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The 700 Club - August 7, 2013

Mother-daughter ministry team Serita & Sarah Jakes share about their outreach to women. Plus, Scotts Sowle’s drug addiction led to a life of homelessness until an encounter with God showed him the love of Christ. Read Transcript


ALL ONE BIG, BLACK

HOLE.

Lee: FROM CITY TO

CITY.

DALLAS, HOUSTON,

LOS ANGELES, SKID ROW, BACK

TO SALT LAKE CITY.

Lee: FROM STREET TO

STREET.

IT JUST WENT DOWNHILL.

Lee: AN ADDICT WITH A

DEATH WISH.

I FOUND MYSELF IN THAT

DARK SPOT, WANTING TO COMMIT

SUICIDE.

Lee: FINDS A REASON TO

LIVE.

MAYBE THERE WAS HOPE FOR

ME.

Lee: FROM THE POTTER'S

HOUSE TO OUR HOUSE.

SIRITA AND JAMES JOIN US

LIVE TODAY ON TODAY'S "THE

700 CLUB."

Pat: WELCOME, LADIES

AND GENTLEMEN, TO THIS

EDITION OF "THE 700 CLUB."

DELIGHTED TO HAVE YOU WITH

US.

WE HAVE SOME THINGS TODAY

YOU WILL NOT SEE IN THE

NEWS, BUT YOU'LL SEE IT ON

THIS NEWS BECAUSE WE WANT TO

BRING YOU THE TRUTH.

FIRST OF ALL, THE WONDERFUL

MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD -- I

UNDERSTAND SENATOR McCAIN

IS GOING TO MEET WITH THE

BROTHERHOOD.

THEY HAD SECRET TORTURE

CHAMBERS IN EGYPT WHEN

MOHAMMED MORSI WAS

PRESIDENT.

AND WE'LL HAVE THE SHOCKING

DETAILS ON THIS PROGRAM

TODAY.

LAST SPRING WE HEARD THAT

MEMBERS OF THE MUSLIM

BROTHERHOOD HAD TORTURED

CHRISTIAN DEMONSTRATORS AT A

MOSQUE IN CAIRO.

HERE IS GARY LANE.

Reporter: THE TORTURE

ALLEGATIONS COME OF NO

SURPRISE TO THESE EGYPTIAN

DEMONSTRATORS.

ALSO NOT SHOCKED, RAYMOND

IBRAHIM.

HE SAYS MANY ISLAMISTS

BELIEVE IT IS OKAY TO

TORTURE AN ADVERSARY.

IT ALL COMES DOWN TO WHAT

IS YOUR INTENTION.

IS YOUR INTENTION TO POWER

ISLAM?

IF IT IS, YOUR EXONERATED.

THE IDEA OF USING TERROR,

VIA TORTURE, TO SUPPORT THE

ISLAMIST AGENDA HAS BEEN

GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.

Reporter: THEY RECORDED

359 TORTURE CASES DURING

PRESIDENT MORSI'S ONE YEAR

IN OFFICE.

THAT COMPARES TO 357 DURING

THE LAST 10 YEARS OF HOSNI

MUBARAK'S RULE.

BOTH THE EGYPTIAN CABINET

AND THE NATIONAL DEFENSE

COUNCIL HAVE CALLED ON

PRO-MORSI DEMONSTRATORS TO

DISBAND THEIR CAIRO

SIT-INS.

THEY SAY IT IS CLEAR

RECONCILIATION CANNOT TAKE

PLACE UNTIL THE INSIGHTMENT

TO VIOLENCE BEGINS.

EGYPTIANS ARE ADAMANT

ABOUT RESTORING THEIR NORMAL

LIFE, AND THIS CANNOT

CONTINUE LONG-TERM.

BUT THERE IS NO DESIRE TO

USE FORCE, IF THERE IS ANY

OTHER AVENUE THAT CAN BE

USED.

Reporter: PRO-MORSI

SUPPORTERS AND OTHER

ISLAMISTS STILL BLAME

CHRISTIANS FOR THE OUSTER OF

THE MUSLIM LEADER FROM THE

PRESIDENCY.

ATTACKS, ESPECIALLY IN UPPER

EGYPT, CONTINUE.

CBN NEWS RECEIVED REPORTS OF

FRESH ATTACKS THAT HAPPENED

AUGUST 3.

MUSLIMS ATTACKED THREE

CHRISTIAN VILLAGES.

THEY PLANTED A BLACK

AL-QAEDA FLAG IN SULHAG.

EGYPTIAN CHRISTIANS WANT

WASHINGTON TO PRESSURE THE

INTERIM GOVERNMENT TO DO

MORE TO PROTECT THEM.

WHILE MOST EGYPTIANS SAY

THEY LOVE AMERICANS, THEY

HAVE LITTLE LOVE FOR

PRESIDENT OBAMA AND U.S.

AMBASSADOR TO EGYPT, ANN

PATTERSON.

THERE IS THIS FEEL THAT

IS VERY HOSTILE TO THE

AMERICAN ADMINISTRATION,

BECAUSE THEY SEE THEM,

RIGHTFULLY SO, AS VERY BIAS

TOWARDS THE MUSLIM

BROTHERHOOD AND THE IS

ISLAMISTS IN GENERAL.

ESPECIALLY ANN PATTERSON.

IT IS VERY INTERESTING TO

SEE HOW THIS WILL DEVELOP ON

A DIPLOMATIC FRONT.

Reporter: JOHN KERRY

SUGGESTED PRESIDENT OBAMA

ELECT AMBUR TO THE NEW

RULING.

GARY LANE, CBN NEWS.

Pat: BOY, THE CHICKENS

ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST IN

TERMS OF SOME OF THE OBAMA

MISTAKES.

BUT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,

THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IS

BAD NEWS.

IT IS BAD NEWS.

AGAIN, FOR JOHN McCAIN TO

GO OVER AND SAY, WELL, LET

ME NEGOTIATE WITH THE

BROTHERHOOD.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO

NEGOTIATE WITH FANATICS WHO

SAY MOHAMMED IS OUR LEADER.

THE QURAN IS OUR

CONSTITUTION.

JIHAD IS OUR WAY.

THEY WANT TO ESTABLISH A

MUSLIM CALIPHATE.

THAT'S WHAT THEY TRIED TO

DO.

AND THEY'LL DO IT WITH

JIHAD.

AND WHY DO WE THINK WE'RE

GOING TO SIT DOWN AT A

MEETING AND TALK THEM OUT OF

IT?

NOT A CHANCE.

WELL, THE MILITARY AND THE

F.B.I. AND OTHER BRANCHES OF

GOVERNMENT HAVE BEEN TOLD

YOU MUST BE POLITICALLY

CORRECT.

YOU CANNOT OFFEND MUSLIMS.

SO A LAWSUIT IS COMING ABOUT

THAT MIGHT TAKE THE VEIL OFF

OF SOME OF THIS NONSENSE

THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON.

AND THE QUESTION IS: DID THE

MILITARY'S POLITICAL

CORRECTNESS PLAY A ROLE IN

THE SHOOTINGS AT FORT HOOD?

LEE WEBB HAS MORE ON THAT

STORY FROM THE CBN NEWS

ROOM.

Lee: PAT, THE ARMY

MAJOR RESPONSIBLE FOR THE

FORT HOOD MASSACRE SAYS HEñ

DID IT FOR ISLAM.

NANIDAL HASAN IS ACTING AT

HIS OWN ATTORNEY, FOR HIS

TRIAL THAT BEGAN YESTERDAY.

SOME ARE SUING THE U.S.

GOVERNMENT, AND THEY CLAIM

THE MILITARY'S POLITICAL

CORRECTNESS ALLOWED THE

MASSACRE TO HAPPEN.

HERE IS CHARLENE ISRAEL.

Reporter: WITNESSES SAY

ARMY PSYCHIATRIST NIDAL

HASAN OPENED FIRE AT FORT

HOOD NEARLY FOUR YEARS AGO.

HE IS ACCUSED OF KILLING 13

PEOPLE AND WOUNDING MORE

THAN 30 OTHERS.

NOW ON TRIAL, HE DENIES NONE

OF THAT.

IN A BRIEF OPENING STATEMENT

ON MONDAY, HE SAID,

QUOTE,"THE EVIDENCE WILL

CLEARLY SHOW THAT I AM THE

SHOOTER.

SHOOTER."

HE CALLED HIMSELF A MUSLIM

HOLY WARRIOR.

HE SAID HE DURING THE WAR

HE EVENTUALLY SAW HIMSELF ON

THE WRONG SIDE, AND SWITCHED

SIDES, CONSIDERING HIM

AMMUH.

HE SAID WE ARE TRYING TO

ESTABLISH A PERFECT

RELIGION.

I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY MISTAKES

THAT I MADE IN THIS

ENDEAVOR.

THIS IS JUST COLD-BLOODED

MASSACRE.

AND IF YOU BELIEVE IN

CAPITAL PUNISHMENT AND YOU

DON'T VOTE FOR THE DEATH

PENALTY IN THIS CASE, I

DON'T KNOW WHAT CASE YOU

WOULD VOTE FOR IT.

Reporter: AS HASAN

PROUDLY ADMITS CARRYING OUT

THE ATTACK, SURVIVORS OF THE

ATTACK REMAIN FURIOUS.

A GROUP OF 148 VICTIMS AND

THEIR FAMILIES ARE SUING THE

U.S. GOVERNMENT FOR

ESSENTIALLY ALLOWING THE

ATTACK TO HAPPEN.

THEIR LAWYER TOLD THE SUNDAY

TELEGRAPH, QUOTE,"BECAUSE OF

WHERE HE CAME FROM AND HOW

HE PRAYED TO HIS GOD, THEY

PROMOTED HIM AND SET HIM

LOOSE, AND IGNORED HIS VERY

OPEN, VERY OBVIOUS

JIHADISM."

TWO YEARS BEFORE THE ATTACK,

HASAN TOLD A CROWD OF

MEDICAL COLLEGE STUDENTS

THAT THE U.S. WAS WAGING WAR

ON ISLAM.

IN ANOTHER INCIDENT, THE

F.B.I. SPOTTED E-MAIL

EXCHANGES BETWEEN HASAN AND

TOP al-QAEDA TERROR ANWAR

al-AWLAKI.

THE VICTIMS SAY IT IS TIME

FOR THE MILITARY TO MEET ITS

RESPONSIBILITIES TO THOSE

HARMED BY ITS NEGLIGENCE.

CHARLENE ISRAEL, CBN NEWS

NEWS.

Lee: THE JUSTICE

DEPARTMENT HAS FILED CHARGES

AGAINST THE U.S. ATTACK ON

THE EMBASSY IN BENGHAZI.

CHRIS STEVENS AND THREE

OTHERS DIED LAST YEAR.

THE CRIMINAL COMPLAINT LISTS

AN UNSPECIFIED NUMBER OF

SUSPECTS.

IT INCLUDES AKMED ABU

KHATTALAH.

REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN

DARRELL ISSA SAYS CRIMINAL

CHARGES ARE NOT ENOUGH IN

THIS CASE.

HE SAYS THAT THE ATTACKER

SHOULD BE APPREHENDED

IMMEDIATELY.

Pat: I CAN'T BELIEVE

IT.

THERE IS A THING THAT GOES

ON IN LIBYA, AND IT IS PART

OF A WAR.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING

THEM TO SOME COURT IN NEW

YORK AND DO A TRIAL, WHERE

THEY CAN INTERVIEW WITNESSES

AND HAVE THE PROTECTION OF

THE UNITED STATES

CONSTITUTION.

IT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL.

IT IS A WAR.

THESE GUYS ARE WARRIORS.

THEY'RE TRYING TO KILL US.

THEY KILLED OUR PEOPLE.

THEY SAID THEY HAD A WARRANT

AGAINST OSAMA BIN LADEN, AND

WE FINALLY GOT OUT THERE AND

KILLED HIM.

BUT WE CERTAINLY DIDN'T DO

IT BY THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT

SENDING A FEW F.B.I. AGENTS

TO ARREST HIM.

THIS WHOLE THING IS

RIDICULOUS.

BUT THAT IS PART OF

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.

WE CAN'T CALL THIS A WAR ON

TERROR.

WE CAN'T CALL THESE PEOPLE

EXTREMISTS.

WE CAN'T SAY THEY'RE MUSLIM

EXTREMISTS.

WE CANNOT SAY BECAUSE OF THE

TEACHING OF THE QURAN, THESE

PEOPLE WANT TO GO OUT AND

KILL US.

WE CAN'T IDENTIFY THAT.

AND AS I'VE SAID BEFORE AND

I SAY IT AGAIN, WOULDN'T IT

HAVE BEEN HORRIBLE DURING

WORLD WAR II IF WE WERE

FORBIDDEN TO SAY NAZIS WERE

BAD PEOPLE AND ADOLPH HITLER

WANTED TO DESTROY US.

WOULDN'T THAT HAVE BEEN

TERRIBLE IF DURING THAT WAR,

IF WE WERE UNABLE TO

MOBILIZE AGAINST AN ENEMY?

WELL, WE'VE GOT AN ENEMY.

AND THE ENEMY WANTS TO

DESTROY OUR WAY OF LIFE, OUR

CIVILIZATION.

HERE IS LEE.

Lee: PAT, A KEY

SECURITY FUNCTION IN

OBAMACARE IS MONTHS BEHIND

SCHEDULE.

AND THE NEW LAW IS SET TO GO

INTO EFFECT IN LESS THAN TWO

MONTHS.

WHEN AMERICANS BEGIN

ENROLLING IN HEALTH

INSURANCE EXCHANGES

OCTOBER 1st, THEIR

IDENTITY, INCOME, AND OTHER

SENSITIVE INFORMATION WILL

BE FUNNELLED THROUGH A

FEDERAL DATA HUB.

BUT REUTERS REPORTS THE

SAFETY OF THIS TECHNOLOGY

HAS NOT BEEN TESTED PROPERLY

BECAUSE OF THE MANY

MISDEADLINES.

TESTS TO CERTIFY THE

SECURITY HAVE BEEN PUSHED

BABR BAC BACK TO

SEPTEMBER 30th.

FORMER PRESIDENT GEORGE W.

BUSH IS EXPECTED TO LEAVE A

DALLAS HOSPITAL TODAY.

DOCTORS PLACED A STINT IN

HIS HEART YESTERDAY AFTER

DISCOVERING A BLOCKAGE IN

HIS ARTERY DURING HIS ANNUAL

PHYSICAL.

A STINT BLOCKED OPEN CLOGGED

ARTERIES.

MR. BUSH IS SAID TO BE IN

GOOD SPIRITS AND EXPECTED TO

RESUME HIS NORMAL SCHEDULE

LATER THIS WEEK.

CHILDHOOD OBESITY IS ON THE

DECLINE IN THIS COUNTRY.

THERE IS A DECREASE IN AT

LEAST 18 STATES, BUT THEY

WARN THAT RATES ARE STILL

WAY TOO HIGH.

ONE IN EIGHT PRE-SCHOOLERS

IN THE U.S. IS OBESE.

THEY ARE FIVE TIMES MORE

LIKELY THAN OTHER CHILDREN

TO BE HEAVY AS ADULTS.

THAT MEANS A GREATER RISK OF

HIGH CHOLESTEROL, HIGH BLOOD

SUGAR, AND EVEN MENTAL

HEALTH PROBLEMS.

Pat: MAYOR BLOOMBERG IS

PROBABLY REJOICING, BECAUSE

THEY'RE NOT DRINKING

SUPER-SIZED COKES.

Wendy: I THOUGHT THEY

WERE STILL APPEALING THAT?

Pat: MAYBE THIS OTHER

REDUCTION IS FROM SOMETHING

ELSE.

MAYBE PARENTS ARE GETTING

INTELLIGENT.

WENDY, A LITTLE KID CAN'T

EAT ANYTHING THEIR PARENTS

DON'T GIVE THEM.

THEY CAN'T DO IT, BECAUSE IT

IS NOT AVAILABLE.

Wendy: BUT THEY USE

SUGAR TO BRIBE THEM.

Pat: IF YOU HAVE SUGARY

CEREALS, READ THE LABELS.

Wendy: THE OTHER THING

IS, PAT, THEY'RE SITTING ON

THEIR COMPUTERS AND iPODS

AND KINDLES, AND THEY'RE NOT

GETTING OUTSIDE AND PLAYING

LIKE WE USED TO.

Pat: THAT'S RIGHT.

PUSH A BUTTON.

JOHNNIE, LET'S EXERCISE.

WE'RE GOING TO GO TOSS A

FOOTBALL.

BUT IT MEANS THAT DADS AND

MOMS HAVE GOT TO GO OUT WITH

THEM.

WE USED TO SING A SONG,

DON'T SEND YOUR KIDS TO

SUNDAY SCHOOL; GET OUT AND

GO WITH THEM.

THE TREND, APPARENTLY, IS A

LITTLE MORE ENCOURAGING, BUT

NOT A GREAT DEAL.

WHAT IS NEXT?

Wendy: AHEAD, THE FIRST

LADY OF THE POTTER HOUSE.

FIND OUT HOW THEIR STORIES

OF PERSONAL HEARTBREAK ARE

HELPING TO HEAL THOUSANDS OF

WOMEN.

BUT, FIRST, HE WAS A RISING

STAR IN A POLITICAL PARTY OF

ANTI-SEMITES, UNTIL HE HAD A

SHOCKING CONVERSATION WITH

HIS 94-YEAR-OLD

GRANDMOTHER.

HEAR WHAT SHE TOLD HIM WHEN

WE COME BACK.

Pat: WE HEAR ABOUT

THESE STRANGE THINGS FROM

TIME TO TIME, PEOPLE WHO

THINK THEY ARE SOMEBODY

ELSE.

AND THEY'VE EVEN GOT A SHOW,

"DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE?"

I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS KIN TO

HIM.

JIMMY CARTER SAID NI FAMILY

MY FAMILY IS FROM VIRGINIA,

AND ONE OF THEM WAS HANGED

FOR BEING A HORSE THIEF.

IMAGINE ONE DAY OUT OF THE

BLUE, YOU FIND OUT YOU'RE

NOT THE PERSON YOU THOUGHT

YOU WERE.

IN FACT, YOU'RE THE VERY

THING THAT YOU HATE.

WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT

HAPPENED TO ONE MAN IN

BUDAPEST.

DALE HERD HAS THIS

REMARKABLE STORY OF THIS

MAN'S CRISIS.

Reporter: HE WAS ONCE A

RISING STAR IN ONE OF

HUNGARY'S LARGEST AND MOST

CONTROVERSIAL POLITICAL

PARTIES.

YOBIK.

HE WAS ON A TRAJECTORY TO

LEAD THIS PARTY ONE DAY.

I JOINED IN 2003, WHEN

THE PARTY FOUNDATIONS WERE

BEING BUILT.

I WAS A MEMBER FOR NINE

YEARS.

I WAS VICE PRESIDENT FOR SIX

YEARS.

AND IN THE EUROPEAN

PARLIAMENT SINCE 2009.

Reporter: HE HAS ALSO

BEEN BRANDED AN ANTI-SEMITE,

BUT IN OUR INTERVIEW, HE

DISAGREED.

WHEN I ENTERED YOBIK, I

WAS KIND OF INDIFFERENT

TOWARDS JEWS.

I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT JEWS.

I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT THE

HOLOCAUST.

I DIDN'T CONSIDER THE

HOLOCAUST AS A TRAGEDY FOR

THE HUNGARIAN PEOPLE.

I READ A LOT OF ANTI-SEMITIC

LITERATURE.

Reporter: BUT HE WAS

THE LEADER OF A PARTY ALMOST

UNIVERSALLY LABELLED

ANTI-SEMITIC.

AND AT THE VERY LEAST, HE

STILL DIDN'T LIKE JEWS AND

WAS SUSPICIOUS OF THEM.

BUT THAT WOULD ALL CHANGE

WHEN HE WOULD LEARN

SOMETHING ABOUT HIMSELF THAT

TURNED HIS WORLD UP SIDE

DOWN.

SNAAD WAS A JEW.

RUMORS BEGAN SWIRLING ON THE

INTERVIEW THAT HE HAD JEWISH

ROOTS.

SO HE WENT TO TALK TO HIS

94-YEAR-OLD GRANDMOTHER, WHO

NEVER SAID SHE WAS JEWISH.

AND SHE OPENED UP AND SHE

TALKED ABOUT HER LIFE, AND

HOW SHE WAS SENT TO

AUSCHWITZ, AND HOW HER WHOLE

FAMILY WAS ANNILHILATED.

Reporter: HOW DID THIS

CHANGE YOUR VIEW OF THE

HOLOCAUST?

I WAS SHOCKED.

FIRST OF ALL BECAUSE I

REALIZED THE HOLOCAUST

REALLY HAPPENED.

Reporter: NOT SURE WHAT

HE SHOULD DO NEXT, HE FIRST

TRIED TO HIDE HIS

JEWISHNESS, AND ACT LIKE

NOTHING HAD HAPPENED, BUT

EVENTUALLY REALIZED HE COULD

NOT STAY IN YO BIK.

I REALIZE I CAN'T TAKE

PART IN ANY ORGANIZATION

THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH

ANTI-SEMITISM.

AND AFTER MY JEWISH ORIGINS

WERE DISCLOSED, THEY REALLY

DIDN'T WANT TO SEE ME IN THE

PARTY.

Reporter: WHAT DO YOU

DO WHEN YOU DISCOVER YOU'RE

ONE OF THE VERY THINGS YOU

HATED.

FOR HIM, YOU CHANGE.

HE CONTACTED A LOCAL RABBI,

WHO FIRST THOUGHT IT WAS A

JOKE.

WHEN I MET FIRST WITH

SNAAD, I HAD MIXED

FEELINGS.

BECAUSE ON THE ONE HAND, I

WAS SITTING ACROSS SOMEBODY

WHO WAS SEEN FOR YEARS AS

ONE OF THE MAIN FIGURES OF

THE YOBIK PARTY.

AND ON THE OTHER HAND, I WAS

SITTING ACROSS FROM A BROKEN

PERSON WHO HAD REALIZED WHAT

HE HAD DONE, AND HAD COME TO

A SITUATION WHERE HE FIGURED

HE HAS TO CHANGE, BUT HE

DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO CHANGE.

Reporter: SNAAD

STARTING ATTENDING

SYNAGOGUE, AND ADMITS AT

FIRST SOME MEMBERS TREATED

HIM LIKE A LEPER.

IT IS VERY INTERESTING TO

SEE HOW SOME PEOPLE LOOKED

AT IT.

ON THE ONE HAND, THEY TOOK A

STEP BACK AND THEY WERE

SHOCKED.

Reporter: AND WOULD

LITERALLY LEAVE THE

SYNAGOGUE WHEN HE WALKED

IN.

BUT SOME BEFRIENDED HIM, AND

HE STARTED TAKING CLASSES AT

THE SYNAGOGUE, LEARNING

HEBREW AND LEARNING THE

MEETING OF KOSHER AND

SABAD.

HOW MUCH OF YOUR LIFE HAS

CHANGED SINCE YOU LEARNED

YOU WERE A JEW.

IT CHANGES EVERYTHING.

IT IS LIKE BEING REBORN.

AND THE CHANGES ARE STILL

HAPPENING.

I HAD THIS VALUE SYSTEM

SINCE I WAS 30, AND I HAD TO

ADMIT IT WAS ALL WRONG AND

HAD TO FIND THE WILL TO

CHANGE.

Reporter: HE ALSO

BECAME A POLITICIAN WITHOUT

A PARTY, BUT HAS CONTINUED

TO SERVE IN THE EUROPEAN

PARLIAMENT AS AN

INDEPENDENT.

AS A POLITICIAN, I NOW

WANT TO DEFEND HUMAN RIGHTS

FOR EVERYONE.

I AM AWARE OF MY

RESPONSIBILITY, AND I KNOW I

WILL HAVE TO MAKE IT RIGHT

IN THE FUTURE.

Reporter: ONE OF THE

HIGH POINTS OF HIS NEW LIFE

WAS TRAVELLING THIS YEAR TO

ISRAEL WITH HIS WIFE, AND

VISITING THE HOLOCAUST

MUSEUM AND THE WAILING

WALL.

WHEN I LANDED IN ISRAEL,

AIRPORT SECURITY ASKED ME A

LOT OF QUESTIONS.

AND WHEN THE GUARD ASKED ME,

ARE YOU A JEW?

THEN FOR THE FIRST TIME IN

MY LIFE I COULD SAY YES.

Reporter: WHAT HAS IT

BEEN LIKE LEARNING HOW TO BE

JEWISH?

JUST TO FEEL LIKE YOU'RE

ON THE RIGHT WAY

SPIRITUALLY, AND YOU CAN GET

CLOSER TO GOD, IT'S A WHOLE

NEW FEELING FOR ME THAT I'M

DOING THE RIGHT THING.

MY LIFE HAS BEEN FULL OF

INCREDIBLE MIRACLES, BUT I

BELIEVE EVERYONE WHO CHOOSES

THE WAY OF GOD SEES

MIRACLES.

Reporter: DALE HERD,

CBN NEWS IN BUDAPEST,

HUNGARY.

Pat: WHAT AN AMAZING

STORY.

THERE WAS SOME REALLY

HORRIBLE THINGS DURING THE

HOLOCAUST IN HUNGARY.

THE JEWS WERE QUITE A LARGE

POPULATION.

THEY WERE ROUNDED UP AND

SLAUGHTERED, SHIPPED OUT TO

AUSCHWITZ AND THOSE OTHER

PLACES.

Wendy: THANK GOODNESS

FOR HIS 94-YEAR-OLD

GRANDMOTHER.

ISN'T IT AMAZING, IT NEVER

CAME UP.

SHE NEVER TALKED ABOUT IT.

I GUESS IT WAS TABOO.

I GUESS SHE WANTED TO FORGET

ABOUT IT.

Pat: SHE PROBABLY

REALIZED WHAT PAIN HE WOULD

ENCOUNTER.

WENDY, WHEN I WAS OVER THERE

IN THE EAST COUNTRIES, I

COULD NOT BELIEVE THE LEVEL

OF ANTI-SEMITISM.

THE JEWS ARE ALMOST -- HAVE

BEEN WIPED OUT IN COUNTRIES

LIKE ROMANIA.

MAYBE A FEW THOUSAND, AND

YET THERE IS VE VIRULENT

ANTI-SEMITISM.

Wendy: AND I DON'T KNOW

HOW PEOPLE CAN SAY THE

HOLOCAUST NEVER HAPPENED.

LIKE HE SAID, I REALIZED THE

HOLOCAUST REALLY HAPPENED.

Pat: THAT IS THE

PREVAILING LINE, OH, IT

DIDN'T HAPPEN.

IT IS A JEWISH MYTH.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN.

YOU'VE GOT SOME MORE GOOD

NEWS ON "THE 700 CLUB."

YOU'RE WATCHING "THE 700

CLUB," AND HERE IS WENDY.

Wendy: INDEED.

COMING UP, A PROFESSIONAL

CYCLIST WITH A RACING DRUG

ADDICTION.

OUTSIDE OF PHOENIX,

ARIZONA, AND IT WAS SUPPOSED

TO BE A PREMIERE EVENT FOR

NOT JUST RACING, BUT FOR

SPONSORS, AND I DIDN'T EVEN

SHOW UP.

RIDING A BIKE AND DOING

HEROIN JUST DIDN'T MIX TOO

WELL.

Wendy: SEE HOW THIS

FORMER ATHLETE SURVIVED FIVE

YEARS OF LIVING ON THE

STREETS.

Pat: SOME ATHLETES HAVE

A WONDERFUL FUTURE IN FRONT

OF THEM, AND SCOTT SOW WAS

ONE OF THEM.

HE HAD A HUGE FUTURE IN

FRONT OF HIM AS A

PROFESSIONAL CYCLIST UNTIL

THE DAY HE FAILED TO SHOW UP

FOR A RACE.

WHY?

HE COULD NO LONGER HIDE HIS

RUN-AWAY DRUG ADDICTION.

AND FROM THAT DAY FORWARD,

HE COULDN'T EVEN RIDE A

BIKE.

IT JUST WENT DOWNHILL.

I STARTED LIVING ON THE

STREETS IN DALLAS.

I LIVED ON THE STREETS IN

HOUSTON.

I WENT FROM THERE TO

LOS ANGELES, DOWNTOWN, AND

LIVED AT SKID ROW THERE, AND

BACK TO SALT LAKE CITY.

Reporter: BUT LIFE

WASN'T ALWAYS LIKE THIS FOR

SCOTT SOUL.

AT ONE POINT HE WAS RISING

IN THE RANKS AS A

PROFESSIONAL CYCLIST.

I STARTED WINNING, SO I

THOUGHT I COULD JUST GO OUT

AND START CELEBRATING.

IT JUST WENT FROM ONE

CELEBRATION TO SITTING IN A

BAR AND STARTING TO USE

DRUGS ALL OF THE TIME.

I COULDN'T EVEN GET BACK ON

A BIKE.

I MEAN, I WOULD TRY, BUT

RIDING A BIKE AND DOING

HEROIN JUST DIDN'T MIX TOO

WELL.

OUTSIDE OF PHOENIX, ARIZONA,

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A

PREMIERE EVENT FOR NOT JUST

RACING, BUT FOR SPONSORS,

AND I DIDN'T EVEN SHOW UP.

I NEVER WOULD BE ABLE TO GET

ANOTHER SPONSOR AFTER THAT.

IT WAS ALL ONE BIG, BLACK

HOLE.

Reporter: SCOTT BEGAN

LIVING ON THE STREETS,

MOVING FROM CITY TO CITY,

STRUGGLING WITH HIS DRUG

ADDICTION.

BUT AT A UNIVERSITY LIBRARY,

HE FOUND HE HAD A SURPRISING

TALENT.

MANY OF THE HOMELESS

WOULD GO TO UNIVERSITIES,

WHETHER IT IS THE LIBRARY OR

WHETHER IT IS COMPUTERS.

I WAS ABLE TO LEARN HOW TO

WEB DESIGN BY TEARING DOWN

WEBSITES AND REBUILDING

THEM.

THEY STARTED ALLOWING ME TO

COME IN AND SIT IN CLASSES.

AS TIME PROGRESSED AND I WAS

GETTING BETTER AND I WAS

MAKING MONEY, THEY COULDN'T

UNDERSTAND WHY I WAS STILL

ON THE STREETS.

AND I WOULDN'T TELL THEM

THAT I WAS HAVING A DRUG

PROBLEM.

I WOULD FIGURE OUT A WAY TO

HIDE IT ALL OF THE TIME.

I HAD HOOKED UP WITH AN

INDIVIDUAL WHO HAD AN eBAY

STORE, AND I STARTED HELPING

HIM OUT TO GROW THE

BUSINESS, AND I STARTED

MAKING MONEY.

IT PUT ME IN A COMFORTABLE

SPOT OF SAYING, I'M

SUCCEEDING AGAIN.

I CAN GO CELEBRATE AGAIN.

Reporter: BUT SCOTT'S

NEW SUCCESS COULDN'T PULL

HIM OUT OF HIS DRUG

ADDICTION.

IT TOOK ME, LIKE, THREE

OR FOUR DAYS TO GO THROUGH A

PAYCHECK.

I JUST FOUND MYSELF IN THAT

DARK SPOT.

THE THOUGHTS OF WANTING TO

COMMIT SUICIDE IF I DIDN'T

FIND SOME HELP.

THERE WAS A COMMUNITY GROUP

THAT MET ON TUESDAY NIGHT.

AND I JUST WALKED IN, AND

THEY ALL PUT THEIR ARMS

AROUND ME AND LOVED ME.

Reporter: THE NEXT

MORNING SCOTT WAS ADMITTED

INTO A RECOVERY PROGRAM.

HE GOT CLEAN, BUT WAS STILL

DEALING WITH HIS PAST.

THE FIRST DAYS YOU'RE IN

A BLACKOUT PERIOD, SO YOU

HAVE NO CONTACT, AS FAR AS

E-MAIL OR PHONE OR ANYTHING

OF THAT SORT.

SO I WAS UP LATE AT NIGHT.

NORMALLY ALL OF YOUR CASE

WORKERS WERE GONE.

WHEN I SAW THE LIGHT, I

SAID, OKAY, YEAH, I'M OKAY.

SO I WALKED IN AND I SAT

DOWN AND I TOLD MY CASE

WORKER WHAT WAS GOING ON IN

MY LIFE.

ANTOINE GAVE ME A STORY IN

GENESIS ABOUT JOSEPH AND

ASKED ME TO READ IT.

IT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING.

I SAT DOWN AND READ IT THAT

NIGHT.

I READ IT THE NEXT DAY.

THE THING THAT REALLY STRUCK

ME WAS JOSEPH'S BROTHERS

COMMITTED SO MANY SINS

AGAINST HIM, YET HE WAS

STILL ABLE TO FORGIVE THEM.

AND I COULD RELATE TO THAT

PART OF BEING THOSE BROTHERS

BECAUSE I HAVE COMMITTED SO

MANY SINS IN MY LIFE.

AND I WAS, LIKE, WOW, IF

JOSEPH CAN FORGIVE HIS

BROTHERS FOR DOING WHAT THEY

HAD DONE, MAYBE THERE WAS

HOPE FOR ME.

AND THAT WAS THE MOMENT THAT

I ACTUALLY GOT ON MY KNEES

AND GAVE MY LIFE TO CHRIST.

EVERY MORNING, EARLY IN THE

MORNING, I WOULD WAKE UP AND

GO TO THE WORKOUT ROOM.

I KNEW THERE WAS NOBODY ELSE

WITHIN THE ROOM, BUT I WAS

JUST SITTING THERE AND JUST

CLEARLY RECOGNIZING GOD.

WHEN AN ARM REACHED AROUND

ME AND GRABBED AHOLD OF MY

SHOULDER AND JUST SQUEEZED

IT.

WHEW!

IT SENDS CHILLS DOWN ME

RIGHT NOW.

THIS HUG JUST CAME.

AND THEN IT WASN'T WORDS.

IT WAS A WHISPER OF A WIND

THAT WAS I LOVE YOU.

AND I KNEW AT THAT MOMENT

THAT THAT WAS HIS PRESENCE

THERE.

AND IT WAS SOMETHING I

NEEDED, AND IT IS SOMETHING

WE ALL NEED, TO UNDERSTAND

HE LOVES US ALL OF THE TIME,

AND NOT JUST PART OF THE

TIME.

Reporter: SCOTT FINALLY

HAD FOUND THE PEACE HE

LONGED FOR, BUT NOW HE

NEEDED A PURPOSE.

HE FOUND INSPIRATION FROM

HIS TIME ON THE STREETS.

ABOUT FIVE YEARS BEFORE I

CAME HERE TO SEATTLE, I WAS

LIVING ON THE STREETS.

I NEEDED A PAIR OF WORK

BOOTS TO BE ABLE TO GO TO

WORK.

I HAD A TEMPORARY JOB.

AFTER 30 DAYS OF ASKING AN

INDIVIDUAL FROM ONE OF THE

ORGANIZATIONS CAME TO ME AND

SHE HAD TEARS IN HER EYES AS

SHE WAS EXPLAINING THIS.

SHE SAID, WE GET CLOTHING,

WE GET FOOD, WE GET

BLANKETS, WE GET HYGIENE

KITS, BUT WE JUST NEVER GET

FOOTWEAR.

MOST PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND

IT, BUT WHEN YOU'RE ON THE

STREETS, THERE ARE TIMES

WHEN YOU MAY NOT BE OUT OF

YOUR SHOES FOR LITERALLY

DAYS.

IT STUCK WITH ME.

Reporter: IN 2010,

SCOTT STARTED THE NON-PROFIT

REDEEMING SOLES.

HIS MISSION IS TO USE

FOOTWEAR TO SPREAD THE

GOSPEL.

TODAY WE'RE DOWN TO

50,000 PAIRS OF SHOES.

IT IS NOT SO MUCH THE

FOOTWEAR FOR ME.

THAT IS JUST AN AVENUE TO

HAVE THEM ASK ME A QUESTION,

HOW DID YOUR LIFE CHANGE?

AND ONCE THEY ASK THAT, THE

BIG, HUGE SMILE COMES ACROSS

MY FACE.

AND I GO, LIKE, GOD, AND

THAT HE DOES CARE, AND HE

DOES CARE ABOUT US ALL AND

ALWAYS WILL.

GIVE HIM A CHANCE.

Pat: HE CARES ABOUT

YOU.

THE BIBLE SAYS CAST ALL YOUR

CARES UPON HIM BECAUSE HE

CARES FOR YOU.

IT'S SO HARD TO BELIEVE THAT

GOD CARES FOR YOU.

YOU KNOW, YOU'VE DONE

TERRIBLE THINGS.

WE'VE ALL DONE TERRIBLE

THINGS.

WE'VE DONE THINGS WE'RE

ASHAMED OF.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO BACK

THROUGH YOUR LIFE AND WHEN

YOU SEE THE STUFF THAT

YOU'VE DONE, PEOPLE YOU'VE

HURT AND LIVES THAT MAY HAVE

BEEN DAMAGED BECAUSE OF YOU,

AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO

YOURSELF, HOW YOU'VE

DISOBEYED GOD.

AND GOD SAYS, DO YOU

UNDERSTAND I'M GOING TO

FORGIVE YOU ALL OF THAT?

I'M LITERALLY GOING TO

FORGIVE IT ALL IF YOU WILL

COME TO ME AND LET ME TAKE

YOU AND CLEAN YOU UP AND

MAKE YOU THE PERSON I WANT

YOU TO BE.

IT'S SO SIMPLE.

THAT'S WHY IT IS CALLED GOOD

NEWS.

IT ISN'T SOMETHING YOU NEED

A THEOLOGICAL DEGREE TO

FIGURE OUT.

IT ISN'T SOMETHING WHERE

YOU'VE GOT TO GO TO SCHOOL

AND STUDY.

IT IS A RELATIONSHIP WITH

THE ONE WHO CREATED YOU.

WHO IS REACHING OUT TO YOU

RIGHT NOW, AND HE SAYS, I

LOVE YOU, CHILD.

YES, YOU'VE BEEN

UNFAITHFUL.

YES, YOU'VE COMMITTED

ADULTERY OR YOU'VE BEEN

SEXUALLY ACTIVE WHEN YOU

SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN.

YES, YOU'VE STOLEN SOMETHING

THAT DIDN'T BELONG TO YOU.

YES, YOU'VE DONE ALL OF

THESE THINGS.

BUT I AFFIRM ONE THING, THAT

I LOVE YOU AND I WILL

FORGIVE YOU ALL OF THAT IF

YOU'LL JUST COME TO ME AND

LET ME MAKE YOU THE PERSON I

WANT YOU TO BE.

I'LL GIVE YOU A LIFE THAT

YOU CAN'T BELIEVE.

JOY UNSPEAKABLE AND FULL OF

GLORY.

SO RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WANT

IT, I'M HERE FOR THE PURPOSE

AT THIS MOMENT OF GIVING YOU

AN INVITATION.

YOU CAN BE PART OF THE

KINGDOM OF GOD.

IF YOU WANT THAT, JUST BOW

YOUR HEAD.

DON'T GO ANYWHERE.

JUST BOW YOUR HEAD RIGHT

NOW.

PRAY THESE SIMPLE WORDS.

JESUS, I KNOW YOU'VE DIED

FOR ME, LORD.

AND, JESUS, I KNOW THAT YOU

ROSE FROM THE DEAD THAT I

MIGHT LIVE.

AND SO, LORD, RIGHT NOW I

COME TO YOU.

AND I SAY, TAKE ME JUST AS I

AM.

TAKE ME, LORD.

AND MAKE ME PART OF YOUR

KINGDOM.

I RECEIVE YOU AS SAVIOR AND

MAKE YOU LORD OF MY LIFE.

THANK YOU, FROM THIS MOMENT

ON, JESUS.

I'M YOURS.

FATHER, FOR THOSE WHO

PRAYED, LET THE POWER OF GOD

COME INTO THEIR LIVES IN THE

NAME OF JESUS.

TOUCH THEM.

AMEN.

IF YOU PRAYED THAT PRAYER, I

WANT TO HELP YOU, GET YOU

STARTED.

I HAVE SOMETHING.

WE'VE HAD IT AROUND FOR A

WHILE, BUT IT HAS SOME

POWERFUL TRUTH IN IT.

IT IS ABOUT 73 MINUTES OF

VERY CONCENTRATED TEACHING

ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE JUST

DONE.

A LITTLE COMPACT DISC.

YOU CAN PUT IT IN YOUR C.D.

PLAYER AND LISTEN TO IT IN

YOUR CAR, OR WHEREVER YOU

ARE.

WE'LL GIVE THIS TO YOU

FREE.

JUST GO TO YOUR PHONE, CALL,

AND SAY, LISTEN, I PRAYED

WITH PAT AND GAVE MY HEART

TO THE LORD.

"A NEW DAY."

THERE IS THE TOLL-FREE

NUMBER, 1-800-759-0700.

IT'S EASY TO REMEMBER, 759-0700.

CALL RIGHT NOW.

IT WON'T COST YOU ANYTHING.

NOBODY IS LOOKING FOR ANY

MONEY FROM YOU.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CALL

AND I WANT TO GIVE YOU

SOMETHING.

SO CALL, AND THE ANGELS OF

HEAVEN ARE REJOICING BECAUSE

OF WHAT YOU JUST DID.

WELL, YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE

POTTER'S HOUSE, THIS

EXTRAORDINARY CHURCH, AND A

GUY NAMED T.D. JAKES.

HE IS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN

PREACHER WHO IS SOMETHING

ELSE.

HE REALLY IS SOMETHING.

HE ALSO HAS A VERY LOVELY

LADY AND A VERY LOVELY

DAUGHTER, AND WENDY IS GOING

TO INTRODUCE THEM TO US TO

FIND OUT WHAT THE OTHER SIDE

OF THE JAKE'S FAMILY HAS

GOING ON FOR THEM.

WENDY?

Wendy: I SURE AM.

COMING UP, FIRST LADY JAKES

AND HER DAUGHTER JOIN US,

AND THEY TALK ABOUT TAKING

OVER DOWNTOWN DALLAS WITH

THEIR UPCOMING MEGAFEST.

THEY'LL TELL YOU ALL ABOUT

IT LATER, ON TODAY'S "700

CLUB."

WELCOME BACK TO THE "THE

700 CLUB."

PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS

CANCELLED IT UPCOMING SUMMIT

MEETING WITH VLADIMIR

PUTIN.

THAT DECISION REFLECTS U.S.

ANGER OVER RUSSIA HARBORING

EDWARD SNOWDEN.

HE LEAKED INFORMATION ABOUT

THE NATIONAL SECURITY

AGENCY'S ELECTRONIC

SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM.

THE WHITE HOUSE IS ALSO

FRUSTRATED WITH MOSCOW'S

POSITIONS AND OTHER KEY

ISSUES, LIKE MISSILE DEFENSE

AND HUMAN RIGHTS.

THE PRESIDENT WILL STILL

ATTEND THE ECONOMIC SUMMIT

OF 20 NATIONS IN ST.

PETERSBURG.

SAMUEL LAMB, A CHRISTIAN

HEALER, PASSED AWAY AT THE

AGE OF 88.

HE WAS ARRESTED FOR HIS

CHRISTIAN FAITH IN MAO,

CHINA, IN THE 1950s.

HE SPENT 50 YEARS IN

CHINESE LABOR CAMPS.

AFTER HE RELEASE, HE BECAME

ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL

LEADERS OF CHINA'S

UNDERGROUND CHURCH

MOVEMENT.

MORE PERSECUTION, MORE

GROWTH, IS WHAT HE LIKED TO

TALK ABOUT.

YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE

LATEST NEWS BY GOING TO

CBNNEWS.COM.

PAT AND WENDY WILL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Wendy: WELCOME BACK.

SHE'S AFFECTIONATELY KNOWN

AS FIRST LADY JAKES.

AND SHE HAS BEEN MARRIED TO

BISHOP JAKES FOR NEARLY 30

YEARS.

BUT SHE AND HER DAUGHTER,

SARAH, HAVE QUITE A STORY OF

THEIR OWN.

TAKE A LOOK.

Reporter: BISHOP T.D.

JAKES HAS BEEN A POWERHOUSE

IN PROMOTING THE GOSPEL

SINCE 1979, BUT HE IS NOT

THE ONLY ONE IN HIS FAMILY

REACHING PEOPLE WITH A

MESSAGE OF HOPE.

SIRITA JAKES SUFFERED WITH

HER OWN SELF-WORTH, BUT HER

FAITH IN GOD AND THE LOVE OF

HER HUSBAND HAS HEAL HER

HEART.

SHE HAS MIN MINISTERED TO

THOUSANDS OF WOMEN.

TODAY SHE AND HER DAUGHTER

OFFER ENCOURAGEMENT FOR

HURTING WOMEN WHO WANT TO BE

FREE FROM PAIN AND

SUFFERING.

Wendy: AND PLEASE

WELCOME BACK TO "THE 700

CLUB," SIRITA AND SARAH.

WELCOME, LADIES.

THANK YOU.

Wendy: SIRITA, YOU'RE A

WEST VIRGINIA GIRL, LIKE

ME.

I'M FROM CHARLESTON, AND YOU

WERE RAISED ABOUT AN HOUR

AWAY.

AND I DID NOT KNOW YOU WERE

A COAL MINER'S DAUGHTER.

I'M PROUD TO BE A COAL

MINER'S DAUGHTER.

SO WE HAVE THE COAL MINER'S

DAUGHTER AND THE MINISTER.

Wendy: VERY HUMBLE

YEARS.

DURING YOUR TEENAGED YEARS,

YOU WENT THROUGH A LOT OF

HEARTACHE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW

YOUR STORY.

YOUR VERY OWN BELOVED

BROTHER WAS MURDERED.

YES.

I WAS IN COLLEGE, ACTUALLY.

AND MY OTHER BROTHER CAME

AND GOT ME.

HE SAID, WE NEED TO GO HOME

BECAUSE RICKY HAS BEEN

SHOT.

I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS FATAL

UNTIL I GOT HOME AND I SAW

MY MOTHER'S FACE, AND I

REALIZED THAT HE WAS GONE.

AND IT WAS THE MOST HORRIFIC

MOMENT, I BELIEVE, IN MY

LIFE.

Wendy: SIRITA, THAT

GRIEF LED YOU INTO THE ARMS

OF A BOYFRIEND THAT WASN'T

VERY GOOD FOR YOU.

NO, NOT AT ALL.

BUT AT THE TIME, HE WAS A

PERSON I THOUGHT WOULD HELP

ME REAP VENGEANCE.

WHICH IS NOT A GOOD THING,

BUT I WASN'T BORN AGAIN.

SO I THOUGHT THIS WOULD KIND

OF BE A CATALYST FOR ME TO

KIND OF ACTUALLY GET BACK TO

MY BROTHER'S KILLER.

AND YOU KNOW -- BUT IT

WASN'T GOOD FOR ME.

HE BECAME INCREASINGLY

VIOLENT TOWARDS ME.

AND SO GOD RESCUED ME.

TOOK ME BACK HOME TO MY

MOMMY, AND THE REST WAS

SMOOTH SAILING FROM THAT

POINT ON.

Wendy: ACTUALLY, YOU

ENDED UP GOING TO CHURCH,

AND EVENTUALLY YOU ENDED UP

MEETING A YOUNG MAN THAT WE

NOW KNOW AS THE BISHOP.

AS THE BISHOP.

Wendy: HOW DID YOU GUYS

MEET?

WELL, YOU KNOW, I FEEL

LIKE A STALKER, BUT WE

STARTED DOING SECRET PAL

CARDS.

Wendy: SECRET PAL

CARDS?

YOU GO TO THE HALLMARK

STORE, AND I WOULD SIGN IT,

AND IT'S FROM A SECRET

ADMIRER, AND I WAS

ENCOURAGING HIM IN

MINISTRY.

AND FINALLY MY PASTOR'S WIFE

INTRODUCED ME TO HIM.

AND HE SAID, DO YOU KNOW

WHERE A SINGLE MAN COULD GET

A HOME-COOKED MEAL.

AND I SAID I WILL HAVE TO

ASK MY MOM BECAUSE I TOTALLY

COULDN'T COOK.

SO HE CAME TO EAT DINNER,

AND THEN WE STARTED DATING.

Wendy: DOES HE KNOW YOU

WERE THE SECRET PAL NOW?

HE DOES.

I'M STILL THE SECRET PAL,

OKAY?

[LAUGHTER]

YEAH, ALWAYS.

Wendy: SARAH, LET'S

TALK ABOUT YOU.

YOU ARE 24.

WHEN I FIRST MET YOU, I

THOUGHT YOU WERE, LIKE, 17.

YOU LOOK SO YOUNG.

WHAT IS AMAZING ABOUT YOU IS

YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF

HEARTACHE FOR YOUR YOUNG

AGE.

YOU

HAD A BABY OUT OF

WEDLOCK AT 14.

I DID.

Wendy: WHAT WAS THAT

LIKE?

CERTAINLY BEING BISHOP

JAKE'S DAUGHTER MADE IT A

LOT MORE INTENSE THAN MAYBE

SOMEONE WHO DIDN'T HAVE TO

DO IT IN FRONT OF 30,000

CHURCH FAMILY MEMBERS.

BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY, IN

ALL OF MY DIFFERENT HEART

BREAKS LIKE ALL WOMEN AND

PEOPLE GO THROUGH, I LEARNED

A VALUABLE MESSAGE ABOUT WHO

I AM, AND THAT GRACE CAN

FIND US NO MATTER WHO WE

ARE.

Wendy: DID YOU KEEP THE

BABY?

YES.

MY SON IS 10 NOW, AND I HAVE

A DAUGHTER WHO IS THREE.

WHEN YOU HAVE A SON AT A

YOUNG AGE, A LOT OF PEOPLE

SAY YOU'LL NEVER KNOW HOW

YOUR CHILD WILL TURN OUT,

AND YOU'RE STILL GROWING,

BUT GOD HAS REALLY BLESSED

ME.

HE IS A WONDERFUL YOUNG MAN

AND ON FIRE FOR GOD.

Wendy: AMAZING.

AND YOU ALSO WENT THROUGH A

DIVORCE.

THAT HAD TO BE

HEARTBREAKING.

BOTH OF YOU MEET SO MANY

WOMEN AS PART OF POTTER'S

HOUSE, AND HEARTBREAK IS

EVERYWHERE, ISN'T IT?

YES.

YES.

Wendy: WHAT DO YOU TELL

WOMEN WHEN YOU MINISTER TO

THEM?

WHAT KIND OF MESSAGE DO YOU

HAVE FOR THEM, SIRITA?

ONC ONE OF THE THINGS I

REALIZED, ONCE YOU'VE BEEN

CHOSEN AND YOU'VE BEEN

CALLED, YOU GO THROUGH A LOT

OF DIFFICULT TIMES, BUT IT

IS NOT JUST FOR YOU.

IT IS FOR THE PEOPLE YOU

LEAD.

SO LEADERS GO FIRST THROUGH

A LOT OF THINGS.

SO I'LL BE ABLE TO TELL THEM

I KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT I'VE

LEARNED TO BE CONTENT NO

MATTER WHAT STATE I FOUND

MYSELF IN BECAUSE I KNEW

THAT CHRIST WAS ULTIMATELY

IN CHARGE OF MY LIFE.

I GET TO SHARE WITH THEM

FROM THE MEEK BEGINNINGS, NO

LIGHTS, NO WATER, NO FOOD,

NO CLOTHES, NO SHOES, YOU

KNOW.

AND THEN I GET TO SHARE WITH

THEM BUT GOD -- BUT GOD

ULTIMATELY HAD A PLAN FOR

OUR LIVES.

AND PEOPLE WHO KNEW THE COAL

MINER'S DAUGHTER CAN'T

BELIEVE WHERE WE ARE NOW,

AND PEOPLE NOW WHERE WE ARE

CAN'T BELIEVE THERE WAS SUCH

A HUMBLE BEGINNING.

AND HE ALSO REMINDS US THAT

OUR STEPS HAVE BEEN ORDERED

BY HIM.

Wendy: LET'S TALK ABOUT

MEGAFEST.

YOU'RE GETTING READY TO TAKE

OVER DOWNTOWN DALLAS WITH

MEGAFEST LATER THIS MONTH.

WHAT IS IT ALL ABOUT?

WE'RE TRYING TO BRING ALL

OF THE FAMILY TOGETHER.

WE'RE KIND OF CLOSING OUT

SUMMER, AND WE'VE HAD A LOT

OF TIME -- I'VE SPENT A LOT

OF TIME WITH MY CHILDREN,

BEFORE WE START EVEN GOING

INTO THE SCHOOL YEAR AND THE

NEW YEAR, GOD WILL

CONSECRATE OUR LIVES AND OUR

CHILDREN'S LIVES.

WE'RE CALL IT "TOGETHER

AGAIN."

THEY'RE GOING TO TRUST MOM

AND I TO DO SOME GIRL TALK.

BECAUSE WE GET TO CUT UP AND

HAVE A LOT OF FUN.

I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT

MESSAGE IS TO TAKE THAT

FEELING THAT WE HAVE WHEN

WE'RE SURRENDERED BY

THOUSANDS OF BELIEVERS, THAT

STRENGTH WE GAIN THERE, AND

TAKE IT INTO OUR COMMUNITIES

AND OUR HOMES FIRST AND

REALLY LET THE GOOD NEWS

SPREAD.

IT IS SO AMAZING, BECAUSE

WE'LL HAVE MANPOWER, THE

CONFERENCE FOR MEN, AND A

CONFERENCE FOR WOMEN, AND

MEGA YOUTH FOR YOUTHS 13 TO

17, AND WE HAVE MEGA KIDS,

AND SO WE'LL

HAVE BOUNCE

HOUSES, AND FOR THE FIRST

TIME, WE'RE HAVING AN

INTERNATIONAL FILM FESTIVAL

BECAUSE YOU KNOW AS THE

FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY IS

GOING INTO ALL OF THE

WORLD.

WE'RE TAKING OVERBROAD WAY,

WE'RE TAKING OVER

TELEVISION, AS WAS PROVED

WITH THE BIBLE SERIES, AND

THEN WITH FILM.

AND WE HAVE INCREASED THE

VIEWERSHIP OF FAMILIES LIKE

PG-13.

I SAW YOUR HUSBAND IN

"JUMPING THE BROOM."

I GOT A CHANCE TO WATCH IT

ON TV, AND IT WAS

FANTASTIC.

AND EVEN DURING THE FILM

FESTIVAL, WE'LL BE DOING

"THE BLACK NATIVITY

NATIVITY," IN ANGELA

BASSETT.

JOEL

AND VICTORIA OSTEEN

WILL BE THERE.

1-800-BISHOP 2.

Wendy: LADIES, I WISH

WE HAD MORE TIME.

WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK.

Wendy: ABSOLUTELY.

FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THE

UPCOMING

POTTER'S HOUSE

MEGAFEST, YOU CAN LOG ON TO

cbn.com, AND

DON'T FORGET

THE DATE, AUGUST 29th

THROUGH 31ST IN DALLAS.

IF YOU CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF

SIRITA AND SARAH, THERE IS

MORE.

WE HAVE A WEB EXCLUSIVE

INTERVIEW WITH THEM.

GO TO cbn.com AND CLICK ON

THE "IN THE GREEN ROOM"

LINK, AND YOU'LL SEE EVEN A

FUNNIER SIDE THAN YOU SAW

HERE.

WE'LL BE BACK.

PAT?

Pat: VERY INTERESTING.

YOU KNOW, BISHOP JAKES IS

EXTRAORDINARY.

WE HAD A BIG TENT MEETING UP

HERE, AND I'M TELLING YOU,

THE PEOPLE JUST THRONG TO

HEAR HIM.

HE WAS SO DYNAMIC.

AND I HAD THE JOY OF

SPEAKING AT THE DEDICATION

OF THE POTTER'S HOUSE DOWN

THERE IN DALLAS.

IT IS A MARVELOUS CHURCH.

AND T.D. JAKES IS A DEAR

FRIEND, A GREAT GUY.

COMING UP NEXT, WE'LL BE

TAKING YOUR E-MAIL

QUESTIONS.

ONE OF OUR VIEWERS SAYS, "I

AM 18 YEARS OLD AND HAVE

RECENTLY FACED THE FOLLOWING

ISSUES SOCIALLY.

WHAT DOES THE BIBLE HAVE TO

SAY ABOUT INTERRACIAL

MARRIAGES?"

WE'LL "BRING IT ON" WITH

THIS QUESTION AND MORE WHEN

WE COME BACK.

Wendy: WELCOME BACK TO

"THE 700 CLUB."

IT IS TIME TO "BRING IT ON,"

PAT.

ARE YOU READY?

Pat: I'LL LET YOU KNOW

AFTER YOU ASK THE QUESTION.

Wendy: THIS VIEWER

SAYS, "I'M 18 AND HAVE

RECENTLY FACED A FOLLOWING

ISSUE SOCIALLY.

WHAT DOES THE BIBLE HAVE TO

SAY ABOUT INTERRACIAL

MARRIAGES.

I KNOW THE BIBLE SAYS GOD

LOOKS AT MAN'S HEART AND NOT

OUTWARD APPEARANCE.

BUT MY FAMILY HAS BEEN

AGAINST INTERRACIAL

MARRIAGES BECAUSE OF THE

PROBLEMS IT CAN CAUSE FOR

CHILDREN.

TODAY IT SEEMS TO BE

ACCEPTED."

Pat: THE BIBLE IS VERY

CLEAR ABOUT BEING UNEQUALLY

YOLKED.

GOD IS INTERESTED IN A

PERSON'S HEART, NOT THE

COLOR OF THEIR SKIN.

THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE, THE

COLOR OF THEIR SKIN.

THE BIBLE IS VERY CLEAR,

DON'T BE UNEQUALLY YOLKED.

BUT WHAT YOUR PARENTS HAVE

SAID, IT IS A PROBLEM,

INTERRATIONAL CHILDREN.

IT GETS TO BE A DIFFICULT

THING.

HERE IN VIRGINIA, A FEW

YEARS AGO, THERE USED TO BE

A LAW CALLED

MISINTEGRATION.

I REMEMBER A GIRL I USED TO

GO TO SCHOOL WITH, AND SHE

CAME BACK AND WAS MARRIED TO

A VERY PROMINENT CHINESE,

AND SHE ACTUALLY WAS

BREAKING THE LAW OF VIRGINIA

BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T GET

MARRIED TO SOMEBODY OF

ANOTHER RACE.

ALL OF THOSE LAWS ARE GONE.

THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF

MARRIAGES OF VARIOUS GROUPS,

AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT

IS.

BUT IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT

FOR THE CHILDREN OF SOME OF

THOSE UNIONS.

BUT THAT HAS TO DO WITH A

CULTURAL THING, NOT

BIBLICAL.

BIBLICAL HAS TO DO WITH THE

RELIGIOUS BELIEFS AND THE

HEART OF PEOPLE, NOT THEIR

SKIN COLOR.

Wendy: MICHELLE WRITES,

"I HEARD A PREACHER SAY

THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF

GIVING, TITHING, GIVING AND

TWO OTHER TYPES.

HE SAYS IF YOU DON'T TITHE

AND DO OTHER GIVING, YOU

WON'T BE AS BLESSED.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS?

AND WHEN YOU TITHE, WHERE

ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO GIVE

YOUR TITHE.

IS GIVING TO CBN CONSIDERED

A TITHE?"

Pat: I HAVE A HARD TIME

OF EXPLAINING OF MUSINGS

FROM SOME OF THESE PREACHERS

BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW

EVERYTHING THEY HAVE SAID

AND I'M SUPPOSED TO COMMENT

ON IT.

AGAIN, GOD LOOKS AT YOUR

HEART.

GOD LOVES A CHEERFUL GIVER.

AND WE GIVE OUT OF THE

ABUNDANCE OF BLESSING, AND

WE GIVE IT TO THE LORD

CHEERFULLY.

NOT OUT OF COMPULSION, BUT

CHEERFULLY.

AND HE SAYS HE WHO PROVIDES

SEED TO THE SOWER WILL ALSO

BLESS WHAT YOU DO.

THERE ARE VARIOUS TYPES OF

TITHES AND THEN THERE ARE

OFFERINGS.

AND THERE ARE VARIOUS TYPES

OF OFFERINGS ALONG THE WAY

UNTO THE LORD.

TO GET ALL LEGALISTIC --

NO.

BUT IN TERMS OF THE TITHE, I

THINK -- I HAD A YOUNG LADY

WORKING WITH ME ON THIS

PROGRAM WHO WAS ABSOLUTELY

ADAMANT THAT TITHE TITHES

BELONG TO THE CHURCH.

IT WAS TAUGHT BY HER

PREACHER BECAUSE IT IS THEIR

ADVANTAGE TO TEACH TO GIVE

TO THE CHURCH BECAUSE IT

COMES TO THEM OR THEIR

ORGANIZATION.

I THINK THE TITHES SHOULD GO

INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

THERE ARE MISSIONARY WORKS.

THERE ARE HOSPITAL AND

HUMANITARIAN WORKS.

THERE ARE CHARITIES THAT

FEED THE POOR AND THE

HUNGRY.

THERE ARE THOSE WHO PREACH

THE GOSPEL AROUND THE

WORLD.

FOR ONE SMALL GROUP OF A

COUPLE HUNDRED, 50000

PEOPLE, TO SAY WE HAVE AN

ABSOLUTE CLAIM ON TITHING,

TO ME THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY

SENSE.

I KNOW IT IS BEING TAUGHT IN

MANY CHURCHES, BUT I DON'T

THINK IT IS BIBLICAL.

Wendy: SHOULD YOU TITHE

ON THE NET OR THE GROSS?

Pat: I WAS WITH JAMES

BAKER, AND

HE WAS SECRETARY

OF THE TREASURY, AND THAT

ISSUE CAME UP.

AND I SAID YOU SHOULD TITHE

ON THE GROSS, AND HE SAID,

THAT'S WHAT PRESIDENT REAGAN

SAID.

REAGAN WAS RIGHT.

Wendy: TITHE ON THE

GROSS.

"IN THE STORY OF JOB, IT

SEEMS LIKE GOD IS PROVING

SOMETHING TO SATAN BY

LETTING HIM PERSECUTE JOB.

WHY?

GOD DOESN'T HAVE TO PROVE

ANYTHING."

Pat: WHAT YOU HAVE TO

REMEMBER IS THERE ARE ANGELS

AND OTHER CREATURES THAT GOD

MADE.

WHAT WE ARE IS EXHIBIT "A"

BEFORE THE UNIVERSE, BEFORE

PRINCIPALITIES AND POWERS,

IS WHAT THE APOSTLE PAUL

TALKED ABOUT.

SO THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING

HERE IS TO SHOW TO ALL THE

UNIVERSE THAT THERE ARE

THOSE WHO LOVE GOD.

AND THAT'S WHAT JESUS --

WHEN HE DIED ON THE CROSS,

HE WAS ESTABLISHING TO

PRINCIPALITIES AND POWERS

THAT THERE WAS A MAN WHO

LIVED A PERFECT LIFE IN

ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAWS OF

GOD, AND THEN WHO DIED TO

REDEEM THE REST OF MANKIND.

BUT HE REDEEMED ALL OF ALL

THE UNIVERSE.

SO GOD DOESN'T HAVE TO PROVE

ANYTHING TO HIMSELF.

BUT WHAT HE WANTS TO DO IS

TO LET THE DEVIL AND OTHERS

KNOW, YES, THERE ARE

PEOPLE.

SO HE SAID TO SATAN, WHO IS

THE ADVERSARY, HAVE YOU

CONSIDERED MY SERVANT JOB,

THERE IS NOBODY LIKE HIM.

AND HE SAID, YOU JUST

WACHUSETT.

WATCH.

I'LL GET HIS MONEY AND HIS

FAMILY, AND HE'LL CURSE

YOU.

BUT HE DIDN'T, HE NEVER

SINNED.

TIMES THOSE WHO ARE EXHIBIT

"A" GO THROUGH THE WORST

TRIALS.

JESUS CHRIST WAS EXHIBIT "A"

FOR ALL OF THE UNIVERSE.

Wendy: IF YOU DON'T

LIKE THE BOOK

OF JOB, READ

THE LAST

PAGE.

Pat: HE GOT REDEEMED.

HE NEVER CURSED GOD.

HIS WIFE SAID CURSE GOD, AND

HE NEVER DID THAT.

Wendy: CAROL WANTS TO

KNOW, "HOW DO YOU DETERMINE

TITHING ON THE HOUSE.

YOU MADE MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS

ON THE HOUSE, NEW WINDOWS

AND SIDING, ETC.."

Pat: IF YOU'RE ABLE TO

ADD IT UP, IF YOU KEEP GOOD

RECORDS, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE

GOING TO PAY TAXES ON, THE

PROFIT.

YOU ONLY OWE TAX ON THE

SPREAD, BETWEEN WHAT YOU GET

AND WHAT YOU PUT IN IT.

THAT'SLTHAT'S CALLED YOUR

NET PROFIT.

THAT'S WHAT YOU PAY TITHES

ON.

IF YOU SELL THE HOUSE.

NOT ON THE WHOLE AMOUNT.

Wendy: "I'M A CHRISTIAN

WIFE, MARRIED FOR 15 YEARS.

UP UNTIL NOW, I HAVE NOT HAD

MUCH LIBIDO, TO THE

FRUSTRATION OF MY HUSBAND.

I HAVEN'T OPENED ANY DOORS

OF SIN FOR THIS TO HAPPEN,

SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY

BODY IS GOING THROUGH THIS.

THIS IS GETTING UNBEARABLE.

WHAT CAN I DO TO STOP

THIS?"

Pat: SHE IS SAYING SHE

HAD A WHOLE BUNCH OF LIBIDO,

AND AFTER 15 YEARS SOMETHING

HAS TURNED THE SWITCH.

AND HER HUSBAND WILL BE

DELIGHTED.

TALK TO YOUR HUSBAND.

DEAR, SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED

TO ME AND I WOULD LIKE US TO

HAVE MARITAL RELATIONS A BIT

MORE OFTEN.

Wendy: I CAN'T IMAGINE

HIM BEING UPSET WITH THAT.

Pat: HE SHOULD BE VERY

PLEASED.

Wendy: WE HAVE ONE MORE

QUESTION.

TERRENCE WRITES, "SINCE ADAM

AND EVE SINNED, WHY SHOULD

ALL OF THEIR OFFSPRING

SUFFER.

WHEN ANGELS SINNED, NOT ALL

ANGELS WERE SUFFERING."

Pat: ANGELS DON'T HAVE

SONS AND DAUGHTERS.

IF I AM PRUDENT AND I BUILD

UP SOME MONEY, WHEN I DIE,

THAT MONEY WILL GO TO BLESS

MY CHILDREN, MAYBE.

OR IT WILL BLESS SOMEBODY.

ALL RIGHT.

Wendy: WOULD YOU LIKE

TO ADOPT ME?

[LAUGHTER]

Pat: ARE YOU LOOKING

FOR --

[LAUGHTER]

Pat: AT THE SAME TOKEN,

IF I'M DESOLUTE AND WASTE

EVERYTHING, THEN MY CHILDREN

WON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

AND NOW WHAT WE'VE LEARNED

IS YOUR LIFE, MY LIFE, CAN

ACTUALLY AFFECT THE D.N.A.

OF OUR CHILDREN.

SO IF WE LIVE A RIGHTEOUS

LIFE AND WE'RE HAPPY IN OUR

THOUGHTS AND WE PRAISE AND

LOVE GOD, THAT WILL AFFECT

THE D.N.A.

I DIDN'T THINK IT USED TO.

I USED TO STUDY THE GENETIC

AFFECTS AND THEY WERE

FIXED.

IT IS NOT FIXED.

IT CHANGES.

IT GOES ON TO THE SECOND OR

THIRD GENERATION OF THOSE

WHO LOVE HIM.

IT IS GENETICS AND

BIOLOGICAL AND CERTAINLY IN

MONEY.

IT IS SUCH A JOY TO HAVE

WENDY HERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Wendy: THANK YOU.

Pat: TOMORROW, TOO

SUPER NATURAL RESCUES.

HERE EYE-WITNESS ACCOUNTS OF

ANGELS ON THE SCENE OF A

MASSIVE ACCIDENT.

AND WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

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