- Welcome to the 700 Club.
An exercise in blatanthypocrisy, you have seen it
before you, hypocrisy.
Do you realize not toolong ago, Chuck Schumer,
and Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton,
and George Bush, and Bill Clinton all were
in favor of bordersecurity and several that
I mentioned voted fora much bigger package
that they're now saying was a manufactured
by Mr Trump.
It is hypocrisy in its most blatant form.
And the bible says, and it's so clear,
a house divided againstitself can't stand.
We cannot have the ideathat we will sacrifice
the security of ourcountry in order to bring
down an enemy politicallyin our government.
And the Democrat's want one thing,
that is to impeachTrump, to destroy Trump,
to frustrate Trump tokeep him from succeeding.
And it was disgusting and our divided
government was on full display last night.
The President said thesituation on our southern
border is a humanitarianand a security crisis.
And then Democrat Pelosi,and Schumer replied
he's "making it all up."
Wendy did you see it?
- I did, unbelievable, Pat.
Meanwhile, it's now day19 of the government
shut down and there's no end in sight.
And for hundreds of thousandsof government workers
that means no paychecks either.
CBN's White House correspondentBen Kennedy has details
from the North Lawn.
- President Trump said thiscould all be worked out
in a 45 minute meeting, hecould have that chance today
sitting down with congressional Democrat's
to try and hash out adeal on what he is calling
a crisis of the heart.
- My fellow American's.
- [Ben] Behind the resolutedesk in the Oval Office,
President Trump took hiscase for a border wall
directly to the American public.
- This is a humanitariancrisis, a crisis of the heart
and a crisis of the soul.
- [Ben] Trump said the southern border
is a pipeline for illegal drugs, gangs,
and human traffickers.
He stopped short in declaringa national emergency,
but demands a $5 billionwall, and additional
funds for more agents,judges, and humanitarian aid.
- Democrat's in Congresshave refused to acknowledge
the crisis, and theyhave refused to provide
our brave border agents with the tools
they desperately needto protect our families
and our nation.
- [Ben] Democrat's pushedback on that claim,
saying a wall is not the answer.
- This President just used the backdrop of
the Oval Office to manufacturea crisis, stoke fear.
- [Ben] The fight is hittinghome for some 800,000
federal employees, eitherfurloughed or working without pay.
- The fact is, PresidentTrump must stop holding
the American people hostage,must stop manufacturing
a crisis and must reopen the government.
- [Ben] Trump said thefederal government remains
shut down for one reason,because Democrat's
won't fund border security.
- To every member of Congress,pass a bill that ends
this crisis, to everycitizen, call Congress and
tell them to finallyafter all of these decades
secure our border.
- Now President Trump willtravel to the border Thursday.
Today lawmakers have beeninvited to the White House
to try and make a deal, fund the wall
and reopen the government.
Ben Kennedy, CBN News, the White House.
- Well David Brody is our CBNNews Chief Political analyst.
And he joins us now from Washington.
David, you had a uniqueexperience, you had that
luncheon with the President,you were sitting next
to him, tell us what happened.
- Right Pat, it was a pretty neat.
Off the record, it was anetwork anchor luncheon,
basically CBN, and CNN,and NBC, ABC, all of them
around the table there inthe Roosevelt room of the
The President there, theVice President there.
It was all before his Oval Office address
basically trying to kindof spin his way through
what he wanted, his messagethat he wanted to get
out to the anchors.
And so it was off therecord, I can't specifically
say what he said, I willjust say it was a very
interesting experienceand what I can tell you
and I did talk to theWhite House about this
this morning, so it's okayto say, but the President
actually, I was sittingnext to the President,
to the left of the President.
George Stefanopolis was to his right,
the President looks over atme right before the luncheon
and says you mind saying a word of prayer?
Will you say a prayer for us?
And of course, I tookthe opportunity to do it
and said it in Jesus name.
- David, it looks like thesupporters of the President
think that the Democrat'sare trying to reuse
the term, if I can say, to roll him
and to force him to makeconcessions that will
be damaging to him politically.
How do you think the thing's shaping up?
- Pat, I think you'reright on the money here.
That's exactly what they're trying to do
and let me take it a step further,
we've heard about theseeight or nine appropriations
bill, the reason I saynine is if you include DHS
and all of that, that'snine appropriations bills.
But the Democrat's keepsaying to Donald Trump,
just look, lets get eightof them at least going,
we'll argue about DHS,the Department of Homeland
Security in the next month or so.
But let's at least geteight signed so we can get
pretty much of all thegovernment back up and running.
And Donald Trump's like noway, I'm not gonna do it,
and the reason is, whenyou talk to folks inside
the White House, they saylook, we lose the leverage
at that point, that's what they're saying.
I mean, why in the world would
they sign eightappropriation bills and then
all you have left is DHS,and then at that point,
there's no guaranteethat Democrat's will come
to the table anyhow causethey're already on record
saying they're not gonnagive one dollar for the wall.
And I think that's partof the problem here.
- Well, is there any common ground?
You know, for example,the DACA of us dreamers,
there should be a deal made on them.
If the Democrat's could givesomething to the President
so he, if they just tryto strip him and make
him look weak, he's not going to give in.
But is there some common ground they could
negotiate on?- Mhm,
it's interesting Pat, you bringing up DACA
because obviously we've heard that before.
And the White House neverrules it out or rules
it in, they're kind ofleaving it a bit on the table,
which suggests to me, itdoesn't take a rocket scientist
to figure out if they'renot ruling it in or out,
then its in play.
And look, if you're theDemocrat's, how in the world
are you not jumping at that opportunity?
You're gonna give Donald Trump some money
for the wall, if you will,in return for codifying
DACA, those dreamers into law?
Something Obama neverdid, he went ahead from
a constitution standpoint,he said he was trying to do
that, from an executive order standpoint,
but he never codified it into law.
So how do you not take thatdeal if your Democrat's?
Having said that, thatcould be one way out.
Pat, I think the way where this is going,
now I've said this fora couple of weeks now,
I think you need towatch those Republican's
in the Senate, are they going to jump ship
and basically turn on this President?
And here's how I see itpotentially going down,
look, the Democrat's in the House have
passed this bill, right?
They're going to pass the bill to open up
the government, in theSenate, McConnell's not gonna
bring it up because obviouslyit's not gonna pass.
But, 47 Democrat's ateventually as this time
goes on, you need 13Republican's for a total of 60
to get the bill passed.
I think eventually you'regoing to see some Republican's
in the Senate come outof the wood work and say
enough already, let's open the government
and that'll be that.
And at that point, Isee Donald Trump vetoing
that bill, and then lettingthe Senate and the House
override that veto to getthe government back open.
And at that point itbecomes a win politically
for Donald Trump, he sayslook, I vetoed the bill
and they overrode myveto, and let Republican's
those establishmentRepublican's that are okay
with no wall funding, letthem live with the political
repercussions of that.
- Do you think, in that little two weeks,
arcane for the average voter to understand
what you just said?
- Maybe, I'm still trying to figure,
no, no I understand it I think.
But look, Donald Trumphas even said that he will
veto any bill that comes to his desk,
and look, he didn't saythat just willy nilly,
the House is controlled by the Democrat's,
he knows, this is kind ofcode for putting pressure
on McConnell and the Senateto say don't even think
about bringing a bill onthe floor that passes what
the Democrat's pass in theHouse, because I'm gonna
We'll see, I thinkeventually look, the question
I thing for both parties iswhat's the off ramp here?
For the Democrat's andfor the Republican's,
and I think the Republican'shave Donald Trump
has given some concessionshere, we've heard
about Mike Pence goingin and talking about look
we'll take $2.5 billion not $5.5 billion,
and so there's been that.
But the Democrat's, they'vegot a left wing progressive
base that will not take yes for an answer
as it relates to wall funding.
- David, you know thiswhole idear of declaring
a national emergency, hedidn't do that last night
but he has absolutelyauthority as Chief Executive
under the constitution todeclare a national emergency
and then use money alreadyappropriated for military
construction, there's at least what is it?
$10 billion or more in that budget that's
already been appropriated he can use?
- Right, it's $10 billion on unused funds
that go to the army corp of engineers.
And by the way that'scivilians, not the military.
Civilians, who couldbuild the wall, that would
be the scenario under thenational emergencies act
that was passed back in1976, so look, the President
can do that if he wants to.
I think he's keeping it in his hip pocket
as a art of the dealstrategy ploy to say look
if you all don't cometo, y'all, listen to me,
all y'all, that's whatthey say in the south,
if you don't come to anagreement, I'll trot this out.
No reason to burr that inthe Oval Office address
on Tuesday night when youcan have that as a leverage
point going forward.
- He can do it, and as I see it David,
there is no court in the country, at least
that's got any responsiblecourt that would
try to challenge him.
The court will notenter into the domain of
the chief executive inrelation to foreign policy
or military policy.
That's a legislative thingand even the Congress
couldn't stop him.
- Well, it's laid out in section 2808,
that he can do this, thequestion then becomes
what is the crisisspecifically, well he'll
talk about bordersecurity and all of that.
But from a legal standpoint,will that hold up in court
cause you know the Democrat'sare gonna challenge it.
And the White House isgoing to have to make that
compelling case not just incourt if it goes that far,
but really to the Americanpeople that this indeed
is a crisis.
And what we saw in that OvalOffice speech last night
was something we reallyhaven't seen before.
For this President toreally concentrate on the
humanitarian side of this and cast
this in moral terms,saying look, it's immoral
of the Congress to do nothing.
And so I thought that was a different tact
that he used finally,
Tuesday night from the Oval Office.
I'll also say this, if younoticed, he left the wall
for the end, he talked aboutborder security and everything
the cameras and this and that.
More agents, and then he said,law enforcement professionals
say we need the wall, henever said I want the wall,
we need the wall, he'ssaying look this is what
the experts are sayingand I thought that would
help him from a publicrelations standpoint
with the American people.
- One last question,there are an estimated
12 million undocumented aliens
in the United States right now.
Now Bill de Blasio, themayor of New York has said
I want to declarehealthcare a right for every
single person in New Yorkwherever they come from.
Now, could Trump justpick up a whole bunch of
those undocumented aliensand bring them into New York
and say okay Bill, here they are?
- Well, leave it to Trump topossibly do that for sure.
Look, I'll be honest with you Pat, I think
he has obviously somebigger problems on his hands
right now, I will say this, Bill de Blasio
is representative ofexactly what the Democrat's
are facing come 2020 in thisbig Presidential campaign
coming up, which is, thisprogressive left wing
I mean, they're out there Pat.
They want what?
Medicare for all, theywant 70% tax rates on once
you hit $10 million.
Look, it's out of control and the question
for Democrat's that running 2020 is
are they for any of this?
And if they are, thatmight be their death note
politically because look,that might appeal for the
23% of the country, butit doesn't appeal to
the majority of American's for sure.
- Right on David, thank you so much.
David Brody, thank you for your insights.
Isn't that interesting?
- So incredible, the dividehas never been bigger
in our country.
- I tell you Trump couldreally stick it to.
He could pick up awhole couple of caravans
of immigrants, and bringthem to Nancy Pelosi's
district in Californiaand say all right, here
they are, boom, and then let them all out
and say all right they're your problem.
Then he could do the same thing and carry
a whole bunch of them acrossthe country to New York
to Chuck Schumer's district and say okay,
here they are, now you pay for them.
It's not my problem anymore, you said that
it's not a crisis, youdetermine what it is.
But I mean, that's probablya little too nasty to do.
But it would be ultimate revenge.