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The 700 Club - April 17, 2013

Mother of the late Whitney Houston shares about her own faith journey and what it was like to lose her daughter. Plus, a young wife's dream to have a baby is squelched by a medical diagnosis of probable infertility. Read Transcript


SHE LOVED TO IS SING.

THAT'S ALL SHE WANTED TO

DO.

Lee: SCOTT ROSS SITS

DOWN FOR AN EXCLUSIVE

INTERVIEW WITH WHITNEY

HOUSTON'S MOTHER.

YOU HOPE THEY MAKE GOOD

DECISIONS.

SOMETIMES THEY DO; SOMETIMES

THEY DON'T.

Lee: HOW SHE TRIED TO

PROTECT HER DAUGHTER.

CHILDREN GET TO A CERTAIN

AGE, AND YOU CAN'T TELL THEM

WHAT TO DO OR WHO TO SEE.

ALL YOU CAN DO IS PRAY.

Lee: DID YOU SEE THAT

COMING?

NO, I DIDN'T.

Pat: WELL, WELCOME,

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, TO

THIS EDITION OF "THE 700

CLUB."

THAT DREADFUL BOMB IN BOSTON

HAS RESULTED IN A NUMBER OF

PEOPLE WITH AMPUTATED

LIMBS.

IT HAS BEEN HORRENDOUS, AND

THEY STILL DON'T KNOW WHO

DID IT.

THE F.B.I. IS IS FINDING OUT

MORE ABOUT THOSE DEADLY

BOMBS, BUT THE MYSTERY

MAINS.

WHO DID IT?

WHY DID THEY DO IT?

Kristi: PAT, THE

GOVERNMENT IS ASKING WITH

INFORMATION ABOUT POSSIBLE

SUSPECTS TO COME FORWARD.

AND PEOPLE IN BOSTON SAY

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LET

THIS ACT OF TERRORISM STOP

THEM FROM MOVING ON.

HERE IS CHARLENE ISRAEL WITH

THE STORY.

Reporter: IT IS A MAJOR

BREAKTHROUGH IN THE

INVESTIGATION OF THE BOSTON

MARATHON EXPLOSIONS.

FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS SAY

THEY'VE RECOVERED THE

PARTIAL REMAINS OF ONE OF

THE BOMBS.

IT APPEARS TO BE A

MEDIUM-SIZED PRESSURE

COOKER, PACKED WITH WIRES, A

CIRCUIT BOARD, NAILS, AND

BAIL BEARINGS.

IT APPEARS THAT THIS

DEVICE MAY HAVE BEEN DROPPED

IN A BACKPACK, EITHER INSIDE

THE TRASH CANS OR RIGHT

OUTSIDE THE TRASH CANS.

Reporter: THE DESIGN

WAS IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZED

BY COUNTER-TERRORISM EXPERTS

AS A TYPE USED BY al-QAEDA

OPERATIVES AROUND THE

WORLD.

INSTRUCTIONS ON MAKING A

PRESSURE COOKER BOMB WERE

INCLUDED IN AN al-QAEDA

MAGAZINE ARTICLE CALLED "HOW

TO MAKE A BOMB IN THE

KITCHEN OF YOUR MOM."

WHILE THE DESIGN IS CLEARLY

al-QAEDA'S, NO INDIVIDUAL

OR GROUP HAS TAKEN

RESPONSIBILITY.

FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS ARE

URGING THE PUBLIC TO COME

FORWARD WITH PICTURES OR ANY

OTHER INFORMATION THAT COULD

LEAD TO AN ARREST.

THE PERSON WHO DID THIS

IS SOMEONE'S FRIEND,

NEIGHBOR, CO-WORKER OR

RELATIVE.

SOMEONE KNOWS WHO DID THIS.

Reporter: AS

AUTHORITIES RACE TO FIND THE

TERRORIST BEFORE HE ESCAPES,

BOSTON REMAINS A CITY IN

PAIN.

BUT DESPITE THIS TIME OF

MOURNING, RESIDENTS SAY

THEY'RE STILL BOSTON

STRONG.

ORGANIZERS HAVE ALREADY

ANNOUNCED THAT NEXT YEAR'S

BOSTON MARATHON WILL GO ON,

AND LOCALS SAY THEY WILL,

TOO.

AS AN AMERICAN, MY HEART

IS BROKEN.

BUT AS A BOSTONIAN, MY

RESOLVE FOR THE PURSUIT OF

FREEDOM AND LIBERTY HAS

NEVER BEEN STRONGER.

WE'RE STRONG PEOPLE, AND

WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET

ANYONE PUSH US AROUND.

YOU MESS WITH ONE OF US, YOU

MESS WITH ALL OF US.

Reporter: CHARLENE

ISRAEL, CBN NEWS.

Pat: THANKS, CHARLENE.

THERE IS AN ARTICLE THAT THE

A.P. PUT OUT ABOUT AMERICA,

THE LAND OF SOFT TARGETS,

AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT

WAY.

WE DON'T WANT WIRES, GUNS,

POLICE EVERYWHERE.

WE JUST DON'T WANT THAT.

WE'RE FREE PEOPLE.

WE WANT TO WALK FREE AND

THINK FREE.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THAT

MEANS WE'RE VULNERABLE TO

THESE CRAZY PEOPLE WHO LIVE

IN A WORLD OF FANATICISM AND

TERROR AND DEATH.

IT IS A RELIGION OF DEATH.

AND THE MAIMING THAT TOOK

PLACE OF PEOPLE FROM THIS

BOMB IS JUST SHOCKING.

YOU THINK HOW MANY PEOPLE,

MAYBE AS MANY AS 13 PEOPLE,

HAVE HAD AMPUTATIONS BECAUSE

OF THE BALL BEARINGS AND

OTHER DEBRIS THAT WAS PUT

INTO THIS BOMB.

IT IS SHOCKING.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO STAY

FREE.

AND MY HATS OFF TO THE

PEOPLE IN BOSTON.

THEY'RE TOUGH.

THEY'RE RESILIENT, AND

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW

ONE OR TWO CRAZY BOMBERS TO

KEEP THEM FROM DOING WHAT

THEY WANT TO DO.

AND SO SOONER OR LATER THAT

PERSON WILL BE FOUND AND

BROUGHT TO JUSTICE.

WE HOPE THEY HURRY IT UP.

WHILE AMERICA IS MOURNING

THE VICTIMS IN BOSTON, GREAT

GREAT BRITAIN IS REMEMBERING

ONE OF ITS GREATEST LEADERS

IN THE FINAL CEREMONY THAT

TOOK PLACE TODAY.

AND, OF COURSE, WITH THE

TIME CHANGE, IT HAS ALREADY

HAPPENED.

LEE WEBB HAS THAT STORY.

Lee: PAT, MARGARET

THATCHER IS BEING LAID TO

REST TODAY, AND WITH FULL

MILITARY HONORS.

WORLD LEADERS AND

DIGNITARIES FROM 170

COUNTRIES ARE ATTENDING THE

FUNERAL AT ST. PAUL'S

CATHEDRAL IN LONDON.

QUEEN ELIZABETH AND HER

HUSBAND ARE AMONG THE

MOURNERS.

THATCHER WAS NICKNAMED THE

IRON LADY.

HER CHRISTIAN BACKGROUND WAS

LEFT HAND TO HER STRONG

CONVICTION FOR LESS

GOVERNMENT, LOWER TAXES,

MORE FREEDOM, AND GREATER

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

SHE ONCE WROTE, "I BELIEVE

IN WHAT ARE OFTEN REFERRED

TO AS JUDEO CHRISTIAN

VALUES.

INDEED, MY WHOLE POLITICAL

PHILOSOPHY IS BASED ON

THEM."

CLIMATE SCIENTISTS ARE

TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY THE

EARTH IS IS NOT GETTING

WARMER.

MOST MODELS DID NOT PREDICT

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.

THE RISE IN TEMPERATURE

SLOWED DOWN AROUND THE YEAR

2000.

SOME EXPERTS SAY THEIR TRUST

IN CLIMATE SCIENCE HAS GONE

DOWN BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE

UNCERTAINTIES.

THE SENATE PUSHED FOR MU GUN

CONTROL MEASURES IS IN DEEP

TROUBLE NOW.

A GROWING NUMBER OF

REPUBLICANS OPPOSE A PLAN TO

EXPAND BACKGROUND CHECKS.

AND THERE MAY NOT BE ENOUGH

VOTES TO SUPPORT THE BILL.

IN JANUARY, 58% SUPPORTED

THE MOVE IN THE WAKE OF THE

ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SHOOTING

INUIIN NEW TOWN,

CONNECTICUT.

AND NOW JUST OVER 49% FAVOR

THEM.

PAT?

Pat: LEE, I'M

APPALLED.

WE'VE GOT AN ECONOMY THAT IS

IN SERIOUS, SERIOUS

TROUBLE.

WE'VE GOT A BUDGET THAT IS

OUT OF CONTROL, AND WE HAVE

THIS HUGE DEBT, AND WE HAVE

A CRIES IN SOCIAL SECURITY

AND IN HEALTH CARE, ETC.,

AND YOU ASK YOURSELF WHY ARE

THEY SPENDING WEEKS AND

WEEKS AND MONTHS ON GUN

CONTROL?

WHAT IS IT?

THIS IS PART OF THE AGENDA

OF THE LEFT.

THEY'RE ALL COOKED UP ON

CLIMATE CHANGE, AND ALL OF A

SUDDEN ALL OF THAT SCIENCE

HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE A BIT

ERRONEOUS, SO THEY HAVE TO

GET TO THAT.

BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT OF

WORK AND THEY'RE SUFFERING.

LEAR NORTH KOREA IS

DEMANDING AN APOLOGY FROM

SOUTH KOREA FOR WHAT IT

CALLS "HOSTILE ACTS."

AND IT IS THREATENING TO

TAKE ACTION AGAINST THAT

COUNTRY AT ANY TIME.

BUT THE THREATS HAVE DONE

LITTLE TO SHAKE THE RESOLVE

OF SOUTH KOREANS.

GEORGE THOMAS HAS THAT STORY

FROM SEOUL.

Reporter: THIS NEW

VIDEO RELEASED BY A

PRO-NORTH KOREAN GROUP

SHOWED WHAT LOOKED LIKE THE

WHITE HOUSE UNDER ATTACK.

Reporter: THE NEWS

IMAGES HAVE GRIPPED OUR

TELEVISION SCREENS FOR

WEEKS.

NORTH KOREANS ON THEIR MARCH

TO WAR AGAINST AMERICA,

SOUTH KOREA, AND JAPAN, WITH

THREATS OF NUCLEAR

DESTRUCTION.

BUT SPEND AN AFTERNOON LIKE

I DID IN UNGDONG, THE BUSY

SHOPPING CENTER IN THE HEART

OF SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA, AND

YOU GET THE FEELING THAT THE

WEST IS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT

NORTH KOREA THAN MOST

KOREANS.

AFTER SO MANY YEARS OF

LIVING WITH THEIR

UNPREDICTABLE NEIGHBOR,

SOUTH KOREANS ARE

INDIFFERENT TO THE SO-CALLED

CRISIS ON THE NORTH KOREAN

PENINSULA.

THEY HAVE LIVED WITH IT, AND

THEY'RE USED TO IT.

SO HERE YOU, A REGULAR,

NORMAL DAY ON THE STREETS OF

SEOUL.

THE SHOPS ARE FULL, AND THE

STREETS ARE PACKED WITH

PEOPLE SPRING SHOPPING, AND

THE TRAFFIC IN SEOUL IS

STILL A NIGHTMARE.

Translator: WE'VE HEARD

THE NORTH KOREAN RHETORIC

FOR YEARS.

LAST YEAR, AND THE YEAR

BEFORE, AND THE YEAR

BEFORE.

Reporter: IT'S ALL TOO

FAMILIAR DRUM BEAT TO THE

YOUNG AND OLD.

WE CALL IT POLITICAL

BLACKMAIL.

THE NORTH KOREANS THREATEN

WAR, AND EVENTUALLY THE

NORTH AND THE WEST WILL GIVE

INTO MORE OIL AND MORE FOOD

FOR THEM.

Reporter: BUT FIRST

RESPONDERS HAVE AN

ANTITERROR DRILL AT A SUBWAY

STATION IN SEOUL THIS WEEK.

THE EXERCISE SIMULATED A

BOMB ATTACK BY NORTH KOREA.

OUR MILITARY IS SLOWLY

MONITORING NORTH KOREAN

MILITARY MOVEMENT AND ARE

READY TO ACT.

IF NORTH KOREA TAKES ANY

KIND OF SELF-JUSTIFIED

ACTION AGAINST SOUTH KOREA,

WITH WILL QUICKLY AND FIRMLY

PUNISH THEM.

Reporter: SOME WORRY

THAT TIRADES AGAINST SOUTH

KOREA AND THE U.S. HAVE BEEN

PARTICULARLY SHRILL THIS

YEAR.

AND UNLIKE IN PAST

STANDOFFS, EXPERTS WORRY THE

NORTH IS CLOSER TO A NUCLEAR

WEAPON AND A LONG-RANGE

NUCLEAR CAPABILITY.

WE HAVE BECOME NUMB TO

THE THREATS, AND THAT IS NOT

GOOD.

THIS TIME IS ALSO DIFFERENT

BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH

NEW LEADERSHIP IN NORTH

KOREA, AND THAT SHOULD

CONCERN US.

Reporter: SOUTH KOREANS

ARE CLEARLY NOT OBIUS

OBLIVIOUS TO WHAT IS GOING

ON, BUT FOR NOW, LIFE GOES

ON.

GEORGE THOMAS, CBN NEWS,

SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA.

Lee: PAT, THE SOUTH

KOREANS HAVE LIVED WITH THAT

THREAT EVERY DAY.

Pat: IT IS SO CLOSE.

YOU KNOW, THE D.M.Z. IS

RIGHT THERE NEXT TO SEOUL.

SEOUL IS A HUGE CITY, AND IT

IS RIGHT ON THE BORDER.

OF COURSE, WITHIN ANY KIND

OF RANGE OF ANY SORT OF

WEAPON.

BUT THE NORTH COULD DO GREAT

DAMAGE TO THAT CITY.

THEY COULD KILL, YOU KNOW, A

MILLION OR MORE PEOPLE

WITHOUT TOO MUCH TROUBLE.

THERE WOULD BE RETALIATION.

I THINK THE NORTH MIGHT BE

COMPLETELY ANAL

ANNILHILATED, BUT

NEVERTHELESS.

THE PEOPLE IN NORTH KOREA

WANT TO FLEE THAT OPPRESSIVE

REGIME AS FAST AS THEY CAN.

WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING IS

SNEAKING ACROSS THE BORDER

INTO CHINA, BUT THE CHINESE

HAVE BEEN REPATRIATING THEM

BACK INTO NORTH KOREA, WHICH

MEANS, OF COURSE, THEY'LL BE

EXECUTED.

BUT IF THE SOUTH WOULD HAVE

A POLICY OF OPENING THEIR

BORDER, AND RECEIVING PEOPLE

FROM THE NORTH, WHICH THEY

PROBABLY SAY, WELL, THIS

WOULD GIVE US A LOT OF

SABOTAGERS AND UNDESIRABLES,

BUT, NEVERTHELESS, THEY ARE

OF THE SAME BASIC RACE.

THEY USED TO BE ONE PEOPLE.

IF THEY COULD DO THAT, NORTH

KOREA WOULD COLLAPSE BECAUSE

THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY

PEOPLE.

AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE

TO HAVE SOME KIND OF AN

ECONOMY.

AND IF THE PEOPLE ALL LEAVE,

THEN THERE WOULDN'T BE

ANYTHING.

AND THERE WOULD BE A MASS

MIGRATION OF NORTH KOREANS

INTO SOUTH KOREA, IF THE

SOUTH WOULD OPEN ITS

BORDERS.

OF COURSE, THE NORTH MIGHT

RETALIATE, AND SAY THIS IS A

PROVOCATIVE ACT, AND WE

THEREFORE CONSIDER IT AN ACT

OF WAR.

THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF

PREMETATIONS, BUT I THINK IT

WOULD BE A GOOD ONE TO SORT

OF TAKE THE LID OFF THAT

PRESSURE COOKER, AND WATCH

WHAT HAPPENS.

BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE A

RAPID DESTRUCTION OF THE

ENTIRE NORTH KOREAN

INFRASTRUCTURE.

Lee: GEORGE BEVERLY

SHAY, WHO WAS PART OF SO

MANY BILLY GRAHAM CRUSADES,

HAS DIED.

SHAY SANG FOR 250 MILLION

PEOPLE.

AND HE SANG A PEACEFUL HYMN

BEFORE BILLY SPOKE BECAUSE

HE SAID, QUOTE,"BILLY LOVES

THE QUIET BEFORE HE SPEAKS

"ISSUES" HE BECAME AN ICONIC

MEMBER OF THE GROUP THAT

TOOK THE GOSPEL AROUND THE

WORLD.

SHAY WAS ONE OF THE MOST

HUMBLE, GRACIOUS MEN I HAVE

EVER KNOWN.

I LOVED HIM AS A BROTHER.

GEORGE BEVERLY SHAY WON A

GRAMMY AWARD IN 1965.

HE WAS NOMINATED 10 TIMES.

GEORGE BEVERLY SHAY WAS 104

YEARS OLD.

PAT?

Pat: HEY, WE'RE ALL

HEADING FOR THE BIG ONE, THE

BIG 1-0-0.

I WAS DOWN AT BILLY GRAHAM'S

90th BIRTHDAY PARTY, AND

GEORGE BEVERLY SHAY WAS

THERE LOOKING WONDERFUL.

SUCH A HUMBLE MAN, AND JUST

SO GRACIOUS.

BUT HE WAS KNOWN FOR THAT

SONG HE SANG, "HOW GREAT

THOU ART."

Kristi: THAT WAS MY

GRANDFATHER'S FAVORITE

SONG.

104, THERE YOU GO, PAT.

Pat: WE'RE ON THE WAY.

HE WAS JUST AN AMAZING GUY.

I THINK WE SHOULD ALL LEARN

FROM GEORGE BEVERLY.

HE WAS SO CALM.

HE DIDN'T ALLOW HIMSELF TO

GET MAD AT ANYBODY.

HE WAS ALWAYS VERY HUMBLE

AND VERY GRACIOUS, AND HAD

HIMSELF UNDER CONTROL.

AND SO HE DIDN'T RACE HIS

ENGINES.

HE JUST LIVED HIS LIFE AND

HE WANTED TO BRING BLESSING

TO OTHER PEOPLE.

HE IS ONE OF THE GREAT

SAINTS, AND THE ANGELS OF

HEAVEN ARE REJOICING AS HE

COMES TO TAKE AN HONORED

PLACE IN GOD'S HEAVENLY

KINGDOMMEN KINGDOM.

LEE?

Lee: WE'RE SAD TO

REPORT THE PASSING OF A

BROADCASTING LEGEND.

PAT SUMMERALL DIED AT THE

AGE OF 82.

HE PLAYED FOR THE GIANTS'

TEAMS BACK IN THE '50s,

AND EARLY '60s, BUT HE

CALLED SOME OF THE MOST

MEMORABLE MOMENTS IN

SPORTS.

ALWAYS IN AN UNDERSTATED

FASHION, LETTING THE ACTION

TELL THE STORY.

HIS CALM, ON-AIR DEMEANOR

HID THE DEMONS OF ALCOHOL.

HE SPOKE OF THE LIVER

TRANSPLANT THAT SAVED HIS

LIFE.

THERE WERE TWO FRIENDS OF

MINE STANDING AT THE FOOT OF

THE BED, AFTER IT LOOKED

LIKE THE OPERATION WAS GOING

TO BE A SUCCESS.

THEY WERE TWO PASTOR

FRIENDS, AND I ASKED THEM,

WHY DID I GET ANOTHER

CHANCE?

WHY DID I DESERVE ANOTHER

LIVER?

AND THEY SAID, AS IF THEY

PRACTICED THE ANSWER, AND

THEY SAID "BECAUSE GOD IS

NOT THROUGH WITH YOU YET."

Lee: ON A PERSONAL

NOTE, PAT SUMMERALL WAS A

BIG INSPIRATION FOR ME

GETTING INTO THIS BUSINESS.

PAT, I ADMIRED HIM GREATLY.

I REMEMBER AS A LITTLE

BOY -- I'M OLD ENOUGH TO

REMEMBER WHEN HE PLAYED FOR

THE NEW YORK GIANTS, BUT I

ALSO REMEMBERED WHEN HE

FIRST BROKE INTO

BROADCASTING.

MY BROTHER AND I WOULD SIT

IN FRONT OF THE TELEVISION

SET, WITH A TAPE REPORTER,

AND PRETEND LIKE WE WERE PAT

SUMMERALL, RECORDING THOSE

MOVES.

Pat: YOU LEARNED SOME

GOOD MOVES.

HE WAS A GREAT MAN, BUT,

UNFORTUNATELY, ALCOHOL

SLOWED HIM DOWN A BIT AND HE

HAD A LIVER TRANSPLANT.

BUT HE WILL BE MISSED.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS,

PEOPLE -- THEY DO DIE.

WE ARE CALLED MORTAL, AND

MORT IS THE WORD FOR DEATH,

AND WE'RE ALL SUBJECT TO

DEATH.

BUT WE'RE SADDENED WITH

PEOPLE LIKE MARGARET

THATCHER PASS ON, GEORGE

BEVERLY SHAY, AND PAT

SUMMERALL.

PEOPLE ARE LIVING LONGER,

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEY

BEGIN TO DIE, AND IT SADDENS

US.

Kristi: OUR STORY

COMING UP IS ABOUT WHITNEY

HOUSTON, WHO, OF COURSE,

PASSED ON LAST YEAR.

A PERSON MANY OF US HAVE NOT

HEARD VERY MUCH FROM IS HER

MOTHER, CISSY HOUSTON.

WHAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IS

THAT FOR YEARS, CISSY

HOUSTON TRIED TO PROTECT HER

DAUGHTER, WHITNEY, FROM THE

MUSIC INDUSTRY, BUT SHE JUST

COULDN'T DO IT FOR EVER.

Reporter: EVERYONE

WANTED TO SIGN HER UP?

UH-HUH.

Reporter: WHAT DID YOU

DO WITH THAT?

I DIDN'T.

SHE WAS TOO YOUNG.

SHE DIDN'T SIGN UNTIL SHE

WAS 18 OR 19.

Reporter: WHITNEY

HOUSTON'S MOTHER SHARES HOW

SHE COPED WITH HER

DAUGHTER'S DEATH.

FIRST, IT IS THE SLOGAN

STAMPED ON T-SHIRT AND

BUMPER STICKERS,

"CO-EXIST."

BUT THE ONE IS EASIER SAID

THAN DONE.

FIND OUT WHAT WHEN WE

RETURN.

Pat: WE HEAR A LOT

TODAY ABOUT TOLERANCE AND

PEACEFUL CO-EXISTENCE AMONG

RELIGIONS AND CULTURES.

ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE

IN ALL OF THAT IS CONSIDERED

A BIGOT.

IT SOUNDS GOOD, BUT IS IT

REALLY POSSIBLE.

ONE PERSON SAYS, NO, WE

CAN'T.

Reporter: THERE IS A

POPULAR SI SYMBOL ON BUMMER

STICKERS AND T-SHIRTS THAT

SPELLS OUT THE WORD

"CO-EXIST."

IT'S PURPOSE IS TO PROMOTE

TOLERANCE AND PEACEFUL

CO-EXISTENCE, BUT THE

AUTHOR, ROBERT, SAYS THE

REALITY IS THAT CO-EXISTENCE

IS A MYTH, INSTEAD A WAR FOR

WORLD DOMINATION IS RAGING.

IN HIS BOOK "NO, WE CAN'T,"

RADICAL ISLAM, MILITANT

SECULARTISM, AND HE EXPLAINS

WHY THESE WORLD VIEWS WILL

LEAD TO A TIPPING POINT IN

CULTURE, WITH POTENTIALLY

DEVASTATING CONSEQUENCES.

Pat: ROBERT STERNS IS

FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE

DIRECTOR OF SOMETHING CALLED

"EAGLE'S WINGS."

AND, ROBERT, YOU'VE WRITTEN

A BOOK CALLED "NO, WE

CAN'T."

THANKS FOR BEING WITH US.

GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR.

GREAT TO BE HERE.

Pat: WHAT'S THE DEAL ON

THIS?

WHAT'S THE DEAL?

I THINK -- WAS IT WINSTON

CHURCHILL WHO SAYS AN

APPEASER IS ONE WHO FEEDS AN

ALLIGATOR, HOPING THAT THE

ALLIGATOR IS GOING TO EAT

HIM LAST, RIGHT?

WE'RE INDOCTRINATED SO MUCH

TODAY IN THIS KIND OF EPCOT

CENTER VIEW OF THE WORLD.

WE ALL SHOULD JUST BE

GETTING ALONG AND ALL

CULTURES CAN CO-EXIST, BUT

WE'RE LIVING IN THE MIDST OF

A CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS AND

A CLASH OF CULTURES, AND

THOSE OF US IN THE WEST HAVE

GOT TO WAKE UP TO THAT

REALITY.

Pat: I WAS LISTENING TO

AHMADINEJAD, WHO WANTS TO GO

TO A CHRISTIAN COLLEGE, AND

HE HAS CHOSEN REGENT

UNIVERSITY.

AND HE WOULD COME AND GIVE A

LECTURE.

I BELIEVE HE IS SO AFFIXED

WITH THE CONCEPT OF THE MODI

COMING AND DESTRUCTION, HE

IS NOT ABOUT TO GIVE UP ALL

OF THESE THINGS, AND THE

NUCLEAR AMBITIONS.

IS THIS E INGRAINED IN SOME

MUSLIMS, THEY BELIEVE THEY

HAVE TO DESTROY THE JEWS OR

FIGHT AMERICA?

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE

MUSLIM WORLD, WE UNDERSTAND

THAT PORTIONS OF THE MUSLIM

WORLD WHO ARE MORE MODERN

AND MORE MODERATE ARE

SUFFERING HORRIBLY UNDER AN

EXTREMIST VERSION OF ISLAM,

THAT WANTS TO SEE THE

IMPOSITION OF SHARI'A LAW.

WE LOOK AT THE GENOCIDE THAT

IS HAPPENING IN SYRIA WITHIN

THE MUSLIM WORLD.

AND SO THERE IS A GREAT

CONFLICT GOING ON RIGHT NOW

WITHIN ISLAM GLOBALLY.

AND THERE IS A VERY REAL

EXTREMIST BRANCH THAT IS

SEEKING THE IMPOSITION OF

SHARI'A LAW, NOT ONLY WITHIN

MUSLIM SOCIETY, BUT WITHIN

THE BROADER WORLD AT LARGE.

Pat: DO YOU SUPPOSE --

BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW YET --

DO YOU SUPPOSE SOME MUSLIM

WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT

BOMB IN BOSTON?

WE CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW

YET.

BUT WHOEVER WAS RESPONSIBLE,

IT WAS A HEINOUS CRIME, AND

I THINK IT IS A WAKEUP CALL

TO ALL OF US.

PAT, WHEN THAT HAPPENED, I

THOUGHT TO MYSELF, WE KNOW A

LITTLE BIT MORE HOW ISRAEL

FEELS.

ISRAEL HAS LIVED WITH THIS

VULNERABILITY OF CONSTANT

TERRORISM ON PUBLIC BUSES,

IN PUBLIC PLACES, IN AN

ONGOING NATION, IN A TINY

NATION SMALLER THAN THE SIZE

OF NEW JERSEY.

A COMPACT LITTLE COUNTRY.

IT GUF GIVES US A NEW

PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT IT IS

LIKE TO LIVE IN ISRAEL.

Pat: I LIVED IN A HOTEL

CALLED THE WEST BANK, AND

THEY SHOWED THE DEVASTATION

WHERE A SUICIDE BOMBER --

THIS WAS A YOUNG MUSLIM WHO

HAD A BOMB STRAPPED TO HIS

CHEST, AND HE BLEW HIMSELF

UP IN THE LOBBY OF THIS

HOTEL.

PAT, I THINK BACK 20, 30

YEARS AGO, WE DIDN'T EVEN

KNOW THE CONCEPT OF A

SUICIDE BOMBER.

THAT WASN'T EVEN A PART OF

OUR VOCABULARY, AND NOW

VIRTUALLY EVERY WEEK YOU

HEAR OF SOME KIND OF SUICIDE

BOMBING HAPPENING AROUND THE

WORLD.

THIS IS THE KIND OF BLIND

DEVOTION THAT THIS

PARTICULAR EXTREMIST VERSION

OF ISLAM, WHICH SADLY IS

WELL-FUNDED AND IS GROWING,

AND IS APPEALING TO A

YOUNGER GROUP OF MUSLIMS --

THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO BE

AWAKENED TO.

AND BELIEVE, ALSO, THAT WE

HAVE TO HELP THE MODERATE

MUSLIM WORLD DEAL WITH THIS

AS WE SEE PEOPLE FLEEING

IRAN, FLEEING SYRIA, BECAUSE

OF WHERE THESE SOCIETIES ARE

COMING TO.

Pat: YOU'RE BOOK -- IT

ALSO TALKED ABOUT MILITARY

SECULARISM.

TALK ABOUT THAT.

I THINK OF IT THIS WAY,

PAT, A MILITANT SECULARIST

WANTS TO LIVE WITH THE IDEA

THAT ALL CULTURES ARE

EQUAL.

THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

CULTURES HAVE STRENGTHS AND

WEAKNESSES, AND HAVE TO BE

BASED ON HOW THEY TREAT

THEIR WEAKEST CITIZENS IN

THEIR MIDST, THE MOST

MARGINALIZED CITIZENS.

WHEN THE JUDEO ASPECTS

REMOVED, THEY ARE VULNERABLE

TO THE CONCEPT OF ANY KIND

OF RADICAL IDEOLOGY, AND

EUROPE IS HAVING TO DEAL

WITH THAT RIGHT NOW.

Pat: THERE WAS A BIG

BROUHAHA IN SOUTH CAROLINA,

WHERE A REPUBLICAN OFFICE

WAS SAYING THAT JUDEO

CHRISTIAN CIVILIZATION IS

SUPERIOR, AND WE ARE

SUPERIOR TO SOME OF THE LESS

ADVANCED CIVILIZATIONS.

AND THEY WERE CONDEMNED AS

BEING RACISTS, BIGOTS, AND

SO FORTH.

UH-HUH.

WHEN WE LOOK AT SOCIETIES

WHERE MINORITIES ARE

PROTECTED AND FREEDOM OF

RELIGION IS KEPT, LOOK AT

THE STATUS OF WOMEN'S RIGHTS

IN THE RADICAL MUSLIM

WORLD.

LOOK AT THE STATUS OF

RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.

LOOK AT THE STATUS OF OTHER

SOCIAL MINORITIES IN THE

ISLAM WORLD?

TREATED TERRIBLY.

IN THE CHRISTIAN WORLD,

THERE IS A DEBATE ABOUT

THESE THINGS.

Pat: WHAT CAN WE DO

ABOUT THIS?

THERE IS A THRUST FROM THE

INTELIDENGIA, TO HAVE A

HARMONY.

THEY SHOULD GET TOGETHER AND

MAKE PEACE, NOT WAR.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IT

IS IMPOSSIBLE -- WHAT IS

IT?

OBVIOUSLY, AS CHRISTIANS,

WE ALWAYS WANT TO LOOK FOR

PEACE WHERE IT IS POSSIBLE.

BUT PART OF PEACE, IS PEACE

HAS TO BE BUILT ON TRUTH.

WE HAVE TO COME TOGETHER IN

HONEST, TRUTHFUL DIALOGUE,

AND NOT FOR THE SAKE OF

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, MASK

THE REALITIES OF WHAT WE'RE

DEALING WITH.

I BELIEVE IT IS A TIME FOR

THE CHURCH IN THE WEST TO

AN AWAKEN IN PRAYER, AND

AWAKE CAN IN IN ACTIVISM

AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS

HAPPENING IN OUR WORLD.

Pat: WHERE IS THIS BOOK

SOLD?

ANYWHERE BOOKS ARE SOLD.

THEY CAN GO TO THE CBN

WEBSITE AND OUR LINK IS

THERE.

Pat: "NO WE CAN'T,

RADICAL ISLAM."

THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.

THANK YOU.

Pat: KRISTI, WHAT IS

NEXT?

LAST YEAR THE MUSIC WORLD

WAS STUNNED WHEN IT LEARNED

ABOUT THE DEATH OF WHITNEY

HOUSTON, AND SO WAS

WHITNEY'S MOTHER.

Reporter: WHITNEY'S

DEATH, DID YOU SEE THAT

COMING?

NO, I DIDN'T.

Reporter: YOU HAD NO

IDEA IT WAS THAT BAD?

NO.

Kristi: OUR EXCLUSIVE

INTERVIEW WITH CISSY HOUSTON

IS UP NEXT.

SO DON'T GO AWAY.

Pat: ONE OF THE

TRAGEDIES IN THE DRUG SCENE

AND THE MUSIC SCENE IS TO

SEE A BEAUTIFUL PERFORMER --

WHITNEY HOUSTON HAD AN

ABSOLUTELY MAGNIFICENT

VOICE.

I MEAN, SHE WAS GORGEOUS AND

SANG LIKE AN ANGEL.

BUT SHE IS THE ONLY ARTIST

TO HAVE SEVEN NUMBER ONE

HITS.

SHE OWNED SIX GRAMMYS, TWO

EMMYS, AND MORE THAN 400

OTHER AWARDS.

AND THEN SHE WAS GONE.

DIED.

AFTER A LONG AND HIGHLY

PUBLICIZED BATTLE WITH

DRUGS.

RECENTLY HER MOTHER, CISSY,

SAT DOWN WITH SCOTT ROSS.

CISSY HAS BEEN A HARD ONE TO

INTERVIEW, BUT OUR SCOTT

ROSS WAS ABLE TO PRIZE FORTH

FROM CISSY SOME VERY

IMPORTANT INFORMATION.

* HE'S THE ONLY FRIEND I

KNOW *

Reporter: TWO-TIME

GRAMMY-WINNER CISSY HOUSTON

IS A GOSPEL MUSIC GREAT.

* HE HAS BEEN MY DWELLING

PLACE *

* ON THIS, I REST MY CASE

Reporter: SHE IS NOW,

PERHAPS, BEST KNOWN AS THE

MOTHER OF DECEASED SUPERSTAR

WHITNEY HOUSTON.

WHITNEY'S DEATH, DID YOU SEE

THAT COMING?

NO, I DIDN'T.

Reporter: YOU HAD NO

IDEA IT WAS THAT BAD?

NO.

Reporter: ON THE EVE OF

THE GRAMMY AWARDS IN 2012,

WHITNEY'S ASSISTANT FOUND

HER SUBMERGED IN THE BATH OF

HER SUITE AT THE BEVERLY

HILTON.

WHITNEY WAS 48.

LATER THE CORONER RULED HER

DEATH AN ACCIDENTAL DROWNING

DUE TO HEART DISEASE AND

COCAINE USE.

THE SINGER'S LONG-TIME

BATTLE WITH ADDICTION WAS

WELL-PUBLICIZED.

WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE TO

ME --

I CAN'T GO THROUGH THAT.

NO, I CAN'T.

Reporter: WHEN THIS

HAPPENED, DID YOU QUESTION

GOD?

DID YOU GET ANGRY WITH GOD?

NO, I DID NOT.

I NEVER QUESTIONED HIM ABOUT

IT.

BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S HIS

BUSINESS.

AND I HAVE NOTHING TO DO

WITH IT.

Reporter: HE IS

SOVEREIGN?

UH-HUH.

YOUNG PEOPLE ARE SO

DIFFERENT TODAY.

THEY DON'T BELIEVE

ANYTHING.

EVERYBODY THINKS, WELL, NOT

ME.

SHE DID DRUGS, LIKE

EVERYBODY ELSE IN THIS

BUSINESS DO.

AND IT'S AWFUL.

BUT YOU HOPE THAT THEY'LL

MAKE GOOD DECISIONS.

SOMETIMES THEY DO; SOMETIMES

THEY DON'T.

CHILDREN GET TO A CERTAIN

AGE, AND YOU CAN'T TELL THEM

WHAT TO DO OR WHO TO SEE.

ALL YOU CAN DO IS PRAY.

BUT IT WASN'T LIKE THAT WHEN

I WAS YOUNG.

IT WAS A DIFFERENT TIME.

A DIFFERENT ERA.

Reporter: CISSY, A

MINISTER OF MUSIC, AND

REKNOWED GOSPEL ARTIST ALSO

MADE CULTURAL HISTORY IN

1951, BUT BACK UP JACKSON'S

GROUND-BREAKING PERFORMANCE

AT CARNEGIE HALL.

WHEN YOU EVOLVED INTO GOSPEL

MUSIC, HOW DID THAT COME

ABOUT?

I STARTED WITH GOSPEL.

I DIDN'T EVOLVE.

IT HAS BEEN MY LIFE SINCE I

WAS FIVE YEARS OLD.

I FOUND CHRIST WHEN I WAS 14

YEARS OLD.

Reporter: WHOA.

I WAS IN CHURCH, AT A

REVIVAL.

WE HAD A VISITING MINISTER,

WE WERE AFRICAN-AMERICAN

EPISCOPAL.

THEY HAVE PEOPLE WHO COME IN

AT DIFFERENT TIMES, YOU

KNOW, AND DO REVIVALS AND

WHATNOT.

AND THIS GUY'S NAME WAS

REVEREND ODEM, AND HE WAS

POWERFUL.

IT HIT ME, AND I HAVEN'T

BEEN THE SAME EVER SINCE.

I KNEW WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO

SERVE GOD, BUT TO REALLY

FEEL IT LIKE I FELT IT THEN,

I HAD NOT FELT THAT.

BUT THE POWER OF HIM ALWAYS

TRAVELS WITH ME, ALWAYS.

Reporter: HOW DID IT

GET FROM CHURCH INTO

RECORDING IN THE MUSIC

WORLD?

WELL, RCA HEARD IT, AND

THEY WANTED TO RECORD US,

AND THEY DID.

Reporter: BUT HE WAS

ONLY ONE OF A NUMBER OF

PEOPLE THAT YOU RECORDED

WITH THAT WERE WELL-KNOWN

SINGERS.

ARETHA, RIGHT?

ARETHA.

Reporter: DUSTY

SPRINGFIELD?

UH-HUH.

Reporter: LUTHER VAN

VANDROS?

UH-HUH.

Reporter: YOU DON'T

HAVE TO TELL ME, BUT I HEARD

A STORY THAT ELVIS HAD A

CRUSH ON YOU.

I THINK THAT'S A STORY.

Reporter: SINGING WITH

PEOPLE LIKE THAT, HOW DID

THAT AFFECT YOUR LIFE?

HOW DID IT AFFECT YOUR

THINKING?

YOU DO WHAT YOU DO TO

MAKE A LIVING.

SO I GOT INTO THE BUSINESS

OF SINGING WHATEVER.

WE SANG FOR EVERYBODY.

WE BACKGROUND EVERYONE.

MOST OF IT IS BUSINESS.

WILSON PICKETT, ALL OF THOSE

PEOPLE.

WHAT I REALLY LIKE TO DO IS

GOSPEL AND ALL OF THE REST

OF IT, YOU KNOW.

Reporter: YOU CREATED A

UNIQUE BACKGROUND SOUND.

IT WAS VERY REVOLUTIONARY

FOR THE TIME, RIGHT?

UH-HUH.

Reporter: WHAT WAS

THAT?

ADDING FOUR VOICES,

RATHER THAN THREE.

Reporter: THERE WAS A

WAY YOU WOULD SYNC UP WITH

THE LEAD SINGER AND

EMPHASIZE DIFFERENT PARTS OF

THE MUSIC THAT BROUGHT

SOMETHING ELSE TO IT THAT NO

ONE ELSE COULD DO.

WELL, THEY COULD DO IT,

BUT NOBODY DID IT.

I DID IT -- YOU KNOW, CHURCH

MAKES YOU DO THAT.

YOU GO IN ALL KINDS OF WAYS

IN THE CHURCH.

THE SPIRIT HIT YOU IN A LOT

OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

THAT'S WHAT WE LET IT DO.

WE LET IT HIT US WHEN WE

WERE SINGING.

Reporter: SO WHEN YOU

SING, IT IS NOT JUST WORDS

ON A PIECE OF PAPER --

NO.

Reporter: IT'S COMING

FROM YOUR HEART.

IT'S THE REAL DEAL?

IT'S THE REAL DEAL.

Reporter: WHEN CISSY'S

TALENTED AND BEAUTIFUL

DAUGHTER ROCKETED TO SUPER

STARDOM, IT DOESN'T SURPRISE

ANYONE IN THE MUSIC

INDUSTRY.

IT SEEMED NATURAL FOR

WHITNEY TO FOLLOW HER

MOTHER'S FOOTSTEPS.

SHE FINALLY BROKE INTO MUSIC

AFTER REFUSING ONE OF HER

FIRST LUCRATIVE CONTRACTS,

AND IT IS JUST ONE OF THE

STORIES CISSY TELLS IN HER

STORY, "REMEMBERING

WHITNEY."

Reporter: EVERYBODY

WANTED TO SIGN HER UP?

UH-HUH.

Reporter: WHAT DID YOU

DO WITH THAT?

I DIDN'T SIGN HER UP.

SHE WAS TOO YOUNG.

SHE DIDN'T SIGN UNTIL SHE

WAS 18 OR 19.

Reporter: WAS THERE A

TIME WHEN YOU SAID, THIS

GIRL HAS GOT IT?

AT 11 YEARS OLD, SHE HAD

A GOOD START ON IT.

I TAUGHT HER.

SHE LOVED TO SING.

THAT'S ALL SHE WANTED TO DO,

WAS SING.

Reporter: DID YOU TUTOR

HER, MENTOR HER?

UH-HUH.

EVERYTHING SHE KNEW.

Reporter: DID SHE LIKE

GOSPEL MUSIC?

SHE LOVED GOSPEL MUSIC.

Reporter: CISSY'S DEEP

FAITH IN GOD SUSTAINED HER

THROUGH THE GRIEF OF

WHITNEY'S TRAGIC DEATH.

THE SUPERSTAR'S TURBULENT

YEARS NEVER OVERSHADOWED

CISSY'S LOVE FOR HER

DAUGHTER.

GOD LIVES IN YOUR HEART.

THAT'S WHO YOU DEAL WITH

MOST OF THE TIME.

ME, I DO.

HE GUIDES ME.

AND SHE LEARNED TO LET HIM

GUIDE HER UP TO A POINT

WHERE SHE WOULDN'T LET HIM

GUIDE HER NO MORE.

THEN YOU GET INTO SOMETHING

THAT ISN'T RIGHT FOR YOU.

Reporter: THE COVER OF

THE BOOK HAS A GREAT

PHOTOGRAPH OF YOU TWO HERE,

BUT THE SHOT THAT REALLY,

REALLY HIT ME IS THIS ONE ON

THE BACK.

THAT'S THE ONE I LOVE.

Reporter: I LOVE THIS

SHOT.

THAT WAS IN EUROPE, AND

THERE WAS ALL THE PEOPLE OUT

THERE.

AND I CAME TO SEE HER.

SHE DIDN'T KNOW I WAS

COMING.

AND I SHOWED UP.

AND SHE WAS SINGING, AND I

CAME ON STAGE.

AND THEY SNAPPED A PICTURE.

Reporter: MOTHER AND

DAUGHTER.

UH-HUH.

Reporter: NOW, HERE YOU

ARE WITH YOUR DAUGHTER.

YEAH, MY BABY.

Reporter: SINGING

TOGETHER.

IN REHEARSAL -- I THINK

IT WAS REHEARSAL.

WE DIDN'T DRESS LIKE THAT --

IT WAS REHEARSAL.

ALL GROWN UP.

Reporter: YUP.

BEING A LADY.

Reporter: WELL, SHE

WAS.

HERE SHE IS WITH HER BABY.

THERE SHE IS.

Reporter: THAT'S A

GREAT SHOT.

ISN'T THAT A GREAT SHOT?

Reporter: THAT'S A

GREAT SHOT.

YUP.

SHE WAS FULL OF LOVE, TOO.

Reporter: THE NIGHT

BEFORE SHE DIED, HER LAST

PUBLIC APPEARANCE, SHE SANG

"JESUS LOVES, THIS I KNOW."

THAT'S RIGHT.

Reporter: THAT WAS THE

LAST PERFORMANCE, IF YOU CAN

CALL THAT A PERFORMANCE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS,

BUT IT WAS WHAT WAS IN HER

HEART.

THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.

Pat: SCOTT, ROSS, MAN,

I LOVE HIS WORK.

AND WE'VE GOT TO HAVE MORE

AND MORE FROM SCOTT.

CISSY HOUSTON HAS MORE

STORIES IN HER BOOK, AND

IT'S CALLED --

Kristi: "REMEMBERING

WHITNEY."

I'M HOLDING IT UP WHILE YOU

TALK.

Pat: I DIDN'T KNOW

CISSY WAS SO WELL-KNOWN.

SHE MS. GOSPEL MUSIC,

MAHALIA JACKSON, AND SHE WAS

ONE OF THE GREAT SINGERS.

I REMEMBER MAHALIA, SHE IS

DOWN TO EARTH, WITH ALL OF

THIS ACCLAIM.

AND WE HAD HER IN THIS NICE

HOTEL IN DOWNTOWN NORFOLK,

AND SHE WAS SITTING IN THIS

HOTEL, AND I CALLED HER, AND

I SAID, HOW YOU DOING?

AND SHE SAYS, I'M SITTING IN

HIS HOTEL ROOM, AND MAN, I'M

HUNGRY.

I WANT SOME CO COLLARDS AND

SOME GREENS.

SHE WANTED SOME SOUL FOOD.

I SAID, I'LL GET IT FOR YOU

RIGHT AWAY.

[LAUGHTER]

Pat: MAN COULD THAT

WOMAN SING.

I DIDN'T REALIZE CISSY

HOUSTON BACKED HER UP.

Kristi: BEFORE WHITNEY

HOUSTON EVER WAS, CISSY

HOUSTON HAD A HUGE NAME FOR

HERSELF.

SHE WAS A BACKGROUND SINGER

FOR LUTHER VAN DROS AND

MAHALIA.

SO BY THE TIME WHITNEY

HOUSTON CAME ON, SHE HAD

SOMEBODY TO TEACH HER.

Pat: WHAT AN

INTERESTING INTERVIEW.

GO AHEAD.

Kristi: COMING UP, IT

IS TIME FOR E-MAILS.

VANESSA SAYS, "MY SISTER HAS

BEEN AN ABUSIVE MARRIAGE FOR

EIGHT YEARS.

HE IS IN AND OUT OF PRISON.

HOW MUCH TIME SHOULD SHE

WASTE WAITING FOR HIM TO

CHANGE?"

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO STAY

TUNED AS WE "BRING IT ON"

WHEN WE COME BACK.

Lee: WELCOME BACK TO

"THE 700 CLUB."

NORTH DAKOTA'S REPUBLICAN

GOVERNOR HAS SIGNED

A BILL

OUTLAWING ABORTIONS AFTER 20

WEEKS.

IT'S BASED ON RESEARCH

STATING THAT THAT'S THE

POINT A FETUS CAN FEEL

PAIN.

THE LAW IS AMONG THE LATEST

MEASURES IN NORTH DAKOTA

MEANT TO CHALLENGE V ROE

VS. WADE.

LAST MONTH NORTH DAKOTA'S

GOVERNOR SIGNED A MEASURE

BANNING ABORTIONS WHEN A

FETAL HEARTBEAT IS

DETECTED.

NEW ZEALAND'S PARLIAMENT HAS

APPROVED SAME-SEX MARRIAGE.

IT IS THE 13th COUNTRY TO

DO SO AND THE FIRST IN THE

ASIA PACIFIC REGION.

LAWMAKERS VOTED 77-44 IN

FAVOR OF THE MEASURE.

MANY PEOPLE IN NEW ZEALAND

REMAIN ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO

DAY MARRIAGE, BUT SURVEYS

SHOW TWO-THIRDS SUPPORT IT.

YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE

LATEST NEWS FROM CBN BY

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STAY TUNED.

PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK

AFTER THIS.

Kristi: WELL, WE ARE

BACK, AND IT IS TIME FOR

YOUR E-MAIL QUESTIONS.

YOU READY, PAT?

Pat: I'LL LET YOU

KNOW.

Kristi: VANESSA

SAYS, "MY SISTER A

CHRISTIAN.

SHE HAS BEEN MARRIED FOR

EIGHT YEARS NOW, AND HER

HUSBAND IS NOT HONORING HIS

VOWS TO LOVE, PROTECT, AND

PROVIDE FOR HER.

HE HAS BEEN IN AND OUT OF

PRISON FOR STEALING AND

DOING DRUGS.

I HAVE NEVER SEEN HIM HIT

HER, BUT I'VE HEARD VERBAL

ABUSE.

MY SISTER HAS BEEN TRYING TO

MAKE IT WORK FOR THE SAKE OF

HER DAUGHTER.

AS HER SISTER, WHAT CAN I

DO?

I CAN'T CONTINUE TO STAND BY

AND WATCH HER SUFFER."

Pat: IT IS A SHAME TO

GIVE ADVICE TO A SISTER -- A

SISTER WHO IS IS BEING

ABUSED.

YOU COULD SAY, SHE HAS GOT

TO TOUGH IT THROUGH.

SHE'S GOT TO TAKE THIS MAN

TO COUNSELING.

THAT'S ONE WAY.

THE OTHER WAY IS TO INVOKE

WHAT HAS BEEN CALLED

APPALLING PRIVILEGE, WHICH

BASICALLY SAYS IF THE

UNBELIEVING SPOUSE IS

PLEASED TO DEPART, LET THEM

DEPART.

THE BROTHER OR SISTER IS NOT

BOUND IN THAT CASE.

I BELIEVE THERE IS SUCH A

THING AS CONSTRUCTIVE

DESERTION, WHERE SOMEBODY

MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR A

PERSON TO LIVE WITH THEM.

I THINK YOU MIGHT FIND THAT

IN THIS CASE.

I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO

PROBABLY WILL DISAGREE WITH

THAT, BUT I DO THINK THAT

THIS MAN HAS PROVEN THAT

LIVING WITH HIM IS AN

IMPOSSIBILITY, AND YOUR

SISTER WOULD BE A LOT BETTER

OFF IF SHE SOUGHT TO SAY,

ACCORDING TO THE APOSTLE

PAUL, I'M NOT BOUND TO YOU

ANY LONGER, AND I NEED TO

GET A DIVORCE.

Kristi: JAVIER SAYS, "I

NEED YOUR HELP.

AS I TYPE THIS QUESTION, I'M

IN TEARS BECAUSE ALL OF MY

LIFE I HAVE FELT ALONE.

I'M IN THE HOUSE ALL DAY

BECAUSE I'M SICK.

SSO I FEEL MORE ALONE THAN

EVER BEFORE.

I NO SUICIDE IS NOT AN

OPTION, BUT THE THOUGHT

KEEPS COMING TO MY MIND.

WHAT CAN A BED-RIDDEN PERSON

DO TO FIGHT DEPRESSION?"

Pat: FIRST OF ALL, I

WANT TO SAY DEPRESSION IS

REAL.

IT IS NOT JUST SOMETHING

THAT IS IN SOMEBODY'S MIND.

IT IS A CLINICAL CONDITION.

IT IS CAUSED BY IMBALANCE OF

HORMONES AND SO FORTH, AND

SOMETIMES CAN BE FIXED WITH

MEDICATION.

THE OTHER THING ABOUT

DEPRESSION IS IT BUILDS UP.

IF YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH

SEROTONIN, YOU DON'T GET

ENOUGH SUNLIGHT IN YOUR

EYES, AND YOUR NOT DOING

EXERCISE AND YOU'RE NOT

EATING PROPERLY.

IF YOU EAT A WHOLE LOT OF

JUNK FOOD AND SWEETS, THINGS

LIKE THAT, IT WILL TEND TO

DEPRESSION.

YOU SAY YOUR BEDRIDDEN.

IS THIS PSYCHOLOGICAL

SICKNESS OR A PHYSICAL

SICKNESS.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS PSYCHO

PSYCHOSEMATIC.

I WOULD ADVICE YOU, EVEN IF

YOUR CONDITION IS PHYSICAL

AND IT IS DIFFICULT, GET A

WHEELCHAIR.

GET OUT AND GET SOMEBODY TO

HELP YOU.

GET OUT WHERE PEOPLE ARE.

GO TO A SHOPPING CENTER.

GO TO HELP PEOPLE.

GO TO A HOMELESS SHELTER.

GO TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE AND

SERVE AND STOP THINKING

ABOUT YOURSELF.

BECAUSE YOU'RE THERE IN THIS

DEPRESSED STATE, AND THE

LONGER YOU STAY THERE, THE

WORSE IT GETS.

PEOPLE WHO ARE OVERCOMING

INCREDIBLE HANDICAPS, AND I

ADMIRE THEM AND CONGRATULATE

THEM, AND I WOULD DO THE

SAME THING FOR YOU.

OVERCOME THAT HANDICAP, BUT

IT TAKES AN ACT OF YOUR

WILL.

GET UP AND MOVING.

Kristi: OKAY.

TOMMY WRITES IN, AND HE SAYS

"IS IT OKAY TO PRAY FOR

MONEY?"

WELL, I DO ALL THE TIME --

I'M JUST KIDDING.

"IF I REALLY NEED IT

DESPERATELY, IS IT OKAY TO

SAY THAT GOD WILL PROSPER ME

AND NOT FEEL BAD ABOUT IT?"

WHAT DO YOU THINK, PAT?

Pat: IT IS MAR PART OF

THE LORD'S PRAYER, "GIVE US

THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD."

AND WE USE THE TERM "BREAD"

FOR MONEY.

WE CAN ASK GOD TO GIVE US

SUCCESS IN A BUSINESS

VENTURE.

HE WANTS US TO PROSPER.

I PRAY THAT YOUR SOUL WILL

PROSPER, YOU WILL PROSPER

EVEN AS YOUR SOUL PROSPERS.

AND I THINK IF YOU READ IN

THE BIBLE, IN THE BOOK OF

PROVERBS, YOU SEE REPEATED

REFERENCES TO PROSPERITY, TO

THE THINGS THAT GOD WANTS TO

DO FOR YOU.

I DON'T THINK GOD WANTS

PEOPLE TO STAY IN POVERTY.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOD'S

BEST FOR PEOPLE, AND I DO

THINK HE WILL BLESS YOU.

WHAT YOU MIGHT SAY IS SHOW

ME THE WAY THAT I MUST LIVE

TO PLEASE YOU AND TO HAVE

YOUR FAVOR.

AND I THINK MORE THAN

ANYTHING, INSTEAD OF PRAYING

FOR MONEY, ASK GOD FOR

FAVOR.

AND ASK GOD FOR WISDOM.

IF YOU HAVE WISDOM AND

FAVOR, YOU'RE PROBABLY HAVE

MONEY, TOO.

Kristi: I'M SITTING

HERE WITH A PEN AND NOTE

PAD, BECAUSE THESE ARE GOOD

ANSWERS.

I'M NOT SAYING IT LIKE I'M

SHOCKED.

Pat: EXACTLY.

WHAT COULD HAVE POSSIBLY

COME OVER YOU.

YOU'VE BEEN GONE FOR A FEW

DAYS.

Kristi: I'VE BEEN GONE

FOR A FEW WEEKS, AND I'VE

COME BACK AND THIS IS SO

NICE.

"I HAVE ABOUT THREE MONTHS

OF INCOME STORED AWAY IN

CASE OF EMERGENCY.

I HAVE ABOUT HALF OF THAT,

BUT IT IS IN AN ACCOUNT THAT

IS NOW EARNING LESS THAN ONE

PERCENT.

WHERE SHOULD I PUT THIS SO

THAT IT WOUL WILL EARN

SOMETHING, BUT NOT HAVE A

BIG RISK."

Pat: ABOUT A MONTH AGO,

I WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU TO PUT

IT IN GOLD, BUT GOLD JUST

CRASHED.

I THINK YOUR READY MONEY

PRETTY MUCH NEEDS TO BE IN

CASH, WHERE YOU CAN GET AT

IT.

I CAN TELL YOU SOME THINGS

THAT WOULD GIVE YOU SOME

HIGH YIELD.

THERE ARE CERTAIN FUNDS,

ESPECIALLY -- I REALLY,

REALLY, REALLY LIKE THE

FUNDS, THE MASTER LIMITED

PARTNERSHIPS, THAT HAVE GAS

AND OIL PIPELINES, AND THAT

KIND OF THING.

AND THEY THROW OUT A PRETTY

GOOD DIVIDEND, AND THEY GIVE

IT REGULARLY.

SO YOU GET DIVIDENDS, BUT

THEY, LIKE ALL OTHER STOCKS,

ARE SUBJECT TO THE MARKET

FLUCTUATION.

AND THAT READY MONEY CAN'T

BE THAT MUCH YOU HAVE ON

HAND.

I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

I BELIEVI THINK IF YOU'VE

GOT IT -- A MONEY MARKET

FUND IS NOT BACKED BY FDIC.

YOU COULD PUT IT IN A BANK

WHERE YOU'VE GOT PROTECTION

UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF

MONEY, SO YOU WON'T

NECESSARILY LOSE IT, AND IT

IS INSURED AND GUARANTEED,

BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT, IT

SEEMS LIKE TO ME.

WE'VE HAD SOME RESERVES AT

CBN, JUST LIKE YOU'RE

TALKING ABOUT, AND I PUT

THEM INTO AUSTRALIAN

DOLLARS, CANADIAN DOLLARS,

AND AT THAT TIME THOSE

CURRENCIES WENT UP IN VALUE,

BUT THEY AREN'T UP NOW, AND

SO THEY GO DOWN.

I THINK JUST KEEP IT IN

DOLLARS.

THAT LITTLE BIT OF MONEY

ISN'T THAT MUCH.

Kristi: YOU KNOW PEOPLE

LOVE TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS.

WE WANT TO INVITE YOU, IF

YOU EVER WANT TO ASK PAT A

QUESTION, NOW IS THE TIME.

JUST LOG ON TO CBN.COM.

HE LOVES THEM.

Pat: LOVES THEM.

Kristi: SO THAT'S WHERE

YOU GO SO WE CAN ANSWER THEM

WITH "BRING IT ON."

YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THE TERM

"FAITH LIKE A CHILD."

UP NEXT, A WOMAN WHO HAD

FAITH FOR A CHILD, EVEN

THOUGH DOCTORS TOLD HER SHE

COULDN'T HAVE ONE.

HEAR HER AMAZING STORY OF

ENCOURAGEMENT AND FAITH WHEN

WE COME BACK.

Kristi: MS. ROBERTS IS

A FORMER MISS AMERICA

CONTESTANT WHO HAD A GREAT

JOB AND A GREAT HUSBAND.

BUT THERE WAS ONE THING SHE

DESPERATELY WANTED, IN FACT,

THE ONE THING THE DOCTOR

TOLD HER SHE COULD NEVER

HAVE.

THE DOCTOR SAID POLY

CYSTIC OVARIAN SYNDROME IS

ONE OF THE LEADING CAUSES OF

INFERTILITY.

MY HEART HAD ALWAYS BEEN TO

BE A MOTHER.

I FELT, LIKE, LORD, WE TRIED

THE INFERTILITY TREATMENTS,

AND THAT DIDN'T WORK.

WE TRIED ADOPTION, AND THAT

DIDN'T WORK.

WE TRIED FOSTER CARE, AND

THAT DIDN'T WORK.

WHAT IS GOING ON.

THERE WERE DAYS I COULDN'T

EVEN GET TO WORK BECAUSE I

WAS IN BED CRYING, LORD, WHY

CAN'T I HAVE A CHILD.

THAT'S WHEN IT STARTED TO

OVERTAKE ME.

I TURNED 30, AND I JUST TOLD

THE LORD, I JUST WANT 30 TO

BE MY BEST YEAR.

WHETHER I HAD CHILDREN OR

NOT.

BECAUSE IT HAD BECOME AN

IDOL.

CHILDREN ARE GREAT, THEY'RE

A BLESSING, BUT FOR ME IT

BECAME AN OBSESSION.

TO HAVE CHILDREN BY ANY

MEANS NECESSARY.

THE CAN GET UNBALANCED WHEN

YOU PUT THAT ABOVE OTHER

MORE IMPORTANT THINGS IN

YOUR LIFE.

I HAD TO SUBMIT TO THE LORD,

YES, I'M 30, AND I DON'T

HAVE ANY CHILDREN YET, BUT I

KNOW GOD IS THE GOD OF THE

IMPOSSIBLE.

I TOLD THE LORD, IF I HAVE

TO FAST FOR THE NEXT FEW

YEARS, FEW MONTHS, FEW

WEEKS, I JUST NEED A

BREAKTHROUGH IN THIS AREA.

I GOT MYSELF INTO GOOD BIBLE

TEACHINGS ABOUT FAITH, ABOUT

BELIEVING THE LORD.

ABOUT BELIEVING HIM REALLY

FOR THE IMPOSSIBLE, BECAUSE

FOR IS, PREGNANCY WAS

LOOKING LIKE AN

IMPOSSIBILITY.

IN JANUARY I TURNED 30, AND

ON MARCH 5th, WE FOUND OUT

THAT WE WERE PREGNANT,

ABSOLUTELY NATURALLY, SUPER

NATURALLY.

SO GOD JUST GAVE US THE

DESIRES OF OUR HEART.

EARLY ON I WENT TO THE

DOCTOR TO CONFIRM THE

PREGNANCY.

AND AS WE WERE HEARING THE

HEARTBEAT, TEARS WERE

WELLING UP.

WE WERE LIKE, THAT'S A

HEARTBEAT.

I ASKED THE ULTRASOUND TECH

AT THAT POINT IF SHE COULD

TAKE A LOOK AT MY OVARIES TO

SEE IF THE CYSTS WERE TILL

THERE.

STILL THERE.

AND SHE SAID, WHAT CYSTS.

I SAID I HAD POLY CYSTIC

CYSTS, AND SHE SAID, I DON'T

SEE ANY.

MY NAME IS RANELLE ROBERTS,

AND MY DAUGHTER IS DAPHNE

ROBERTS, AND SHE IS THREE

MONTHS OLD.

Kristi: WHAT A

WONDERFUL STORY.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, MY HEART

IS JUST IN GLEE WITH THIS.

BUT WE WANT TO PRAY WITH

YOU.

WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU

THAT IF THERE IS SOMETHING

THAT YOU'RE STANDING IN

FAITH TO BELIEVE, PAT AND I

WILL STAND WITH YOU.

EDWARD OF BOOKER, TEXAS,

DEVELOPED INTENSE KNEE PAIN

DUE TO HIS JOB THAT REQUIRED

PHYSICAL LABOR.

HE WAS IN PAIN ALL OF THE

TIME.

ONE DAY HE WAS WATCHING "THE

700 CLUB," AND, PAT, YOU

GAVE A WORD OF KNOWLEDGE.

YOU SAID A KNEE IS BEING

HEALED.

EDWARD CLAIMED THE WORD OF

KNOWLEDGE AND HE WENT TO

BED.

WHEN HE WOKE UP, THE PAIN

WAS COMPLETELY GONE.

AND HE HAD NO PROBLEMS IN

HIS LEG SINCE THAT DAY.

Pat: HER IS SOMEBODY

WHO'S NAME IS RENEE.

SHE LIVES IN ARVERN, NEW

YORK.

SHE SUDDENLY DEVELOPED DAILY

NOSE BLEEDS AND INTENSE

PAIN.

RENEE AND HER HUSBAND DIDN'T

KNOW THE CAUSE OF IT.

ONE DAY WHILE WATCHING "THE

700 CLUB," YOU, KRISTI, WERE

HOLDING YOUR NOSE AND SAYING

IT IS NOT A SINUS INFECTION,

BUT IT IS SOMETHING AT THE

BRIDGE OF YOUR NOSE, AND

IT'S AN INFECTION, AND THE

LORD IS HEALING THAT.

DO YOU REMEMBER THAT?

Kristi: UH-UH.

Pat: THE BLEEDING

IMMEDIATELY STOPPED.

WE'VE GOT ABOUT A MINUTE TO

PRAY.

WE'RE GOING TO JOIN HANDS.

FATHER, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, LORD.

Kristi: YES, JESUS.

Pat: THERE IS A TUMOR

THE SIZE OF A GOOSE EGG IN

SOME WOMAN'S BREAST.

GOD IS HEALING THAT TUMOR

NOW.

IT IS LEAVING IN THE NAME OF

JESUS.

KRISTI?

Kristi: THE LORD IS

HEALING SOMEONE, AND MANY

PEOPLE OUT THERE, WITH

HEARTBREAK.

GOD IS A GOD OF COMPASSION.

HE WANTS TO BE THERE.

TRUST AND RELY ON HIM RIGHT

NOW.

Pat: MAY THE ANOINTING

OF THE HOLY SPIRIT FILL

YOU.

YOU'RE SAYING, GOD, I NEED

$25,000.

YOU'RE HURTING.

RIGHT NOW, AS WE'RE PRAYING,

WON'T YOU PLEASE TAKE CARE

OF IT.

THE LORD SAYS, I HAVE HEARD

YOUR PRAYER.

HE WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU

FINANCIALLY BECAUSE HE LOVES

YOU.

IN JESUS' NAME.

Kristi: AMEN.

Pat: AMEN.

THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH

US.

THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME WE'VE

GOT.

REMEMBER THE TELEPHONES ARE

AVAILABLE.

IF THE LORD HAS TOUCHED YOU,

PLEASE CALL.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE

WORDS FROM FROM 2 KINGS 20:

"THUS SAYS THE LORD, I HAVE

HEARD YOUR PRAYER.

I HAVE SEEN YOUR TEARS.

SURELY I WILL HEAL YOU."

THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE'VE

GOT.

AND KRISTI IS WORKING ON A

GREAT PROJECT.

LAST WEEK WE WERE DOING SOME

WORK UP IN THE MOUNTAINS OF

VIRGINIA, AND I THINK IT'S

GOING TO BE TREMENDOUS.

Kristi: ABSOLUTELY.

AMEN.

Pat: WE'LL REVEAL THAT

LATER, RIGHT?

Kristi: LATER.

Pat: WE'LL SEE YOU

TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

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