyou're not shocked at this

you should be.

Chris Beat Cancer.

But to think of peoplewho prescribe chemotherapy

gettin' a cut of thataction, that is horrifying.

It is.

- It's the truth, too.

I wanna share one more resourcefor your audience, too.

I have a free guide onmy site, it's called

20 Questions For Your Oncologist.

It's a free download

and it will empower anyone,if they're a cancer patient

or a caregiver, with theright questions to ask

before they start treatment, right,

so they get the full picturebecause patients only get

15 to 20 minutes with the doctor

before they even start treatment.

I mean, it's not enoughtime, you don't know

what you're getting into,so, at the end of the day

I just wanna help people makethe best decision for them.

- I had a Gleason 7

on a prostate cancer

and I've been throughthe whole nine yards.

I'm healthy because I had some things done

but this chemo is for the pits.

I wouldn't have thought about it.

Chris, it's a great book.

Chris Beat Cancer.

You get the book,

it's available where books are sold.

Very interesting, thank you, sir.

- Thank you, Pat.

- God bless you.- It's a pleasure.

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