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The 700 Club - May 9, 2013

Author Stephen Mansfield revisits the political intrigue and religious corruption of Jesus' crucifixion. Plus, on the fast-track to glam rock fame and fortune in the 1980's, Bob sold his soul for sex, drugs and rock n' roll. Read Transcript


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Lee: THE LEAD SINGER

FROM HURRICANE.

THEY INVITED ME ON STAGE,

AND THE REST IS HISTORY.

Lee: HIS LIFE

OFF-STAGE.

I'M THE LEAD SINGER IN

ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR

BANDS IN FLORIDA, AND

EVERYBODY WANTS TO FEED YOU

COCAINE.

Lee: AND A PRICE HE

PAID FOR A SHOT AT THE TOP.

FOR CRYSTAL METH AND ROCK

AND ROLL, I LEFT MY FAMILY

AND I NEVER LOOKED BACK.

Lee: ON TODAY'S "700

CLUB."

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Pat: WELCOME, LADIES

AND GENTLEMEN, TO THIS

EDITION OF "THE 700 CLUB."

YOU KNOW, THEY SAY IT HAS

BEEN SAID THAT EVERY

AMERICAN OVER 18 YEARS OF

AGE HAS BROKEN SOME LAW

BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY OF

THEM.

IN ONE 10-YEAR PERIOD OF

TIME, CONGRESS WILL ADD 500

NEW CRIMES TO THE FEDERAL

CODE.

WELL, THERE HAS BEEN A

PROTEST IN THE NRCHL

AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY,

THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY, AND

CERTAINLY ON THIS PROGRAM.

WE'VE BEEN SHOUTING ABOUT

THE FACT THAT WE'RE BECOMING

A NATION OF CRIMINALS.

WASHINGTON HAS FINALLY

CREATED SOMETHING TO DEAL

WITH THIS MATTER.

THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED A

TASKFORCE TO CHECK ON THE

CRIMINAL CODE, TO SEE IF IT

CAN'T BE REFORMED.

Terry: OUR JOHN JESSUP

IS IS GOING TO BRING US UP

TO DATE ON THE SITUATION.

JOHN?

Reporter: AMERICA'S

CRIMINAL CODE IS ENORMOUS,

WITH 450 4500 CRIMES ON THE

BOOKS, AND GROWING BY AS

MUCH AS 500 NEW CRIMES EACH

DECADE.

THAT MEANS ORDINARY

AMERICANS CAN FACE FINES,

AND EVEN PRISON TIME FOR

CRIMES THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW

THEY'RE COMMITTING.

CRITICS CALL THE CODE

OUTDATED AND OUT OF

CONTROL.

THAT'S WHY CONGRESS WANTS A

BBIPARTISAN TASKFORCE TO

INVESTIGATE THIS.

BOBBY SCOTT WILL BE THE

RANKING DEMOCRATIC ON THE

PANEL.

IN THE PAST 20, 30 YEARS,

THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN JAIL

OR PRISON IN AMERICA HAS

GONE UP ALMOST 10-FOLD,

BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU TURN

AROUND, THERE ARE NEW LAWS.

Reporter: IN 2003,

FEDERAL AGENTS RAIDED AND

RANSACKED THE HOME OF GEORGE

NORRIS AND HIS WIFE, CATHY.

GEORGE SPENT A YEAR AND A

HALF IN PRISON, CHARGED WITH

SELLING ORCHIDS, THAT THE

GOVERNMENT THOUGHT WERE

IMPORTED.

HE HAD TO SPEND HIS ENTIRE

SAVINGS DENYING THE

CHARGES.

THE COUNTRY I'VE GROWN UP

IN WAS NOT LIKE THIS.

AND I LOST THE COUNTRY I

LOVED.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO HELP GET

IT BACK.

Reporter: ANALYST PAUL

LARKIN SAW THIS ABUSE AT THE

DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

ATTORNEY AND THE E.P.A.

ONLY WHEN THE PUBLIC GETS

OUTRAGED WILL SOMETHING

HAPPENMENT ONLY THEN WILL

YOU SEE PROSECUTORS NOT

PROSECUTE THE CASE.

ONLY THEN WILL YOU SEE

CONGRESS NOT PASS ANYMORE

LAWS.

Reporter: THIS EFFORT

MAY ACTUALLY GET SOMEWHERE.

GROUPS AS ADVERSE AT THE

CONSERVATIVE LIBERAL

FOUNDATION, AND THE

LIBERTARIAN KATO INSTITUTE

ALL SUPPORT THE REFORM OF

THE FEDERAL CODE.

AND THE GOVERNMENT WIELDING

TOO MUCH PROSECUTING POWERS

AGAINST ITS CITIZENS.

JOHN JESSUP, CBN NEWS.

Pat: WE APPLAUD THAT

INITIATIVE.

AND I WANT TO INTRODUCE TO

YOU CONGRESSMAN JIM

SENSENBRENNER, WHO IS GOING

TO LEAD THE TASKFORCE.

IT IS A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU

WITH US.

I'M SO DELIGHTED ABOUT THIS

TASKFORCE.

I HOPE IT IS VERY

SUCCESSFUL.

WELL, I AM, TOO, AND I

SHARE YOUR HOPE.

I THINK WE HAVE FINALLY

STRUCK PAY DIRT, AND HAVING

A TASKFORCE THAT WILL HAVE

NO OTHER JOB BUT TO TRY TO

PUT SOME SENSE IN THE

CRIMINAL CODE, AND WE'VE GOT

SIX MONTHS TO DO IT, AND I

THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO

IT.

Pat: THAT'S A

MONUMENTAL TASK IN SIX

MONTHS.

ARE YOU JUST GOING TO SAY,

LOOK, SOME OF THESE THINGS

WE'RE JUST GOING TO STRIKE

OFF THE BOOKS, OR ARE YOU

GOING TO GO STAPH TOO

STATUTE BY STATUTE.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DO

IT ISSUE BY ISSUE.

FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE

SEVERAL DIFFERENT STANDARDS

OF CRIMINAL INTENT,

DEPENDING UPON WHAT THE

CRIME IS IS.

THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE

EITHER YOU HAVE IT OR YOU

DON'T, AND WE OUGHT TO GET

ONE STANDARD OF CRIMINAL

INTENT.

THE SECOND THING WE'RE GOING

TO LOOK AT IS UNNECESSARY

CRIMINAL LAWS.

AND THE THIRD THING WE'RE

GOING TO LOOK AT IS WHERE

STATE AND LOCAL POLICE WOULD

BE BETTER ABLE TO ENFORCE

THE LAW, RATHER THAN MAKING

IT A FEDERAL CASE AND HAVING

THE F.B.I. INVOLVED.

I THINK THE F.B.I. HAS GOT

MUCH BETTER THINGS TO DO,

FOR EXAMPLE, THAN

INVESTIGATE AN 11-YEAR-OLD

GIRL THAT ENDED UP HAVING TO

PAY A $500 CRIMINAL FINE

BECAUSE SHE FOUND AN INJURED

WOODPECKER AND PUT IT IN A

CAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE

BIRD WAS OKAY.

THEN THAT VIOLATED THE

MIGRATORY BIRD ACT.

Pat: HAVE YOU SERIOUS?

I MEAN, THAT REALLY

HAPPENED?

IT DID.

Pat: IT IS TOO BIZARRE

TO EVEN CON PLATE.

THEY PROSECUTED THAT CHILD

FOR TRYING TO HELP AN

INJURED BIRD?

RIGHT.

Pat: WHAT ARE YOU GOING

TO DO ABOUT ALL OF THE

REGULATIONS?

THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF THEM

THAT THE REGULATORY AGENCIES

HAVE PUT CRIMINA CRIMINAL

SANCTIONS ON SOME OF THEIR

RULES.

THE PRESIDENT, BY EXECUTIVE

ORDER, COULD STRIKE SOME OF

THOSE THINGS DOWN.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

I THINK THE FEDERAL

CONGRESS IS GOING TO HAVE TO

LOOK AT REGULATIONS.

BECAUSE WHEN CRIMINAL

AUTHORITY WAS GIVEN TO

BRANCHES, A LOT OF THAT WAS

DONE BY OTHER COMMITTEES,

RATHER THAN THE JUDICIARY

COMMITTEE.

AND WE'VE GOT SOME EXPERTISE

OF WHAT IS A PROPER FEDERAL

CRIME, AND WHAT TYPE OF

CRIMINAL INTENT IS

REQUIRED.

IT IS OUR HOPE WE'LL BE ABLE

TO GET ALL OF THE ONES THAT

REMAIN PUT INTO TITLE 18,

WHICH IS THE FEDERAL

CRIMINAL CODE, SO AT LEAST

PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK

AT ONE CHAPTER OF THE U.S.

CODE TO FIND OUT WHAT IS

CRIMINAL AND WHAT ISN'T.

Pat: THERE HAS BEEN THE

DISCUSSION, JUST RECENTLY,

ABOUT JUDGES AND

SENTENCING.

ARE YOU GOING TO DEAL WITH

THAT, THE SO-CALLED MINIMUM

MANDATORY SENTENCES?

WELL, WE MAY AND WE MAY

NOT.

IT DEPENDS UPON HOW

CONTROVERSIAL IT IS.

I HAVE A FAVORED MANDATORY

MINIMUM SENTENCES AS A WAY

OF GETTING AROUND JUDGE

SHOPPING, BECAUSE THERE ARE

SOME FEDERAL JUDGES THAT

HAVE REPUTATIONS OF BEING

HANGING JUDGES, AND OTHERS

THAT HAVE REPUTATIONS OF

BEING LENIENT JUDGES.

IT SEEMS TO ME IF YOU'RE

CONVICTED OF THE SAME CRIME,

YOU SHOULD SERVE THE SAME

TIME, RATHER THAN IT BEING

THE ATTITUDE OF THE JUDGE

THAT HAPPENS TO PRESIDE OVER

YOUR CASE.

SO I GUESS I CAN SAY THE

BURDEN IS GOING TO BE ON

PEOPLE WHO OBJECT TO

MANDATORY MINIMUMS THAT COME

UP WITH A WAY TO END THIS

DISPARITY OF SENTENCING,

DEPENDING ON WHAT JUDGE GETS

ASSIGNED TO THE CASE.

Pat: SIX MONTH, TO ME,

SEEMS AN INCREDIBLY SHORT

LENGTH OF TIME, BUT IF YOU

COMPLETE YOUR WORK IN SIX

MONTHS, WHAT HAPPENS THEN?

IS IS THE SENATE GOING TO

HAVE TO DO A SIMILAR

COMMITTEE?

OR ARE THEY GOING TO JUST

HANDLE IT?

WHEN WE DID THE VOTING

RIGHTS ACT RENEWAL, THE

SENATE DIDN'T WANT TO SPEND

THE TIME DOING IT.

AND THEY HUFFED AND PUFFED,

AND COMPLAINED ABOUT HOW

COMPLICATED THIS WAS.

AND THEN RANKING MEMBER

CONYERS AND I HAD TO GO OVER

THERE WITH OUR 12,000 PAGES

OF TESTIMONY AND EXHIBITS

AND GIVE IT TO THEM, AND

THEY TOOK DUE NOTICE AND

TOOK THE EASY WAY OUTS.

I THINK THE SAME THING IS

GOING TO HAPPEN.

THERE IS A BIGGER DIVIDE

BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND THE

SENATE THAN THERE IS BETWEEN

THE REPUBLICANS AND THE

DEMOCRATS.

I GIVE YOU A LOT OF CREDIT

THAT YOU'RE GIVING PUBLICITY

TO SOMETHING THAT IS

BIPARTISAN AND HOPEFULLY NOT

CONTROVERSIAL IN THE END.

Pat: IT SOUNDS LIKE IT

IS BIPARTISAN.

IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

HOW CAN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

HELP YOUR WORK.

I THINK IT IS CRITICAL WHAT

YOU'RE DOING.

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE THEM TO

DO?

I THINK THEY OUGHT TO

TALK TO THEIR OWN

CONGRESSMAN OR

CONGRESSWOMAN, AND MAYBE

EVEN THE SENATORS, IF THEY

CAN FIND AND TRACK DOWN THE

SENATORS, TO ACTUALLY

SUPPORT THE WORK OF THIS

TASKFORCE.

AND THE REASON I SAY THAT,

RATHER THAN SAYING WELL, THE

TASKFORCE OUGHT TO DO THIS

OR SHOULDN'T DO THAT IS THAT

I THINK ALL OF US ON THE

TASKFORCE HAVE AN OPEN MIND,

AND WE NEED SOME SUPPORT AS

INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE WE ARE

GOING TO BE WADING INTO

THINGS THAT HAVE THE

POTENTIAL OF BEING VERY

CONTROVERSIAL.

I THINK UNIFORMITY AND

CLARITY IN THE FEDERAL

CRIMINAL CODE SHOULD BE THE

NUMBER ONE GOAL OF THIS

TASKFORCE.

AND TO DETERMINE HOW THE

ROLE OF FEDERALISM SHOULD

WORK.

THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE

THAT GET FRUSTRATED ABOUT

THE FACT THAT THE STATES

DON'T DO ENOUGH IN CERTAIN

AREAS, SO THEY COME TO

CONGRESS TO MAKE IT A

FEDERAL CRIME.

NOT EVERYTHING SHOULD BE A

FEDERAL CRIME.

IF THE LOCAL DISTRICTS AND

SHERIFFS DON'T DO THEIR JOB,

IT IS UP TO THE VOTERS OF

THOSE ACCOUNTS T COUNTIES

TO GO DO THEIR JOB FOR FIND

SOMEBODY ELSE IN THE NEXT

ELECTION.

Pat: I APPLAUD WHAT

YOU'RE DOING, CONGRESSMAN.

IF WE CAN HELP ALONG THE

WAY, DON'T HESITATE TO

CALL.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED A LOT

OF HELP AND PRAYERS ON THIS

ONE.

I GUARANTEE YOU THAT.

Pat: YOU'LL HAVE THEM

FROM US.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

Terry: COMING UP LATER,

HE WAS OFFERED FAME AND

FORTUNE WITH ONE

CONDITION --

TO BE THE GREATEST ROCK

AND ROLL SINGER OF ALL

TIMES, I BELIEVE YOUR WIFE

AND YOUR FAMILY IS HOLDING

YOU BACK.

SO FOR CRYSTAL METH AND ROCK

AND ROLL, I LEFT MY FAMILY

AND I NEVER LOOKED BACK.

Terry: SEE HOW THIS

SINGER'S DECISION

BACKFIRED.

BUT BEFORE WE GET TO THAT,

LEE WEBB IS GOING TO HAVE

THE LATEST ON THE

WHISTLE-BLOWERS, RIGHT AFTER

THIS.

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Lee: AND WELCOME BACK

TO THE "THE 700 CLUB."

REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS SAY

THEY'RE JUST BEGINNING TO

UNCOVER THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT

HAPPENED DURING LAST YEAR'S

DEADLY ATTACK ON THE U.S.

CONSULATE IN BENGHAZI.

THREE STATE DEPARTMENT

WITNESSES TESTIFIED THE

ADMINISTRATION DID NOT DO

ENOUGH TO SAVE THE LIVES OF

THE U.S. AMBASSADOR AND

THREE OTHER AMERICANS.

MARMARK MARTIN HAS THE

STORY.

Reporter: THREE FOREIGN

SERVICE OFFICERS, KNOWN AS

THE BENGHAZI

WHISTLE-BLOWERS, TOLD THEIR

SIDE OF WHAT HAPPENED IN

2011, IN BENGHAZI, LIBYA.

NONE OF US SHOULD EVER

BEGAN EXPERIENCE WHAT WE

WENT THROUGH IN BENGHAZI.

> I GOT THE AMBASSADOR ON

THE OTHER END, AND HE SAID,

GREG, WE'RE UNDER ATTACK.

Reporter: THE LINE WENT

DEAD, AND HICKS, WHO WAS AT

THE EMBASSY IN TRIPOLI, SAID

HE WANTED TO DISPATCH A U.S.

FORCES TEAM TO BENGHAZI, BUT

THE TEAM WAS ORDERED TO

STAND DOWN.

HOW DID THE PERSONNEL

REACT TO BEING TOLD TO STAND

DOWN?

THEY WERE FURIOUS.

Reporter: THE PENTAGON

SAYS THE TEAM WAS NEEDED TO

FORTIFY THE EMBASSY IN

TRIPOLI, AND WOULD NOT HAVE

MADE IT TO BENGHAZI IN

TIME.

SEVERAL TIMES AFTER TALKING

TO THE AMBASSADOR, HICKS

TOOK ANOTHER CALL.

I THINK IT IS THE SADDEST

PHONE CALL I HAVE EVER HAD

IN MY LIFE.

HE TOLD ME THAT AMBASSADOR

STEVENS HAD PASSED AWAY.

Reporter: ONE OF THE

WHISTLE-BLOWERS TOOK ISSUE

WITH THEN SECRETARY OF STATE

HILLARY CLINTON'S TESTIMONY

EARLIER THIS YEAR ABOUT THE

MOTIVES BEHIND THE ATTACK.

WAS THIS BECAUSE OF A

PROTEST OR BECAUSE OF GUYS

OUT FOR A WALK DECIDED THEY

WOULD GO KILL SOME

AMERICANS.

WHAT DIFFERENCE, AT THIS

POINT, DOES IT MAKE?

WHAT HAPPENED PRIOR,

DURING AND AFTER THE ATTACK

MATTER.

AND IT MATTERS TO MY

COLLEAGUES -- TO MY

COLLEAGUES AT THE DEPARTMENT

OF STATE.

Reporter: THE WITNESSES

ALSO SAID THE

ADMINISTRATION'S BLAMING OF

A YouTube VIDEO FOR THE

ATTACKS DID NOT MAKE SENSE,

AND THAT THEY FACED

INTIMIDATION FOR QUESTIONING

THAT LINE.

THE G.O.P. SAYS MUCH MORE

WILL COME TO LIGHT IN FUTURE

HEARINGS.

THIS HEARING OPENED THE

FLOODGATES, BUT THERE ARE

MANY, MANY MORE HEARINGS WE

HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO FIND

OUT THE TRUTH, AND FIND OUT

WHY THE TRUTH BECAME A LIE.

IT IS ABOUT THE

GOVERNMENT LYING.

IT IS ABOUT PEOPLE BEING IN

HARM'S WAY, FEELING

ABANDONED, AND WE HAVE TO

REPAIR THAT TRUST AND HOLD

SOMEBODY ACCOUNTABLE, AND

WITH RESPONSIBILITY AND

POWER COMES ACCOUNTABLE, AND

THERE HAS BEEN NONE IN

BENGHAZI.

THAT IS ABOUT TO CHANGE.

Reporter: REPUBLICANS

SAY THE HEARINGS SHOWED

POLITICS PLAYED A ROLE IN

HOW THE ADMINISTRATION

RESPONDED BEFORE THE

PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

THE WHITE HOUSE SAYS THAT IS

NOT TRUE.

MARK MARTIN, CBN NEWS.

Lee: PAT, DO YOU HAVE

SOME PREDICTIONS HERE?

Pat: LEE, THE THING OF

IT IS THE MEDIA IS IN THE

TANK FOR OBAMA, AND THEY'RE

NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO

HURT OBAMA IF THEY CAN HELP

IT.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO COVER

FOR HIM, AND THEY'RE GOING

TO CAST ASPERSION ON ANYBODY

WHO CRITICIZES THE

ADMINISTRATION FOR DOING

ANYTHING.

WHEN NIXON WAS HAVING THE

WATERGATE PROBLEM, THE MEDIA

WAS AGAINST NICK SO, S --

NIXON, SO THE COUNTRY TURNED

AGAINST NIXON.

A REPORTER AT CBS, I

UNDERSTAND, WAS DISCIPLINED

BECAUSE SHE WAS GETTING TO

THE HEART OF THIS ISSUE AND

TRYING TO GET THE FACTS.

AND CBS SAID SHE WAS

BECOMING TOO PARTISAN.

IT IS JUST RIDICULOUS.

THEY WANT TO COVER.

SO YOU SAY, WHAT'S MY

PREDICTION?

MY PREDICTION IS IT COULD

HURT HILLARY CLINTON IN THE

RUN FOR THE PRESIDENCY

BECAUSE SHE IS RIGHT AT THE

HEART OF THIS THING, AND

THEY'LL KEEP BRINGING IT UP,

BRINGING IT UP, BECAUSE

THERE WAS NO QUESTION SHE

KNEW WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

THEY HUNG SUSAN RICE OUT TO

DRY ON THAT THING.

GAVE HER FALSE TALKING

POINTS, AND THEN THEY'VE

BEEN LYING ABOUT IT.

THE ADMINISTRATION BE THEIR

FLACKS ARE LYING.

THEY CHANGED THE TALKING

POINTS.

AND THEY SAID WE GOT THOSE

IN THE C.I.A.

NOT TRUE.

IT WAS CHANGED IN THE WHITE

HOUSE.

AND THAT -- THE AMERICAN

PEOPLE SHOULD BE CONCERNED

ABOUT IT.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY THINK

MORE ABOUT JOBS AND SO FORTH

AND OTHER THINGS.

LEE, I JUST DON'T KNOW.

UNLESS THE MEDIA WILL SWING

AGAINST THE ADMINISTRATION

ON THIS ONE, IT WILL

PROBABLY DIE, LIKE

EVERYTHING ELSE UNFAVORABLE

TO HIM DIES.

Lee: PAT, WE SHOULD

CLARIFY THE REPORTER YOU'RE

SPEAKING OF AT CBS NEWS IS

CHERYL ATKINSON.

WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE SHE WAS

EVER DISCIPLINED BY CBS, BUT

THERE IS A STORY CIRCULATING

OUT THERE THAT SOME OF HER

BOSSES AT CBS NEWS WERE A

BIT UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE

TYPE OF REPORTING SHE WAS

DOING ON THIS.

BUT WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED ON

THAT.

AUTHORITIES SAY 52-YEAR-OLD

ARIEL CASTRO IS THE MAN

RESPONSIBLE IN A CRIMINAL

CASE THAT HAS SHOCKED THE

NATION.

I JUST SIGNED CRIMINAL

COMPLAINTS CHARGING ARIEL

CASTRO WITH FOUR COUNTS OF

KIDNAPPING AND THREE COUNTS

OF RAPE.

Lee: A 9-1-1 CALL

MONDAY NIGHT FROM AMANDA

BERRY, LED THE POLICE TO

CASTRO'S HOME.

THEY SAY GINA DEJESUS AND

AMANDA BERRY AND MICHELLE

KNIGHT WERE KIDNAPPED.

THE POLICE SAY THE WOMEN

ENDURED YEARS OF RAPE,

I'SLATIONS, AN ISOLATIONS,

AND BEATINGS.

BOSTON'S POLICE COMMISSIONER

SAYS MORE SURVEILLANCE

CAMERAS ARE NEEDED TO FIGHT

THE WAR ON TERROR.

THAT'S THE TESTIMONY HE IS

SCHEDULED TO GIVE CONGRESS.

ED DAVIS IS IS CALLING FOR

TIGHTER SECURITY AT PUBLIC

EVENTS, INCLUDING MORE OF

THESE UNDERCOVER OFFICERS,

TECHNOLOGY, AND THE CAMERAS

YOU SEE THERE.

CAMERAS FROM A RESTAURANT

HELPED IDENTIFY THE TWO

BOSTON BOMBING SUSPECTS.

AT THE SAME TIME, DAVIS SAYS

HE DOES NOT SUPPORT ACTIONS

THAT WOULD MOVE THE POLICE

TOWARDS A POLICE STATE

MENTALITY.

GUN CONTROL ADVOCATES

CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR TOUGHER

RESTRICTIONS, BUT A RECENT

STUDY INDICATES THAT GUN

VIOLENCE IS ACTUALLY

DECREASING IN THE U.S.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

REVEALS GUN-RELATED

HOMICIDES ARE DOWN 39% FROM

THEIR PEAK IN 1993.

ANOTHER REPORT BY THE PURE

RESEARCH CENTER FOUND A DROP

OF 49%.

AND BOTH REPORTS INDICATE

NON-FATAL CRIMES INVOLVING

GUNS WERE DOWN BY 70% OVER

THAT SAME PERIOD.

PAT?

Pat: LEE, IT IS AMAZING

THAT REPORTS AND STUDIES

FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE,

BECAUSE THEY HEAR SO MUCH

ABOUT THIS ON THE NEWS,

THINK THAT GUN VIOLENCE HAS

GONE UP.

WHEN THE ACTUAL FACT IS IT

HAS GONE DOWN.

BUT YOU REMEMBER THAT FAMOUS

VICTIM FOR THE OBAMA

ADMINISTRATION, NEVER LET A

CRISIS GO TO WASTE.

SO THEY'VE HAD A CRISIS, AND

THEY DON'T WANT TO LET IT GO

TO WASTE.

AND THEY'RE PUSHING FOR GUN

LAWS, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE

AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T REALLY

WANT THEM.

>

Lee: LAWMAKERS ON

CAPITOL HILL TURNED THE

PEOPLE'S HOUSE INTO A HOUSE

OF PRAYER.

THEY ASKED FOR HUMILITY AND

WISDOM AS THEY MAKE

DECISIONS THAT AFFECT THE

COUNTRY.

THE EVENT HONORS THE FIRST

INAUGURATION OF GEORGE

WASHINGTON AND HIS DEVOTION

OF DAILY PRAYER.

THERE WERE SPEECHES TO NEWT

GINGRICH AND ERIC METAXAS.

NEARLY 225 YEARS, THEY

WARNED RELIGIOUS LIBERTIES

ARE UNDER ATTACK.

IF WE LOSE RELIGIOUS

FREEDOM, AND IT BEGINS TO

FORCE PEOPLE OF FAITH TO

KEEP THEIR FAITH IN THE

SHADOWS, ONCE THAT HAPPENS,

YOU UNDERSTAND WE CAN NO

LONGER BE AMERICA.

Lee: DERRICK METAXAS,

WHO WAS A GUEST ON "THE 700

CLUB," WAS A GUEST AT THE

STATUTORY HALL ON THE

CAPITAL.

YOU CAN WATCH THE ENTIRE

EVENT BY VISITING OUR

WEBSITE AT CBNNEWS.COM.

WELL, A GROUP OF TEXAS

CHEERLEADERS WILL BE ABLE TO

USE BANNERS WITH BIBLE

VERSES AFTER ALL.

A JUDGE FINALLY RULED IN

THEIR FAVOR IN A COURT CASE

THAT CBN NEWS HAS BEEN

FOLLOWING FOR MONTHS.

AS PAUL STRAND REPORTS, IT

IS A VICTORY FOR RELIGIOUS

FREEDOM.

Reporter: LAST FALL, AN

ATHEIST FILED A COMPLAINT

WITH THE SCHOOL

SUPERINTENDENT, AND SAYS THE

SCRIPTURES ON SPORTS BANNERS

SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.

BUT THE CHEERLEADERS ARGUED

IT WAS A VIOLATION OF THEIR

FREE SPEECH AND FILED A

LAWSUIT.

AND NOW A JUDGE HAS RULED

THE CHEERLEADERS HAVE A

RIGHT TO DISPLAY THEIR

MESSAGES.

WE'RE RELIEVED AND WE'RE

VERY THANKFUL THAT THE JUDGE

RULED IN OUR FAVOR BECAUSE

WE KNOW GOD WAS DEFINITELY

IN THAT, AND WORKING IN HIS

HEART.

Reporter: THIS ALL

BEGAN WHEN THESE CHRISTIAN

CHEERLEADERS GOT TIRED OF

THE SAME OLD NEGATIVE

BANNERS DISPLAYED AT THE

START OF FOOTBALL GAMES.

IN YEARS PAST, THE

CHEERLEADERS HAVE MESSAGES

LIKE BEAT THE BEARS OR KILL

THE COUGARS, THINGS LIKE

THAT.

Reporter: ATTORNEY

JUSTIN WAY A POINT MAN FOR

THE LIBERTY INSTITUTE IN

REPRESENTING THE

CHEERLEADERS.

HE SAYS THEY BEGAN TO

DISPLAY POSITIVE, CHRISTIAN

SCRIPTURES.

TO BE A VIOLATION OF

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND

STATE, THE MESSAGE HAS TO

COME FROM THE GOVERNMENT.

IN THIS CASE, THE MESSAGE

HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE

CHEERLEADERS.

THE CHEERLEADERS CAME UP

WITH THE ITEMS THEMSELVES,

THE CHEERLEADERS WROTE THE

BANNERS THEMSELVES, ON

BANNERS THE CHEERLEADERS

PAID FOR THEMSELVES.

Reporter: IN FACT, THE

SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS TRYING

TO STOP THE CHEERLEADERS,

WHICH ANGERED LIBERTY

INSTITUTE'S GENERAL

COUNSEL.

THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE

WHERE THE GOVERNMENT IS IS

TELLING PEOPLE WHAT THEY CAN

AND CANNOT SAY.

THAT'S NOT AMERICA.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A FIRST

AMENDMENT.

Reporter: THE BATTLE

OVER THE BANNERS LASTED

SEVEN MONTHS, PAUL STRAND,

CBN NEWS.

Lee: INDEED, PAT, A

VICTORY FOR RELIGIOUS

FREEDOM.

Pat: SURE IS.

SOME YEARS AGO, I WAS

PRIVILEGED TO FOUND

SOMETHING CALLED THE

NATIONAL LEGAL ASSOCIATION,

AND IT WAS REPLACED BY THE

AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND

JUSTICE.

BUT THEY HAD A CASE BEFORE

THE SUPREME COURT THAT WAS

ARGUED VERYABLY BY NONE

OTHER THAN JAY SECULO, AND A

7-2 DECISION, WRITTEN BY A

LIBERAL JUDGE, THAT STUDENTS

DID NOT LOSE THEIR RELIGIOUS

FREEDOM AT THE SCHOOLHOUSE

DOOR AND THEY HAD AN

ABSOLUTE FIRST AMENDMENT

RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR FAITH

OPENLY, WITHOUT BEING

RESTRAINED.

AND SO THAT'S THE LANDMARK

SUPREME COURT CASE, NEVER

BEEN OVERTURNED.

7-2 DECISION, MERGINS VERSES

WEST SIDE SCHOOL DISTRICT,

THAT'S THE CONTROLLING LEGAL

AUTHORITY.

SO AS LONG AS THOUGH

CHEERLEADERS -- THEY'RE

EXPRESSING THEIR FAITH AND

THEY WANT TO PUT SCRIPTURE

VERSES UP, GOOD FOR THEM.

NOBODY CAN STOP THEM.

THE ATHEISTS WILL TRY, BUT

WE DID STICK A STEA STAKE

IN THE SAND SOME YEARS AGO,

AND IT'S STILL THERE.

Terry: HATS OFF TO THEM

FOR NOT BEING INTIMIDATED.

UP NEXT, THE SINGER IN A

ROCK AND ROLL BAND WITH

ANOTHER HIDDEN TALENT.

I WOULD HIT A RED LIGHT,

AND I HAD EVERYTHING RIGHT

THERE IN MY CONSOLE, AND I

HAD A SPOON, STIR IT UP, AND

SHOOT IT BEFORE THE LIGHT

TURNED GREEN.

Terry: WATCH WHAT

HAPPENS WHEN HE GETS BUSTED,

AFTER THIS.

*

Pat: WHAT WAS THE

MOVIE, "SEX, DRUGS, AND ROCK

AND ROLL."

THAT'S WHAT THEY TALK

ABOUT.

WELL, BOB CALHOUN WAS ON THE

FAST-TRACK TO ROCK SUPER

STARDOM.

HE COULD ALMOST TASTE IT.

ONLY ONE THING WAS STANDING

IN HIS WAY, HIS FAMILY.

BUT NOT FOR LONG.

BOB LEFT HIS WIFE AND SON

AND NEVER LOOKED BACK.

ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.

*

WE WERE ON OUR WAY.

WE STARTED OPENING UP FOR

BANDS LIKE FOG HAT, PAT

TRAVERSE, THE OUTLAWS, RED

RIDER, AND WE WERE IN

NEGOTIATIONS WITH CBS

RECORDS TO SIGN A RECORD

DEAL.

Reporter: BOB CALHOUN'S

QUICK RISE TO FAME STARTED

IN SMALL-TOWN IOWA.

IN HIGH SCHOOL, HE EXCELLED

IN SWIMMING AND THEATER.

AFTER HIS PERFORMANCE IN THE

MUSICAL "HAIR," BOB WAS

APPROACHED BY A MEMBER OF

THE GROUP HURRICANE, A

POPULAR ROCK BAND IN

FLORIDA.

THE FOLLOWING FRIDAY, I

WENT TO A BAR AND THEY

INVITED ME ON STAGE, AND THE

REST IS HISTORY.

Reporter: BOB'S VOCAL

TALENT WAS JUST WHAT THEY

NEEDED, AND THEIR FAME

STARTED TO GROW.

THERE IS A LINE OUTSIDE

ALL NIGHT TO GET IN.

THE DECK OUTSIDE WAS

PACKED.

IT WAS THE '80s.

I WAS A LEAD SINGER IN ONE

OF THE MOST POPULAR BANDS IN

FLORIDA, EVERYBODY WANTS TO

FEED YOU COCAINE AND

MARIJUANA, AND IT JUST TOOK

CONTROL OF MY LIFE.

MARIJUANA WAS MY DRUG OF

CHOICE.

I BECAME ADDICTED TO

COCAINE, NOT ONLY IN THE

HIGH OF IT, BUT MY MINDSET

WAS IS IF THIS IS A DRUG

THAT I'M GOING TO DO, IT IS

HIGHLY EXPENSIVE.

HOW CAN I DO THIS AND NOT

PAY FOR IT?

AHH, I CAN SELL IT BECAUSE I

DO KNOW SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE

BUYING IT.

SO I STARTED SELLING

COCAINES, SMALL AMOUNTS, TO

GET WHAT I WAS DOING FOR

FREE.

Reporter: THE BAND WAS

OFFERED A RECORD CONTRACT

AND BEGAN TOURING WITH SOME

OF THE TOP ACTS OF THE DAY.

BUT JUST WHEN THE BAND WAS

ABOUT TO BREAK OUT, THEY

IMPLODED.

A COUPLE OF THE BAND

MEMBERS WERE MISSING THEIR

GIRLFRIENDS.

WE HAD A HUGE CONCERT SET

UP, AND TWO DAYS BEFORE THE

CONCERT THE DRUMMER AND OUR

OTHER GUITAR PLAYER LEFT IN

THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.

THERE WAS NO BAND TO COME

BACK TO.

SO THE FIRST THING I DID WAS

WHAT DO I DO I?

I STARTED SELLING COCAINE.

Reporter: BOB MET LISA

IN 1986, AND THEY MARRIED

TWO YEARS LATER.

HIS SON, TIMOTHY, WAS BORN

PREMATURE.

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS

LIFE, BOB BEGAN TO PRAY.

I WAS ON MY KNEES

PLEADING.

I WAS TRYING TO COP A DEAL.

I'LL GIVE UP ROCK AND ROLL,

I'LL GIVE UP DRUGS, JUST LET

MY SON LIVE.

Reporter: TIMOTHY

LIVED, BUT BOB FORGOT HIS

FOX-HOLE PRAYER.

AT THAT TIME IN MY LIFE,

IT WAS ALL ABOUT ME.

AT THAT TIME IN MY LIFE, NOT

KNOWING WHO GOD TRULY IS, I

THOUGHT I COULD PULL A DEAL

WITH HIM AND BACK OUT.

Reporter: AS HIS

ADDICTIONS GOT WORSE, BOB

STARTED STEALING CARS AND

MOTORCYCLES.

IT WAS LIKE A RUSH, AN

ADRENALIN RUSH.

Reporter: BOB JOINED A

NEW GROUP CALLED TRILOGY,

AND HE GOT A SHOCKING OFFER

FROM THE PROMOTOR.

HE SAID, I HEARD YOU WERE

THE GREATEST ROCK AND ROLL

SINGER OF ALL TIMES, BUT I

DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO

MAKE IT.

I THINK YOUR WIFE AND YOUR

SON ARE HOLDING YOU BACK.

YOU CAN COME WITH ME AND YOU

DON'T HAVE TO PAY ANY

RENDER RENT, BUT JUST

SING.

I WENT IT.

I COULD HIT A RED LIGHT, I

HAD SOME IN MY CONSOLE, AND

A SPOON, AND I COULD MIX IT

AND SHOOT IT UP BEFORE THE

LIGHT CHANGED.

I WAS BORN IN GERMANY, OF

AMERICAN PARENTS, ON AN

AMERICAN MILITARY BASE, BUT

FOR SOME REASON THERE WAS AN

IMMIGRATION HOLD ON ME.

Reporter: THE

IMMIGRATION HOLD WUT JUST A

PLOY TO HOLD BOB.

WHAT THEY REALLY HAD WAS

UNDERCOVER SURVEILLANCE THE

LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS OF

HIS LIFE.

HE SAID FOLLOWING YOU WAS

LIKE GOING TO A CANDY

STORE.

YOU LET US TO HUNDREDS OF

PEOPLE IN THE DARK WORLD.

Reporter: HE WAS

SENTENCED TO SEVEN AND A

HALF YEARS IN PRISON FOR

ROBBERY, THEFT, AND

PROBATION VIOLATIONS.

THERE WAS I WAS SITTING

IN COUNTY JAIL, SICK AND

TIRED OF BEING SICK AND

TIRED.

I REMEMBER CALLING MY MOM

AND SAYING, OKAY, I'M

READY.

I'M READY TO FIGURE THIS

OUT.

SEND ME A BIBLE.

Reporter: SO HIS MOTHER

SENT HIM A BIBLE, AND BOB

READ IT.

HE ALSO STUMBLED UPON A

SMALL PAPERBACK BOOK.

I REMEMBER GETTING THE

BOOK ON THE LIBRARY

CART, "MORE THAN A

CARPENTER."

AND I REMEMBER READING IT,

AND I THINK AT THAT MOMENT,

THE HOLY SPIRIT ALMOST

BECAME AWAKE IN ME.

BECAUSE I READ THIS BOOK AND

I THOUGHT, HOW COULD THIS

TELL GENT MANINTELLIGENT

MAN TAKE THESE MEN WHO

DIDN'T BELIEVE, TRAVEL THE

WORLD AND PREACH THE

BIBLE -- THAT LITTLE BOOK

GAVE ME ENOUGH INCENTIVE TO

HAVE ME RE-THINK THIS.

Reporter: BOB DECIDED

TO GO TO THE CHAPEL

BUILDING.

I WALKED IN, AND THERE

WAS A CONVENT, STANDING

BEHIND THE PULPIT, PREACHING

THE WORD OF GOD LIKE HE WAS

BILLY GRAHAM.

MAYBE THERE WERE 50 OR 60

GUYS, AS FAR AS I WAS

CONCERNED, THE ROOM WAS

COMPLETELY EMPTY AND HE WAS

TALKING TO ME, FORGIVENESS,

HOPE, BORN AGAIN.

AND I WILL SAY THIS MAN'S

NAME.

HIS NAME IS IS KEITH WHITE,

DOING LIFE FOR MURDER, FROM

IOWA.

THIS MAN FROM IOWA WAS GOING

TO LEAD THIS MAN FROM IOWA.

HE INTRODUCED ME TO JESUS

CHRIST OUT OF , NOT A STORY

IN A BOOK, NOT A SONG, BUT

FOR JESUS CHRIST TO TAKE ME

FOR WHO I AM AND WHAT I AM,

TO CHANGE ME FROM THE INSIDE

OUT.

I GOT OUT OF PRISON

DECEMBER 31ST, 2001, ON FIRE

FOR GOD.

Reporter: BOB NEVER

TOUCHED DRUGS AGAIN.

TODAY HE IS A SINGLE DAD,

RAISING HIS DAUGHTER,

EDITH.

AND HE AND HIS DAUGHTER LIVE

IN IOWA.

BEING SOLD OUT FOR GOD IS

IS AMAZING.

IF YOU ARE IS SITTING THERE

ANYWAY, I TRIED CHURCH, AND

NOTHING HAS CHANGED, YOU

HAVEN'T TRULY SOLD YOURSELF

OUT.

THIS IS IS NOT OUR

DESTINATION.

WE ARE PROMISED PARADISE AND

ETERNAL ONENESS WITH GOD.

THE STORY IS THE GOD OF THE

UNIVERSE, THE CREATOR OF

ALL, CAN TAKE YOU AS YOU

ARE, WHATEVER YOU'VE DONE,

NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK

YOU'VE DONE, YOU'RE NOT

WORTHY, AND CAN TAKE YOU AND

GIVE YOU HOPE, LIFE, A

FUTURE, AND SHOW YOU THERE

IS A BETTER WAY.

Pat: THE GOD OF THE

UNIVERSE WILL TAKE YOU SHOW

YOU A BETTER WAY.

LISTEN, GOD LOVES YOU.

JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR YOU.

AND YOU CAN BE AT ONE WITH

HIM IF YOU JUST SURRENDER TO

HIM.

HHIS POWER WILL OVERCOME

ANYTHING THAT IS IN YOUR

LIFE, ANY HABIT THAT IS

THERE, WHETHER IT IS DRUGS,

WHETHER IT IS PORNOGRAPHY,

WHETHER IT IS ANGER --

WHATEVER.

HE'LL CLEAN YOU UP AND MAKE

YOU A NEW PERSON.

THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS TO BE

BORN AGAIN.

AND I'M GOING TO ASK YOU

RIGHT NOW -- I WANT YOU TO

PRAY WITH ME, WHEREVER YOU

ARE, RIGHT NOW LET THE LORD

COME INTO YOUR HEART.

PRAY THESE WORDS.

JESUS -- PRAY WITH ME.

JESUS, YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE

DONE, YOU KNOW WHO I AM, YOU

KNOW ALL OF THE PROBLEMS,

BUT RIGHT NOW, LORD, I OPEN

MY HEART TO YOU AND I ASK

YOU TO COME IN.

COME INTO MY HEART, LORD

JESUS.

LIVE YOUR LIFE IN ME.

AND I WILL LIVE FOR YOU.

AND I WILL SERVE YOU ALL THE

DAYS OF MY LIFE.

THANK YOU, LORD.

THANK YOU, LORD.

FATHER, FOR THOSE WHO PRAYED

JUST THEN WITH ME, I ASK FOR

THE POWER OF GOD TO COME

INTO THEIR LIVES.

I ASK FOR THE ANOINTING OF

THE HOLY SPIRIT.

FILL THEM FROM THIS MOMENT

ON.

AMEN.

IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME, I

HAVE SOMETHING I WANT TO GI

YOU.

GIVE YOU.

IT'S A LITTLE BOOKLET.

IT'S CALLED "A NEW DAY."

YOU SAY, I JUST PRAYED WITH

THIS GUY ON TV.

WHAT DO I DO NEXT?

IT TELLS YOU WHAT YOU'VE

DONE AND WHAT IS GOING TO

HAPPEN NEXT.

IT TELLS YOU ABOUT THE

BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

AND IT TELLS YOU ABOUT THE

SECOND COMING OF JESUS.

IT TELLS YOU A LOT OF GOOD

STUFF.

IT IS YOURS IF YOU PICK UP

YOUR PHONE AND CALL IN AND

SAY, I PRAYED WITH HEART AND

-- I PRAYED WITH PAT AND I

GAVE MY HEART TO JESUS.

IT IS A TOLL-FREE CALL.

1-800-759-07001-800-759-0700.

GOD LOVES YOU.

TERRY?

Terry: STILL AHEAD, THE

WHOLE STORY BEHIND THE

CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS

CHRIST.

AUTHOR STEVEN MANSFIELD

UNCOVERS THE CONSPIRACY

BEHIND KILLING JESUS.

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RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Terry: THE CRUCIFIXION

OF JESUS CHRIST STANDS AS

THE MOST BRUTAL AND

UNDESERVING EXECUTION OF ALL

TIME.

BUT IN REALITY, IT WAS EVEN

WORSE.

WATCH THIS.

IT WAS A DEATH THAT

CHANGED THE WORLD FOREVER.

AND THE SYMBOL HAS BEEN WORN

FOR GENERATIONS BY BILLIONS

ACROSS THE GLOBE.

THE GOSPELS GIVE US A BASIC

ACCOUNT OF THE CRUCIFIXION

OF JESUS CHRIST, BUT THEY

DON'T TELL THE WHOLE STORY.

ACCORDING TO BEST-SELLING

AUTHOR STEVEN MANSFIELD,

JESUS' EXECUTION WAS MUCH

MORE INTENSE, GRISLY, AND

VIOLENT.

STEVEN'S NEW BOOK "KILLING

JESUS, THE UNKNOWN

CONSPIRACY BEHIND THE

WORLD'S MOST FAMOUS

EXECUTION," TAKES A UNIQUE

LOOK AT JESUS' EXECUTION.

Terry: PLEASE WELCOME

TO "THE 700 CLUB," STEPHEN

MANSFIELD.

IT IS GREAT TO BE HERE.

Terry: WHAT SPARKED

YOUR INTEREST?

YEAR AGO WHEN I WAS IN AN

UNDERGRADUATE SCHOOL, A

LECTURE CAME, AND HE WAS

TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL

SCIENCE AND MEDICAL FACTS OF

THE CRUCIFIXION.

OF COURSE I READ THE

BIBLICAL ACCOUNTS, BUT NEVER

HAVE I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AS

AN HISTORICAL EVENT.

IT JUST FASCINATED ME.

AND SO I READ WHATEVER I

COULD THROUGH THE YEARS AND

SORT OF MADE IT A PRIVATE

SPECIALTY.

Terry: THE SCRIPTURES

SAY THAT CHRIST WAS MARRED

BEYOND RECOGNITION.

WE READ THAT, BUT IT IS

WORDS ON A PIECE OF PAPER.

YOU SAY THAT IT WAS MORE

THAN WE KNOW?

IT IS HARD.

IT'S LOGICAL, I GUESS, YOU

CAN'T REALLY DESCRIBE ALL OF

THIS GORE IN AN EASTER

SUNDAY SERMON.

IT IS NOT REALLY UP TO

PASTORS TO COMMUNICATE THAT

KIND OF THING.

THINK ABOUT THE SCRIPTURES

TELL US.

THE SUFFERING MESSIAH SAYS

HE COULD SEE HIS BONES

EXPOSED.

HE IS MARRED.

WHEN WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE

BIBLE ALMOST BEGS US TO

UNDERSTAND OF HISTORY, WHAT

A SCORCHING REALLY IS, AND

WHAT THE CRUCIFIXION REALLY

IS -- JESUS WASN'T JUST

WHIPPED A LITTLE BIT AND

HUNG ON A CROSS.

THE SCORAGING IS ABOUT

RIPPING FLESH AWAY.

THE ONE SURVIVOR THAT WE

KNOW OF IN HISTORY THAT

LIVED THROUGH A SCORAGING.

AND HIS ORGANS COULD BE SEEN

INSIDE, AND YET HE LIVED.

WHEN YOU START PUTTING THAT

TOGETHER WITH THE STORY OF

JESUS, AND THESE ARE

HISTORICAL FACTS FROM

JOCEFUS, AND YOU UNDERSTAND

IT IS MUCH MORE VIOLENT THAN

THE STORY WE'RE OFTEN TOLD.

Terry: YOU TALK ABOUT

THE WHY IN YOUR BOOK.

HERE IS A MAN WHO CAME AND

WAS NOTED FOR THE LOVE HE

EXPRESSED FOR OTHERS, WHO

HEALED ALL, WHO CAME TO

THEM, AND WHO HAD A MESSAGE

OF REDEMPTION, BUT HE REALLY

ALSO CAME AND STOOD AND

CHALLENGED THE SYSTEM.

THAT IS A LOT OF IT.

ESPECIALLY IN OUR DAY WHEN

WE TALK ABOUT TELLING TRUTH

TO POWER, AND SPEAKING TRUTH

TO POWER.

THAT'S WHAT JESUS DID.

THE TWO THINGS MOST DIRECTLY

LED TO THIS CRUCIFIXION,

OTHER THAN GOD BRINGING HIM

TO THE POINT OF SACRIFICE.

ONE WAS HE THREATENED THE

CONNECTION BETWEEN THE

JEWISH LEADERS AND THE ROMAN

EMPIRE.

IT IS JUST A SMALL GROUP OF

CORRUPT JEWISH LEADERS, BUT

HE WAS VERY POPULAR WITH THE

PEOPLE.

BUT THE ROMANS LET THIS

SMALL GROUP RULE AND GAVE

THEM A LITTLE BIT OF POWER.

AND WHEN HE CAME AND HE WAS

SO POPULAR AND THE PEOPLE

LOVED HIM SO MUCH, IT LOOKED

LIKE THERE WOULD BE A

POPULAR UPRISING.

THAT WOULD HAVE MADE THE

ROMANS NERVOUS.

AND JESUS WAS SORT OF

CHALLENGING A LITTLE BIT OF

THE TEMPLE, CONTROLLING THE

TEMPLE TRADE.

THAT'S ACTUALLY WERE MOVED

THE MONEY TRADING TABLES.

JESUS IN SPEAKING TO THEM SO

BLUNTLY, CHALLENGED THIS

SORT OF CORRUPTION.

I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD

MAFIA, BUT SOMETHING LIKE A

CORRUPT LITTLE NETWORK.

AND SO ALL OF THAT CAUSED

THEM TO SAY THIS MAN HAS GOT

TO GO.

Terry: YOU MENTIONED --

AND YOU ALLUDED TO THIS A

FEW MINUTES AGO, BUT WHERE

DID YOU DO THE RESEARCH AND

FIND FACT ON THIS, BECAUSE

IT IS FACT.

IT IS FACT.

BUT I HAVEN'T WRITTEN

HISTORY IN THE TRUE SENSE,

BUT IN THE BACK I HAVE A

SECTION ABOUT THE ROMAN

LEADERS AND WRITERS WHO

MENTIONED THE CRUCIFIXION.

I WAS IN A CLASSROOM NOT TOO

LONG AGO IN A STATE

UNIVERSITY, AND I HEARD A

PROFESSOR SAY, REALLY, THERE

IS NOT MUCH EVIDENCE FOR

JESUS.

THAT COULDN'T BE LESS TRUE.

THERE IS LOTS OF EVIDENCE.

I MENTIONED FIVE OR SIX VERY

CLEAR REFERENCE TO THE

CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS UNDER

POPONTIUS PILOT.

IN THE BIBLE WE'RE TOLD HE

IS SCORCHED, HE IS IS CRUS

FIDE.

CRUCIFIED, WELL, WHAT DO

THOSE WORDS MEAN?

WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, IT IS A

MUCH MORE POWERFUL STORY

THAN WHAT IS TOLD.

Terry: WHEN YOU

UNDERSTAND IT, THE

UNDERSTANDING OF THE PRICE

HE PALED FOR U PAID FOR US

IS I MUCH MORE IMPACTFUL.

AND YOU TALK ABOUT HIS

BREATHING, JUST BEING ABLE

TO CATCH AIR.

WHEN I TALK ABOUT THESE

THINGS, I CAN SOUND LIKE A

GUY WHO IS INTERESTED IN

JUST THE GOREY SIDE OF IT.

BUT JESUS WAS SCORCHED.

HE HAD PIECES OF HIS FLESH

RIPPED AWAY.

BONES EXPOSED.

THINK ABOUT THAT.

HE IS PUT ON A CROSS.

IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT HANGING

A MAN ON A CROSS, BUT

CRUCIFIXION IS HE CAN'T

BREATHE WHEN HE IS HANGING

DOWN.

IT IS THE DANCE OF DEATH,

THE ROMANS USED TO CALL IT

IN THE BARRACKS.

AT THE SAME TIME, AND THIS

IS GROSS, BUT HE IS SCRAPING

HIS BACK AT THE SAME TIME.

THESE WERE AGONIZING

THINGS.

AND I THINK IT MADE ME LOVE

JESUS EVEN MORE.

AND IT MADE ME HAVE AN

APPRECIATION FOR THE CROSS.

PAUL SAID IN CORINTHIANS, I

WANT TO KNOW ONE THING AMONG

YOU, CHRIST CRUCIFIED.

Terry: YOU TALK ABOUT

THE FACT THAT SO MANY WEAR

THE SYMBOL OF THE CROSS

WITHOUT REALLY THINKING

THROUGH EXACTLY THE PRICE

THAT WAS PAID.

WHEN PEOPLE READ "KILLING

JESUS IERAS WHA JESUS,"

WHAT DO YOU WANT THAT TO

COME AWAY WITH?

THAT JESUS WAS AN

HISTORICAL FIGURE, AND

HORRIBLE THINGS HAPPENED,

AND ALL OF IT WAS DONE DEDEM

REDEMPTIVELY FOR US.

Terry: WELL, YOU'VE

DONE SOME SOLID RESEARCH ON

BEHALF OF THE REST OF U-AND

US.

AND IT IS A FASCINATING

BOOK, AND ITS CALLED

"KILLING JESUS," AND I THINK

IT WILL TAKE YOU TO THE FOOT

OF THE CROSS AND ALSO

ENLARGE YOUR HEART AND YOUR

GRATITUDE TOWARDS THE ONE

WHO SAVED US.

WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'RE

GOING TO TAKE YOUR E-MAIL

QUESTIONS.

MARY SAYS, "I HAVE THREE

ADORABLE GRANDSONS.

I WOULD BE MORTIFIED IF THEY

WERE KIDNAPPED.

IS IT A SIN TO PLACE A

TRACKING DEVICE ON THEM?"

WE'LL HAVE MARY'S QUESTION

AND MORE WHEN WE COME BACK.

Terry: WE'VE RECEIVED

LOTS OF WONDERFUL E-MAIL

FROM YOU, AND WE WANT TO

TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO ANSWER

SOME OF QUESTIONS THAT HAVE

COME IN.

PAT, THE FIRST ONE IS FROM

MARY, WHO SAYS, "I AM SO

UPSET FOR PEOPLE WHO WERE

KIDNAPPED AND HELD FOR

PEOPLE.

I HAVE THREE GRANDCHILDREN,

AND I WOULD BE HORRIFIED

THAT THEY WERE KIDNAPPED.

IS IT A SIN TO PLACE A

TRACKING DEVICE THEM BEFORE

TOO MUCH DAMAGE IS IS

DONE?"

Pat: YES, MARY, IT

WORRIES ME.

THEY COULD IMPLANT A CHIP

WHEN A CHILD IS BORN, AND

THAT CHIP WOULD GO WITH

HIM.

AND IT COULD STORE ALL OF

THAT DATA ABOUT THE CHILD.

THAT'S THE DANGER, BUT FOR A

LOVING GRANDPARENT, I THINK,

WHY NOT.

Terry: SHE MENTIONS THE

WORD "PERVERT" AND WITH ALL

OF THE PORN YOU FEEL IT IS

NOT NORMAL.

BARBARA SAYS, "JAMES 5: 16

SAYS THE EFFECTIVE PAIR

PRAYER OF A RIGHTEOUS MAN

CAN QUALIFY AS MUCH, AND

WHAT GUIDELINES DO WE FOLLOW

FOR EFFECTIVE PRAYER?"

Pat: I THINK WHAT WE

NEED TO DO IS PRAY FOR THE

GLORY OF GOD.

PRAY FOR THE GLORY OF GOD.

BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK OF

ELIJAH, AND HE IS PRAYING IS

RAINS, AND HE IS PRAYING,

AND IT RAINS.

HE PRAYS AND FIRE COMES DOWN

TO HEAVEN.

BUT HE PRAYS, GOD SHOW THAT

I'VE DONE THIS AT YOUR

WORD.

HE'S WALKING WITH THE LORD.

THAT'S EFFECTIVE PRAYER.

BUT EFFECTIVE IS JUST WHAT

IT MEANS, IT HAS AN IMPACT.

IT HAS AN EFFECT.

AND THAT MEANS YOU'RE

ERNEST.

THE BIBLE SAYS, YOU KNOW,

WHEN PETER WAS CAPTURED, IT

SAYS THE CHURCH PRAYED

STRETCH-OUTEDLY FOR HIM.

THAT'S THE LITERAL GREEK.

THEY WERE JUST SAYING, GOD,

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE AN

ANSWER.

THAT'S EFFECTIVE.

Terry: RUTH SAYS, "HI,

PAT.

MY QUESTION IS: CAN YOU

STAND IN THE GAP FOR AN

UNSAVED SPOUSE BY ACCEPTING

JESUS.

FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN AN

INVITATION IS GIVEN, I WILL

ACCEPT ON BEHALF OF MY

UNSAVED HUSBAND THROUGH

FAITH."

Pat: THAT IS A

BEAUTIFUL SENTIMENT, BUT IT

DOESN'T HAVE A BIBLICAL

BASIS.

Terry: WE HAVE TO COME

ONE BY ONE.

Pat: YOU SURE DO.

YOU CAN'T COME FOR SOMEBODY

ELSE.

PAUL MENTIONED PEOPLE WHO

WERE BAPTIZED FOR THE DEAD.

THE DEAD WAS ALREADY DEAD,

BUT THEY WOULD GO AND GET

BAPTIZED IN THEIR PLACE.

NO, IT DOESN'T WORK.

IT SOUNDS SO SWEET, BUT IT

DOESN'T WORK.

Terry: KATHRYN SAYS, "I

WENT TOW A CHRISTIAN WOMEN'S

MEETING IN DALLAS.

THE GUEST CAME TO ME AND

ASKED IF SHE COULD ANOINT MY

FEET WITH OIL.

I FELT OVERWHELMED AND

CONFUSED, BECAUSE THIS IS

NOT SOMETHING I'M FAMILIAR

WITH, EXCEPT IN THE BIBLE.

WHAT EXACTLY DOES IT MEAN?"

Pat: IT MEANS SHE LIKES

YOU -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT

MEANS.

Terry: I'VE NEVER HAD

HEARD OF ANYBODY DOING

THAT.

Pat: I'VE NEVER HEARD

OF ANOINTING THE FEET.

I'VE HEARD OF WASHING THE

FEET.

YOU ANOINT THE HEAD WITH

OIL.

Terry: IT IS SO HARD

FOR PEOPLE.

I KNOW WHAT THIS WOMAN IS

ASKING, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE,

HOW DO WE KNOW THE REAL FROM

THE UNREAL?

THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO

ARE SELF-APPOINTED IN THINGS

LIKE PROPHET OR SOME OF THE

DIFFERENT THINGS.

Pat: THEIR FRUITS, YOU

SHALL KNOW THEM, AND WHAT IS

THEIR TRACK RECORD.

IF THEY SHOOT THEIR MOUTH

OFF -- THERE IS THIS ONE GAL

WH GUY WHO HAS A LOT OF TV

TIME, AND IT TURNS OUT HE

HAD A PROBLEM WITH HIS WIFE

AND HE HAD AN AFFAIR.

YOU SEE WHAT THE FRUIT

BEHIND THIS KIND OF STUFF.

Terry: AND DON'T YOU

THINK A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE

ARE PUTTING THEMSELVES IN

POSITIONS OF INFLUENCE AND

ATTENTION, AND YOU REALLY

NEED TO QUESTION --

Pat: YOU CAN DOMINATE

SOMEBODY THAT WAY.

I'VE HEARD FROM THE LORD.

I HAVE A MESSAGE FOR YOU.

Terry: THIS IS JOHN WHO

SAYS, "I AM SO SAD FOR

AMERICA.

WE HAVE CRIMINALS LIKE

KERMIT GOSNELL, AND JODI

ARIAS, AND SEX IS DONE WITH

NO RESPONSIBILITY, AND

ABORTIONS KEEP INCREASING.

HOW CAN WE AS CHRISTIANS

DEAL WITH ALL OF THIS

KILLING AND SADNESS.

HAS GOD ABANDONED US?

I ALMOST FEEL HE HAS BECAUSE

THERE IS TOO MUCH TO PRAY

FOR IN THE WORLD."

Pat: YOU KNOW,

CONCENTRATE ON YOURSELF, ON

YOUR FAMILY, AND ON BUILDING

THE CHURCH AROUND YOU AND

BUILDING THE BODY OF

CHRIST.

IF THE BODY OF CHRIST IS

STRONG, IT CAN OVERCOME THE

WORLD.

BUT IF IT IS NOT STRONG, THE

WORLD WILL OVERCOME IT.

AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THE

CHURCH HAS TAKEN ON THE

CHARACTERISTICS OF THE

WORLD.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, OUR

SOCIETY HAS GIVEN UP ITS

BIBLICAL FOUNDATION.

YOU'RE RIGHT IN SAYING IT IS

A TERRIBLE THING.

BUT WHAT DO YOU DO?

YOU LIVE FOR THE LORD.

MAKE SURE YOUR FAMILY LIVES

FOR THE LORD.

AND MAKE SURE YOUR CHURCH

LIVES FOR THE LORD.

YOU BE A LIGHT IN THE MIDST

OF DARKNESS.

Terry: AMY SAYS, "HOW

DO YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE

CONCEALING HATRED IN YOUR

HEART.

I HAVE RECEIVED JESUS AT

SAVIOR AND HAS CAUGHT MYSELF

LYING.

PROVERBS 18 SAYS: WHOEVER

HARBORS HATRED HAS LYING

LIPS.

I DON'T WANT TO HAVE LYING

LIPS.

HOW DO I GET THIS OUT OF MY

HEART?"

Pat: YOU GO TO SOMEBODY

AND YOU SAY IT IS GREAT TO

SEE YOU, AND DON'T WANT TO

SEE THEM AT ALL.

I ENJOYED THAT SERMON.

YOU COME OUT AND SAY, WASN'T

THAT AWFUL.

BUT THAT IS LYING LIPS.

YOU KNOW WHEN YOU HATE

SOMEBODY.

HOW DO YOU KNOW?

YOU KNOW VERY WELL YOU HATE

SOMEBODY.

AND IF THAT PERSON COMES

BEFORE YOU WHEN YOU'RE

PRAYING, YOU NEED TO

FORGIVE.

YOU NEED TO HOLD HIM BEFORE

THE LORD AND FORGIVE THEM.

THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME WE'VE

GOT FORETHESE QUESTIONS, BUT

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Terry: RIGHT NOW WE'RE

GOING TO SHOW YOU A STORY

ABOUT A BOY WHO HAD

EVERYTHING GOING AGAINST

HIM, AND NOT ONLY DID HE

OVERCOME HIS PAST, HE HAS

ALWAYS GROWN TO PAY IT

FORWARD.

WATCH THIS.

16-YEAR-OLD SUCHI IS DOING

REMARKABLY WELL, GIVEN HIS

TRAGIC PAST.

WHEN MY MOTHER DIED, I

DIDN'T WANT TO LIVE

ANYMORE.

I WAS SO SAD THAT I EVEN

STOPPED EATING.

Terry: HE WAS SEVEN

WHEN HIS MOM DIED AND HIS

DAD ABANDONED HIM.

HE WENT TO LIVE WITH HIS

GRANDMOTHER FOR A WHILE, BUT

SOON SHE RAN OUT OF MONEY TO

CARE FOR HIM.

A PASTOR HEARD ABOUT THE BOY

AND CONTACTED CBN.

HE CAME TO LIVE HERE AT THIS

CHRISTIAN CHILDREN'S HOME,

SUPPORTED BY "ORPHANS' PROMISE."

IN FACT, HE HAS GROWN UP

HERE.

I REALLY ENJOY HELPING

THE OTHER, YOUNGER KIDS WITH

CHORES AND OTHER TASKS.

IT FEELS LIKE I AM PART OF A

BIG FAMILY.

Terry: HER SUCHI NOT

ONLY GETS GOOD MEALS AND A

PLACE TO SLEEP, HE IS ALSO

LEARNING ABOUT THE GOD OF

THE BIBLE.

THE LOVE OF GOD IS REAL

HERE.

BECAUSE OF THAT, I PRAYED TO

RECEIVE JESUS AS MY SAVIOR.

IT WAS GOD WHO BROUGHT ME

HERE, AND I WILL SERVE HIM

FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.

THANK YOU, "ORPHANS'

PROMISE," FOR HELPING US TO

HAVE A BRIGHTER FUTURE.

Terry: WHEN YOU JOIN

"THE 700 CLUB," YOU'RE PART

OF THE WORK OF "ORPHANS'

PROMISE," AND MANY OTHER

OUTRAGEOUS AROUND THE

WORLD.

IT IS 65 CENTS A DAY, $20 A

MONTH, TO BECOME A PART OF

THAT.

BUT YOU WILL JOIN AN ARMY OF

PEOPLE, LITERALLY THOUSANDS

AND THOUSANDS, WHO ARE OUT

TO CHANGE THE WORLD, TO

BRING PEOPLE HOPE, TO TEACH

THEM ABOUT THE LOVE OF GOD.

YOU CAN JOIN WITH US TODAY,

IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE IT

BEFORE.

WE WOULD WELCOME YOU INTO

THE FAMILY OF MINISTRIES

HERE.

ALL YOU DO IS CALL THAT

TOLL-FREE NUMBER,

1-800-759-0700.

JUST SAY, I WANT TO JOIN

"THE 700 CLUB."

AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, WOULD

YOU DO IT USING SOMETHING WE

CALL PLEDGE EXPRESS.

IT IS THE ELECTRONIC MONTHLY

GIVING.

NO HASSLE, NO STAMPS, NO

ENVELOPES, YOU CAN STOP AT

ANY TIME YOU WANT.

BUT IT SAVES US SOME

PROCESSING COSTS AND ALLOWS

US TO PUT MORE OF YOUR GIFT

INTO THE LIVES OF PEOPLE

LIKE SUCHI.

SO CALL NOW, 1-800-759-0700

AND SAY YOU WANT TO DO IT

USING PLEDGE EXPRESS.

AND OUR WAY OF SAYING THANK

YOU IS TO SEND YOU "PLEDGE

EXPRESS" AND THESE ARE

TEACHINGS WE GET EVERY MONTH

AND WE THINK YOU'LL BE

BLESSED BY THEM.

Pat: TERRY IS LIKE THE

ADOPTIVE MOTHER OF THE

WORLD.

MEET A FORMER JUDGE AND HER

HUSBAND WHO HAVE 11 ADOPTED

AND 28 FASTER CHILDREN.

WHOA, WHAT A FAMILY.

AND TODAY WE LEAVE YOU WITH

THESE WORDS FROM 1 JOHN: "IF

WE WALK IN THE LIGHT, AS HE

IS IN THE LIGHT, WE HAVE

FELLOWSHIP WITH ONE ANOTHER,

AND THE BLOOD OF JESUS

CHRIST, HIS SON, CLEANSES US

FROM ALL SIN."

AND THAT, BY THE WAY, IS IN

THE GREAT PRESENT, WHICH

MEANS CONTINUALLY CLEANSES

US FROM ALL SIN.

OUR THANKS TO LEE, OUR

THANKS TO TERRY, AND OUR

THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR

BEING WITH US.

"THE 700 CLUB" TOMORROW AT

THE SAME TIME.

BYE-BYE.

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