Is Impeachment a Real Threat? What Flynn and Manafort Cases Mean for Trump
- Well joining us nowwith more is Tom Fitton
President of Judicial Watch.
Tom thanks for joining us today.
- Hey, you're welcome.
Thank you for having me.
- Well Tom more and moreDemocrats seem to be openly
discussing impeachment evenas several publications
now report that Republicansare growing nervous
that the Russia probe isclosing in on President Trump.
You've been following the case.
Where do you think things stand now?
- Well you should recall that impeachment
is a political process.
So there's really no standardif an unprincipled politician
wants to push for it.
The question is do they have the votes
to impeach the President for what.
I'm not aware of anybasis for impeachment.
Certainly there's nothingthat the President has done
in office that warrants impeachment.
And the worst that theleft can come up with
are these dubious campaignfinance violations
which may or may not be actual violations.
So I think there'll be alot of political discussion
Whether it goes anywhere
I think is more of an open question.
But the President should know
and I'm sure he knowsthis the Mueller operation
wants to see him impeached.
The Democrats wanna see him impeached.
And the question is will they have enough
to give them political cover to do it.
- Tom speaking of Mueller,
former Trump National Security Advisor
General Michael Flynn hasclearly been cooperating
with Special Counsel RobertMueller since pleading guilty
helping provide informationon multiple investigations
we learned last week.
Yet, you believe heshould be pardoned, why?
- 'Cause I don't think he lied.
I think he was unfairly targeted.
He was ambushed using thepretext of the Logan Act
which is a law that'snever been really enforced
in the history of America.
And as a result I thinkhe should be pardoned.
You know for instance, the FBI agents,
according to Comey'sown testimony recently
saw no physical indicationof his lying to them.
And one of the FBIagents who questioned him
was Peter Strzok the infamousanti-Trump text messager.
But they didn't see anyphysical indications he had lied
but according to Comey theyall agreed he had lied.
Well you know how does that work?
So there's enough here to warrant a pardon
given the questions aboutthe initial targeting of him
and whether he did anything wrong or not.
- And do you suspect PresidentTrump might just do that?
- Well I think General Flynn would be high
on the potential pardonlist for President Trump
of all those who've been unfairly targeted
by the Mueller Special Counsel Operation.
- Tom what do you know about William Barr,
Trump's nominee who'snow looking at a possible
second stint as Attorney General?
Do you think he's the right guy
to help turn around theJustice Department's
recent setbacks and problems?
- Well I hope so and thatshould be the expectation
Conservatives shouldbe demanding from Barr
assurances that he'll cleanhouse at the Justice Department.
- Tom, I'd be remiss to ask,
I know you're gonna beon the hill this week.
At least you're scheduledto be on the hill
testifying about the Clinton Foundation.
What will you be sharing?
And what are you hoping willresult from your appearance?
- We'll be talking about Judicial Watch's,
a breakthrough litigation that uncovered
pay to play issues withthe Clinton Foundation
where donors to the Clinton Foundation,
associates to the Clinton Foundation
received special access,favors, and treatment
from the Clinton State Department.
Which may raise questionsabout not only the law
but what exactly Hillary Clinton was up to
while she was at the State Department.
Was it about protectingthe public interest
or her own private interests.
- Tom Fitton with Judicial Watch.
Thank you so much for joining us.