This week on The Brody File we are joined by Senator Lindsey Graham who discussed the importance of evangelicals in the immigration debate on Capitol Hill. Also, Caitlin Burke reports on the upcoming decision that the Boy Scouts will have to ... ...
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DAVID: THIS WEEK ON "THE
BRODY FILE," LOTS OF FRUSTRATION
ON CAPITOL HILL.
AMNESTY OR NOT.
WE ARE GOING TO TALK ONE ON ONE
WITH A GANG MEMBER, SENATOR
LYNDSEY GRAHAM.
ALSO D-DAY APPROACHING FOR BOY
SCOUTS, WILL THEY ALLOW THEM IN
OR NOT?
WE DON'T STOP LOVING THEM.
DAVID: LIBERAL ALERT, LIBERAL
ALERT.
"WASHINGTON POST" COLUMNIST DANA
MILLBERT.
HE HAS TOUGH WORDS FOR THE
PRESIDENT.
WHATEVER THE AGENDA IS --
DAVID: PLUS CHRIS CRISTY
TURNS INTO SPIDERMAN, WE HAVE
THE VIDEO TO PROVE IT.
WELCOME EVERY TO ANOTHER
AWARD WINNING EPISODE OF "THE
BRODY FILE."
PROUD TO BE THE INNERS OF NINE
EMMY AWARDS.
DAVID, WE ARE NOT AN AWARD
WINNING SHOW.
DAVID: SORRY, FOLKS, I SAID
SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT TRUE.
I AM JUST DOING WHAT THE STATE
DEPARTMENT IS DOING ON BEN
BENGHAZI, SEE ME.
ON TO OUR TOP STORIES.
WE CALL IT CAPITOL HILL VERSION
OF IMMIGRATION FRUSTRATION?
FOLKS IMMIGRATION DEBATE IS
UNDERWAY ON CAPITOL HILL.
WE HAVE A LOT MORE QUESTIONS
THAN ANSWERS.
FOR EXAMPLE, CAN THE SENATE GET
70 VOTES OR MORE TO SHOW
STRENGTH SO THE BILL WOULD BE
ABLE TO PASS THE HOUSE.
WILL THE HOUSE PASS THE BILL?
WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE?
WOULD CONTROVERSY AMENDMENTS
SINK THE BILL.
WHAT IS THE SECRET HAND SHAKE
BETWEEN INFAMOUS GANG OF EIGHT.
JOINING US, SENATOR LINDSEY
GRAM, GANG OF EIGHT.
WE ARE PRETTY CONFIDENT WE
COULDN'T HURT OURSELVES.
PROUD TO HAVE BEEN IN THE GANG
OF EIGHT.
CALL IT WHAT YOU LIKE.
DAVID: WITH ALL THE STRAIGHT
SHOOTERS, YOU ARE ONE OF THEM
FOR SURE.
LET'S GET DOWN TO THE
NITTY-GRITTY, HOW CAN YOU TELL
IF THIS GETS 70 VOTES OR MORE?
THIS IS THE MAGIC NUMBER TO GET
IT THROUGHOUT HOUSE?
I THINK SO.
QUALITY OF THE PRODUCT.
FROM A REPUBLICAN POINT OF VIEW,
AFTER 2012 WHEN YOU GET 27% OF
THE HISPANIC VOTE YOU ASK PEOPLE
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?
CONSERVATIVES ISN'T THE PROBLEM,
2006 UP TO 2012, THE WAY WE
TALKED ABOUT THE PROBLEM HAS NOT
HELP US.
HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO LISTEN TO
YOUR ECONOMIC ARTICLE,
ENTREPRENEURIAL ARGUMENT IF THEY
THINK YOU ARE GOING TO DEPORT
THEIR GRANDMOTHER.
THIS GAY RIGHTS MOVEMENT, IS
THAT A DEAL KILLER.
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL NOT
SUPPORT A BILL THAT TURNS
EFFORTS TO REFORM IMMIGRATION
INTO A SAME-SEX MARRIAGE DEBATE.
THAT IS NOT GOING TO -- THE
MARKET WILL NOT BEAR THAT.
WE'LL HAVE THAT DEBATE APART
FROM IMMIGRATION.
I TOLD MY DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES,
EVANGELICAL COMMUNITY HAS BEEN
SO HELPFUL, WE'LL LOSE THEM AND
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND ME IF WE
TURN THE DEBATE INTO SAME-SEX
BENEFITS.
DAVID: LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT
THE EVANGELICAL MOVEMENT, A ROAD
TO DAMASCUS MOVEMENT, WHAT HAS
BEEN YOUR SENSE ABOUT HOW
CRUCIAL THEY ARE TO ALL OF THIS.
I THINK EVANGELICAL CHURCHES,
CONSERVATIVE POLITICIANS
REALIZE, WE HAVE A RAEM
OPPORTUNITY TO OPPORTUNITY TO
CONNECT WITH THE PEOPLE.
THEY ARE VERY PATRIOTIC.
THIS IMMIGRATION DEBATE HAS HURT
US.
WE NEED TO GET IT BEHIND US.
EVANGELICAL SUPPORT IN SOUTH
CAROLINA HAS CHANGED EVERYTHING
FOR ME AT HOME.
DAVID: I WOULD THINK,
EVANGELICAL COMMUNITY IF THEY
WERE NOT ON BOARD THERE WOULD BE
ALL SORTS OF PROBLEMS?
ABSOLUTELY.
WHEN I HAVE PASTORS COME FORWARD
AND READ PASSAGES FROM THE
BIBLE, WE ARE GOING TO BE
PRACTICAL.
I DON'T THINK SELF-DEPORTATION
WORKS.
WOULD YOU SIT ON THE SIDELINE
AND WATCH YOUR GRANDMOTHER WALK
BACK TO MEXICO IN AN EFFORT TO
SELF-DEPORT 11 MILLION PEOPLE?
THEY HAVE CHILDREN AND
GRANDCHILDREN AMERICAN CITIZENS.
THAT IS NOT A PRACTICAL
SOLUTION.
GETTING PEOPLE INTO OUR COUNTRY
ON OUR TERMS, LEARNING THE
LANGUAGE, GETTING AT THE BACK OF
THE LINE.
EVANGELICAL SUPPORT, THEY WANT
TO BE PRACTICAL AND RECOGNIZE
THESE PEOPLE ARE HUMAN BEINGS.
DAVID: LET ME QUOTE
SHAKESPEARE AMNESTY OR NO
AMNESTY.
CLEAR THIS UP, TWO COMPETING
VIEWS.
AMNESTY IS WHAT WE ARE DOING,
2006, THERE HAS BEEN NO EFFORT
TO FIX IMMIGRATION, 11 MILLION
PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE
DEPORTED THROUGH
SELF-DEPORTATIONS.
YOU'LL HAVE AMNESTY FOREVER
UNLESS YOU ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM.
DAVID: LET US NOT FORGET
ABOUT ANOTHER BIG STORY, WILL
THE BOY SCOUTS BE PRESSURED TO
ALLOW GAY SCOUT MEMBERS TO BE
PART OF THE ORGANIZATION?
IT IS COMING SOON.
KATELYN?
THAT'S RIGHT, DAVID, VERY FEW
NON-RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS THAT
HAVE CAVED TO BE POLITICALLY
CORRECT.
BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA COULD BE
THE NEXT TO FALL.
BOY SCOUTS ARE KNOWN TO
COMMITMENT OF GOD, COMMUNITY.
NOW CONSIDERING A NEW POLICY.
THEY WOULD ALLOW OPENLY TROOP
MEMBERS TO JOIN AND THAT WOULD
COMPROMISE SCOUTING.
WE JOINED SCOUTS, WE LIKE THE
LEADERSHIP MODEL, LIKE WHAT THEY
TEACH AND I THINK IF YOU
INTRODUCE THIS WHOLE HOMOSEXUAL
IDEA, IT BECOMES THE FOCUS, THE
FEAR, THE AWKWARD SITUATION.
IT TAKES AWAY FROM WHAT THE BOYS
ARE THERE FOR.
75% OF THE ORGANIZATIONS ARE
CHARTERED.
WE SPOKE WITH LOCAL PASTORS TO
WHAT THEY THINK THE RESPONSE
SHOULD BE.
JESUS WAS FAITHFUL TO SPEAK
INTO THE LIVES OF PEOPLE.
TRUTH SOMETIMES THEY WEREN'T
PREPARED TO HEAR.
SOMETIMES TRUTH THEY DIDN'T EVEN
KNOW.
HE WOULD DO SO WITH A HEART OF
LOVE AND RESPECT FOR THEIR
VALUE.
CHURCHED CALLED TO BE ENGAGED
WITH ITS CULTURE AND THE LIVES
OF EVERYBODY.
THAT MEANS IN WAYS WE HAVE
UNDERSTOOD IN THE PAST AND WAYS
THEY HAVE YET TO BE PLAYED OUT.
WE HAVE RELATIVES IN THAT
LIFE STYLE, DO WE STOP LOVING
THEM?
NO.
BUT WE HAVE TO TELL THEM THE
TRUTH.
RECENT BOY SCOUTS AMERICA
SURVEY SHOWS MAJORITY OF MEMBERS
SUPPORT KEEPING THE CURRENT
POLICY.
IN 2000, SUPREME COURT RULED THE
ORGANIZATION IS WITHIN ITS
RIGHTS TO BAN OPENLY GAY PEOPLE
FROM PARTICIPATING.
NOW IT IS UP TO 1400 VOTING
MEMBERS OF NATIONAL COUNCIL TO
DECI
DECIDE.
DAVID THE VOTE IS SCHEDULED
FOR MAY 23RD.
DAVID: ALL RIGHT, WE ARE
GOING TO CHECK BACK FOR A FOLLOW
UP.
THIS BOY SCOUTS CONTROVERSY GOT
"THE BRODY FILE" THINKING AND
THAT LEADS TO A "THE BRODY FILE"
COMMENTARY.
LOOK, LET ME STATE THIS UP
FRONT, TWO SONS WHO ARE BOTH
EAGLE SCOUTS.
AS A DAD ON PLENTY OF CAMP OUTS,
I KNOW A THING OR TWO ABOUT THE
BOY SCOUTS.
HERE IS THE DIRTY SECRET.
THE REASON IT IS CALLED
HOMOSEXUALITY BECAUSE MEN ARE
ATTRACTED TO OTHER MEN, NOT
EMOTIONALLY ATTRACTED TO -- WHEN
YOU ARE ON AN OVERNIGHT CAMP
OUT, THAT IS GOING TO MAKE
HETEROSEXUAL FOLKS
UNCOMFORTABLE.
IT IS THE PLAIN TRUTH.
ALL THE TALK IS ABOUT HOW IF BOY
SCOUTS NEED TO BE COLLUSIVE OF
GAY SCOUTS.
HETEROSEXUAL SCOUTS MIGHT FEEL
UNCOMFORTABLE.
NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THAT.
LOOK THE REALITY IS, THE BOY
SCOUTS ARE A PRIVATE
ORGANIZATION.
THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.
WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT TAX
PAYOR FUNDED MONEY HERE, EITHER.
70% OF THE BOY SCOUTS GROUPS ARE
CHARTERED THROUGH FAITH BASED
ORGANIZATIONS OR CHURCHES.
COME ON, EVERYBODY, GIVE THE BOY
SCOUTS A BREAK.
ISN'T WINNING ON THE GAY
MARRIAGE ENOUGH FOR HOMOSEXUAL
ACTIVIST?
APPARENTLY NOT.
WHEN WE COME BACK, STOP THE
PRESSES, ARE THEY READING THE
BIBLE ON CAPITOL HILL?
SOMEONE GIVE ME A SEDATIVE.
WE HAVE THE STORY NEXT.
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DAVID: WELCOME BACK TO "THE
BRODY FILE" EVERYBODY.
FOR YOU LOYAL "THE BRODY FILE"
VIEWERS, NORMALLY THIS SEGMENT
IS RESERVED FOR JENNY AND THE B
BLOCK.
NO JENNY, SORRY.
AS OUR PRODUCER TRACEY WINBORN
DECLARED IN AN E-MAIL, QUOTE,
EVEN JENNY NEEDS TO TAKE A BREAK
FROM THE BLOCK.
HOW TRUE IN DEED.
SHE IS DOING ZUMBA CLASSES AND
NASCAR RACES.
WE HAVE NO IDEA WHERE SHE WAS.
"THE BRODY FILE" HAS TO GO ON.
TIME FOR THIS WEEK ES
EVANGELICAL APP.
WE BEGIN WITH A RARE SIGHTING,
NO NOT BIG VOTE, HOW ABOUT BIBLE
READING MARATHON, 90 CONTINUOUS
HOURS FROM GENESIS TO
REVELATION.
YES, THIS IS ACTUALLY A U.S.
GOVERNMENT-SANCTIONED EVENT.
THERE IS A REAL JOINT
CONGRESSIONAL RESOLUTION.
ATHEISTS ARE CHECKING INTO REHAB
AS WE SPEAK.
OUR "THE BRODY FILE" JOURNALIST
MARK BAUTISTA WAS THERE.
OH LORD, OPEN MY LIPS, MY
MOUTH SHALL SHOW FORTH YOUR
PRAISES.
EVERY BEAST OF THE FOREST IS
MINE AND CATTLE ON A THOUSAND
HILLS.
IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WORD
OF GOD IS IMPORTANT.
FOUNDATION OF THIS COUNTRY THAT
HOLDS SO DEAR.
IT IS PRETTY AWESOME.
I AM A SPIRITUAL PERSON.
IT IS AMAZING THEY ARE OUT HERE.
HEAR MY PRAYER, OH GOD.
I HAVE A DAUGHTER ALMOST
FOUR.
I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT
RETURNING TO CHURCH.
I GREW UP CHRISTIAN.
I HAVE BEEN THINKING OF
RETURNING TO CHURCH FOR HER.
I DEFINITELY WOULD PICK UP A
BIBLE AND START TO READ BECAUSE
OF THIS.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO READ IT
DEVOTIONALLY.
VERY IMPORTANT TO READ IT
PUBLICALLY.
WE KEEP READING.
GIVE EAR TO MY PRAYER, GOD.
DAVID: LET'S MOVE ON TO A FEW
OTHER FAITH BASED STORIES.
REPORTS OUT OF BOSTON, SOME
CLERGY MEMBERS WERE NOT ALLOWED
ACCESS, THEY WERE TURNED AWAY.
THAT HAD TO SET UP PRAYER
STATIONS AWAY FROM THE SCENE,
OY-GEVALT.
SENATORS CAN NOW BE PROSECUTED
FOR SHARING FAITH.
NOW THAT BORN AGAIN WEAR IT ON
YOUR SLEEVE, TIM TEBOW HAS BEEN
CUT, JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS FANS
ARE PETITIONING THE WHITE HOUSE
TO SIGN TEBOW.
WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL ONLINE
PETITION PLATFORM CALLED, WE THE
PEOPLE STATE THAT YOU NEED TO
COLLECT 100,000 SIGNATURES
BEFORE THE WHITE HOUSE IS GOING
TO RESPOND TO YOUR REQUEST.
THINK NEED IT BY MAY 30TH.
THEY HAVE GRAND TOTAL OF 329.
TAKING THE PRESIDENT TO TASK,
CONVERSATION WITH DANA MILLBANK.
THAT IS NEXT.
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DAVID: WELCOME TO "THE BRODY
FILE."
WE SIT DOWN WITH BOTH
CONSERVATIVES AND LIBERALS, WE
INTERVIEWED BARACK OBAMA OBAMA,
HILARY CLINTON, AND HAIRY REED
AND AL FRANKEN.
THIS WEEK WE ARE JOINED BY DANA
MILBANK, COLUMNIST FOR
"WASHINGTON POST." HE COMES AT
THINGS FROM A LIBERAL
PERSPECTIVE AND FUNNY IN HIS
WRITINGS.
IT MAKES FOR GREAT INFORMATIVE
AND ENTERTAINING READ.
HE WROTE A COLUMN CALLED
PRESIDENTIAL BYSTANDER.
HE TAKES A PRESIDENT TO TASK
OVER HOW HIS SECOND TERM IS
PROCEEDING.
100 DAYS INTO HIS SECOND TERMS,
OBAMA LOST CONTROL OF THE AGENDA
IF HE EVER LOST CONTROL IN THE
FIRST PLACE.
TALK ABOUT THAT AS IT RELATES TO
PRESIDENT OBAMA AND SECOND TERM.
WE HAVE A PRESIDENT JUST
ELECTED TO SECOND TERM, HE
SHOULD BE AT A STRONG POINT.
HE CALLED THAT NEWS CONFERENCE
WEREN'T SURE.
IT WAS LIKE IF HE WAS SAYING
LOOK, I CAN'T GET ANYTHING
THROUGH, IT IS ALL A MESS ON
CAPITOL HILL.
I CAN ASK HIM TO DO THINGS,
LOBBY THEM, I CAN'T MAKE THEM DO
THE RIGHT THING.
DAVID: SEEMS LIKE THIS IS HIS
PERSONALITY.
HE IS NOT GOING TO STAND UP AND
DO A JIMMY SMITH THING.
HE KEPT ON IT ALONG TIME.
WHEN HE WANTS TO PUT THE FIGHT
INTO SOMETHING HE WILL.
HE DID IT ON GUN CONTROL
INTERMITTENTLY.
PRESIDENTIAL LEADERSHIP MAY NOT
BE AS POWERFUL A TOOL AS IT ONCE
WAS BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF
PEOPLE ON CAPITOL HILL WITH
INCENTIVE TO DEFY HIM.
IT IS THE STRONGEST THING WE
HAVE GOT.
REGARDLESS OF WHAT PARTY IS IN
POWER.
BEST TOOL IS PRESIDENTIAL
LEADERSHIP.
DAVID: YOU SAID PRESIDENCY,
SOME WHAT OF A DEMISE OF THAT
SECOND TERM.
WHERE IS HE ON THIS LEGACY
SEARCH?
WHAT IS YOUR SENSE?
IT IS STILL VERY EARLY.
IF HE LEAVES OFFICE A FEW YEARS
FROM NOW AND ECONOMY BOOMING AND
SOME HOW MANAGED TO PUT TOGETHER
A BUDGET DEAL, HE COULD BE A
CELEBRATED FIGURE MUCH THE WAY
BILL CLINTON IS TODAY.
DAVID: DO YOU THINK THERE IS
A DISAPPOINTMENT?
DISAPPOINTED THEY DIDN'T GET
MORE ON GUN CONTROL.
SEE IMMIGRATION NOT WORKING ON.
BUDGET THE PRESIDENT PUT FORWARD
I THINK WAS A FAIRLY REASONABLE
DOCUMENT.
HE MADE SACRIFICE ON THE
ENTITLEMENT PLANS.
LIBERALS ARE ABSOLUTELY UP IN
ARMS SAYING HE IS SURRENDERING
BEFORE NEGOTIATIONS.
HE GETS CREDIT FOR DEFYING HIS
OWN BASE.
NOT MUCH FROM THE REPUBLICANS.
HE IS TAKING A STEP.
DAVID: YOUR ARTICLES ARE
FASCINATING, THEY ARE
FACT-BASED, YET THERE IS THAT
HUMOR AS WELL.
YOU ROLL IT ALL INTO ONE.
WHAT IS YOUR PHILOSOPHY?
I LIKE TO COVER WASHINGTON AS
IF I AM A FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT.
YOU CAN RELATE TO THAT IF YOU
LOOK AT THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.
THEY THINK IT IS A FOREIGN
COUNTRY.
NOTHING MAKES SENSE, NOTHING
WORKS QUITE RIGHT, WE ARE SOME
THIRD WORLD CIVILIZATION.
I AM TRYING TO EXPLAIN THAT.
IT IS FUNNY.
IT IS TRAGIC THINGS ARE SO
BROKEN.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO MOAN ABOUT
HOW AWFUL THE SITUATION IS.
YOU ARE GOING TO BE VERY
DEPRESSED AND SECOND, YOU ARE
NOT GOING TO BE VERY INTERESTING
TO READ, YOU ARE GOING TO BECOME
PIAS AND PREACHY.
DAVID: DANA MILBANK ON "THE
BRODY FILE."
ONE THING THEY CAN AGREE ON
CONSERVE TIFRS AND LIBERALS, HE
IS A GOOD DAD.
HE IS NOT A BIG FAN OF KIDS
GETTING TATTOOS.
HE WAS ASKED WHAT WOULD HAPPEN
IF HIS DAUGHTERS WANTED ONE.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: WHAT WE SAID
IF YOU DECIDE TO GET A TATTOO,
MOMMY AND ME WILL GET THE SAME
TATTOO AND GO ON YOUTUBE AND
SHOW IT OFF AS A FAMILY TATTOO.
MY THINKING IS IT IS A WAY TO
DISSUADE THEM.
DAVID: MR. PRESIDENT "THE
BRODY FILE" SALUTES YOU AND
AGREE.
WE ARE BACK IN A MOMENT WITH OUR
OY-GEVALT MOMENT.
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DAVID: WELCOME BACK TO "THE
BRODY FILE."
"THE BRODY FILE" IS THE SON OF
AN EXTERMINATED.
THAT'S RIGHT, MY FATHER WAS A
PEST CONTROL OPERATOR.
HE WAS GOOD.
SO WITH A NOD TO MY LATE FATHER,
HE WOULD HAVE LOVED THIS WEEK'S
OY-GEVALT MOMENT OF THE WEEK.
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IF NEW JERSEY GOVERNOR CHRIS
CHRISTIE ISN'T IN TROUBLE AGAIN,
NO NOT WITH CONSERVATIVES.
HE IS IN TROUBLE WITH THE PETA
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE FOR THE ETHICAL TREATMENT
OF ANIMALS.
ANGRY ABOUT HIS ENCOUNTER WITH A
SPIDER DURING A PHOTO OP WITH
SCHOOL KIDS IN THE GOVERNOR'S
OFFICE.
HAVE A LOOK.
[LAUGHTER].
[APPLAUSE]
DAVID: HIS SPIDERMAN MOVE GOT
THE REACTION FROM PETA.
THEY UNDERSTAND SPIDERS ARE
SCARY, IT CAN PREVENT PEOPLE
LIKE CHRIS CHRISTIE FROM
PONDERING THE WORTH OF A SPIDER.
FOLKS AT PETA, TO LOSE AN 80S
EXPRESSION, TAKE A CHILL PILL.
THAT DOES