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The 700 Club - August 20, 2013

Country music legend Ricky Skaggs takes a look back on his career and shares about his faith. Plus, Gang life leads to prison where Tommie meets his redeemer. Read Transcript


EVERYBODY OUTSIDE OF OUR

NEIGHBORHOOD HATES US, SO

WE'RE GOING TO HATE THEM

BACK.

Lee: AND HE WAS THEIR

ENFORCER.

FIND OUT WHAT ENDED THIS

TURF WAR.

I'M THINKING, HE MUST NOT

KNOW WHAT I DID.

Lee: PLUS, HE IS THE

OFFICIAL AMBASSADOR OF

BLUEGRASS MUSIC.

RICKY SKAGGS SHARES ABOUT

HIS LIFE IN MUSIC.

ON TODAY'S "700 CLUB."

*

Pat: WELCOME, LADIES

AND GENTLEMEN, TO THIS

EDITION OF "THE 700 CLUB."

GUESS WHAT?

OUR GOVERNMENT HAS GOT IT

WRONG IN EGYPT.

I MEAN, THEY'VE REALLY GOT

IT WRONG IN EGYPT.

THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IS

OUR ENEMY.

THEY ARE VOWED TO DESTROY

US.

SO WHAT DO WE DO WHEN

SOMEBODY PUTS THE SQUEEZE ON

THE BROTHERHOOD?

WE CUT OFF AID TO THOSE WHO

ARE DEFENDING US.

WELL, OUR ALLIES, SAUDI

ARABIA, THE A ARAB

EMIRATES, KUWAIT, SAID NO

WAY.

WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THE

EGYPTIANS SOME MONEY BECAUSE

THEY'RE HELPING TO PUT DOWN

AN EVIL FORCE.

BUT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION

DOESN'T QUITE GET THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING

ABOUT THAT TODAY.

PLUS, MY DEAR FRIEND RICKY

SKAGGS IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT

A NEW BOOK.

Terry: THAT'S RIGHT.

WE'LL HAVE A WONDERFUL

INTERVIEW WITH RICKY SKAGGS,

AND HIS BOOK IS OUT THERE.

IN EGYPT, THE ARMY HAS

ARRESTED THE BROTHERHOOD

SPIRITUAL LEADER, MOHAMMED

MOHAMMED EL-BADI.

Lee: EGYPTIAN POLICE

ARE CHARGING BADI WITH E EN

SIGHTMENT IN JUNE.

WHEN HE RECOMMENDED HOLY

JIHAD AGAINST THE JEWS.

EARLIER, AUTHORITIES

RETURNED THE REMAINS OF 25

POLICE OFFICERS TO CAIRO

AFTER AN ISLAMIC TERROR

ATTACK IN THE SINAI

PENINSULA.

THE TERRORISTS STOPPED TWO

BUSES CARRYING THE OFFICERS,

ORDERED THEM ON THE GROUND

AND SHOT THEM.

THE ATTACK HIGHLIGHTED THE

ANARCHY IN THE SINAI.

WE BELIEVE THERE ARE

SEVERAL THOUSAND AL-QAEDA

COMBATANTS RIGHT NOW IN THE

SINAI.

AND THEY'LL BE IN OTHER

PLACES AS WELL.

WHEN YOU HAVE THE KIND OF

CHAOS, ANARCHY AND CARNAGE

YOU'RE SEEING IN EGYPT AND

SYRIA, AND IT IS NOT SO

GREAT IN PLACES LIKE

SOMALIA, YOU'RE GETTING INTO

A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION.

Lee: IN CAIRO, THE

COURT ORDERED THE RELEASE OF

FORMER PRESIDENT MUBARAK,

BUT IT APPEARS HE WILL

REMAIN IN CUSTODY FOR

ANOTHER TWO WEEKS PENDING A

JUDICIAL REVIEW.

WHEN MUBARAK WAS IN POWER,

HE WARNED ABOUT THE MUSLIM

BROTHERHOOD AND OTHER

ISLAMIC GROUPS.

THESE GROUPS DON'T EVER

BELIEVE THEY WANT DEMOCRACY

OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THEY ARE EXPLOITING

DEMOCRACY IN ORDER TO

ELIMINATE DEMOCRACY.

IF THEY EVER DO GOVERN, IT

WILL BE AN UGLY

DICTATORSHIP.

ACCORDING TO THEM, THE U.S.

IS SECRETLY PLANNING TO CUT

AID.

THEY SAID THE CURRENT REGIME

WANTS TO BE PRO-WESTERN, BUT

IF EUROPE AND THE U.S. CUT

AID, VLADIMIR PUTIN WILL

GLADLY OFFER AID TO THE ARAB

WORLD'S MOST INFLUENTIAL

NATION.

HE SAYS THE MUSLIM

BROTHERHOOD HAS DECLARED WAR

ON THE WEST.

AN ISRAEL OFFICIAL TOLD CBN

NEWS IT BELIEVES EUROPE AND

THE U.S. SHOULD CONTINUE TO

SUPPORT THE MILITARY-BACKED

GOVERNMENT SINCE THE

MILITARY IS THE ONLY HOPE TO

PREVENT FURTHER CHAOS IN

EGYPT AND RESTORE

STABILITY.

CHRIS MITCHELL, CBN NEWS,

JERUSALEM.

Pat: WITH US NOW FOR

MORE ON THE CRISIS IN EGYPT

IS CBN NEWS CONTRIBUTOR

RAYMOND IBRAHIM.

RAYMOND, ONCE AGAIN, IT IS A

PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU WITH

US.

COULD YOU TELL ME WHY THE

OBAMA ADMINISTRATION THINKS

YOU CAN REASON WITH THE

MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD?

THEY NEED TO SIT DOWN AND

HAVE A CONFERENCE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

WELL, HAPPY TO BE WITH

YOU AGAIN, PAT.

I'LL JUST LET YOU KNOW WHAT

EGYPTIANS ARE SAYING.

I'LL RELATE TO YOU WHAT IS

BEING SAID BY THE EGYPTIAN

MEDIA, THE EGYPTIAN

MILITARY, AND THE EGYPTIAN

STREET.

IT IS BASICALLY THAT OBAMA,

WHEN HE IS DOING THIS, IT IS

NOT BECAUSE HE IS NAIVE, BUT

RATHER BECAUSE OBAMA IS IN

BED WITH THE MUSLIM

BROTHERHOOD.

THEY HAVE ANY NUMBER OF

UNDERCOVER DEALS AND

CONNECTIONS THEY HAVE MADE A

LONG TIME AGO.

THAT WAS PART OF THE BEAG.

BARGAIN.

THAT'S WHY OBAMA AND THE

UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT ARE

PRETTY MUCH COZY WITH THE

MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, AND

THEY'RE NOW THREATENING

EGYPT WITH THE MILITARY AID,

AND THREATENING THE ENTIRE

REGION STABILITY BECAUSE

THAT AID, OF COURSE, GOES

BEYOND JUST HELPING EGYPT.

AND SO IT'S JUST TO THE

POINT NOW THAT EVERYONE IS

CONVINCED THIS IS A

CONSPIRACY.

OBAMA -- AND YOU CAN'T HELP

BUT WONDER, OF COURSE IT

IS.

BECAUSE WHY IS THE OBAMA

ADMINISTRATION SO ADAMANT

ABOUT HELPING THIS

ORGANIZATION.

JUST RECENTLY THEY SAID THEY

MIGHT ACTUALLY DISBAND THE

MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD BECAUSE

OF ITS TERRORIST ACTIVITIES,

INCLUDING BURNING UP TO 80

CHURCHES IN THE LAST TWO

WEEKS.

AND THE UNITED STATES

SAID -- IT'S SPOKESMAN JUST

RECENTLY SAID YESTERDAY THAT

WOULD BE A BAD IDEA.

Pat: RAYMOND, YOU

UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE ARE

TORTURE CA CAMPS IN THE

DESERT THAT ARE RUN BY THE

BROTHERHOOD.

COULD YOU EXPAND ON THAT?

SURE.

THE BROTHERHOOD -- IT IS

AMAZING BECAUSE AS I READ

AND WATCH THE ARABIC MEDIA,

AND I TOLD YOU THIS BEFORE,

AND I LOOKED AT THE WESTERN

MEDIA, IT IS LIKE I'M

LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT

EVENTS.

IN THE WESTERN MAINSTREAM

THE CAMPS WERE PORTRAYED AS

LITERALLY SIT-INS, WHERE

MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD

SUPPORTERS WERE HOLDING VIL

VIGILS.

BUT AS A LOT OF EGYPTIAN

MEDIA, REPORTERS AND

INVESTIGATORS SHOWED WITH A

LOT OF EVIDENCE AND PICTURES

AND VIDEOS, PEOPLE IN THERE

WERE BEING ATTACKED AND

KILLED.

SHARI'A LAW IS BEING

ENFORCED.

ONE MAN HAD HIS FINGER CUT

OFF.

AND WOMEN WERE BEING

SEXUALLY HARASSED.

AND UP TO ONE -- ONE ACCOUNT

SAYS UP TO 80 PEOPLE HAVE

BEEN MASSACRED, AND THERE

ARE BODIES HIDDEN UNDER THE

GROUND.

AND, SURE ENOUGH, THE

MILITARY THAT HAS BEEN IN

THERE HAS BEEN UNCOVERING

THESE BODIES, ALL OF THE

PEOPLE THAT WERE TRYING TO

ESCAPE.

THIS IS WHAT THE MUSLIM

BROTHERHOOD IS, AND THIS IS

WHAT THESE ISLAMIC

ORGANIZATIONS DO.

AND WE HAVE THE MEDIA

PORTRAYING THEM AS THE

INNOCENT VICTIMS OF A

VICIOUS MILITARY.

Pat: YOU FEEL THE

BROTHERHOOD MAY HAVE BEEN

BEHIND THE BENGHAZI

ATTACKS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

WELL, AGAIN, THERE IS SO

MUCH EVIDENCE, PAT, THAT

COMES OUT.

I'LL JUST GIVE YOU THE MOST

RECENT ONE.

THE EGYPTIAN EMBASSY, OR THE

CONSULATE, IN BENGHAZI WAS

JUST ATTACKED.

WHY?

IT WAS ATTACKED FOR THE SAME

REASON THAT CHURCHES IN

EGYPT ARE BEING ATTACKED,

MILITARY AND GOVERNMENTAL

INSTITUTIONS ARE BEING

ATTACKED, BU TH BECAUSE THE

MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IS

ANGRY.

IN EGYPT, YOU HAVE A MUSLIM

BROTHERHOOD WING THERE.

WHEN THE ATTACK HAPPENED ON

SEPT 11, YOU HAVE PEOPLE

RUNNING TOWARDS THE BUILDING

SAYING DON'T FIRE.

DON'T FIRE.

DR. MORSI SENT US.

AND HE WAS THE LEADER.

AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN

POINTING OTHER EVIDENCE, AND

THIS, OF COURSE, EXPLAINS

WHY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION

WANTED TO PIN THIS ON A

YouTube MOVIE BECAUSE

THEY DON'T WANT ANY OF THIS

TO COME UP.

AND NOW THE EGYPTIAN

MILITARY IS THREATENING, AND

THE GOVERNMENT, THAT THE

REASON THAT THE U.S. IS

TRYING SO HARD TO RELEASE

THE BROTHERHOOD BECAUSE THEY

KNOW ONCE THEY'RE TRIED, ALL

OF THESE DIRTY LITTLE

SECRETS WILL COME OUT INTO

THE OPEN AND ALL OF THESE

SCANDALS WILL BE OUT IN THE

OPEN.

Pat: ONE OTHER

QUESTION: YOU SAY THE

BROTHERHOOD HAS KIDNAPPED

WOMEN AND USED THEM FOR

SEX?

OH, SURE.

THERE IS A FATWAH, OR AN

ISLAMIC DECREE, THAT SAYS IF

THERE IS A JIHADI, A MAN

WAGING JIHAD, AND ACCORDING

TO THE BROTHERHOOD, THEY'RE

ALL JIHADIS BECAUSE WHEN

THEY FIGHT AGAINST THE

EGYPTIAN GOVERNMENT, THEY'RE

FIGHTING ON BEHALF OF ISLAM

AND SHARI'A LAW.

WHEN THEY WERE IN THE CAMPS,

AND THE YOUNG MEN WERE

GETTING SEXUALLY FRUSTRATED

BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE

THEIR WIFE'S.

THEY TRIED TO PUSH THIS

CREED, BASIC MANY SAYING

BASICALLY SAYING THAT THE

WOMEN THERE WERE OBLIGATED

TO HAVE SEXUAL INTERCOURSE

WITH THE MEN AND IT IS NOT A

SIN BECAUSE THEY ARE, IN

THEIR OWN WAY, HELPING

JIHAD.

Pat: RAYMOND, THANK YOU

SO MUCH.

HIS BOOK CALLED "CRUCIFIED

AGAIN," YOU REALLY NEED TO

READ IT.

RAYMOND IBRAHIM CONTRIBUTED

FOR US.

HE IS FROM EGYPT, AND HE

SPEAKS FLUENT.

HE IS A STUDENT OF NOT ONLY

THE QURAN, BUT THE HISTORY

OF ISLAMIC PERSECUTION

THROUGHOUT THE MIDDLE EAST.

I THINK WHAT HE SAYS IS VERY

PERSUASIVE.

HE SAYS THAT'S WHAT THE

EGYPTIAN STREET IS SAYING

AND THE EGYPTIAN PRESS IS

ANYWAY ABOUT OUR PRESIDENT.

WE DON'T KNOW THAT TO BE A

FACT, BUT IT IS SHOCKING TO

THINK THAT OBAMA MAY HAVE

MADE A DEAL WITH THE MUSLIM

BROTHERHOOD.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, I MEAN,

IT IS APPALLING, SIMPLY

APPALLING.

BUT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,

THIS STUFF IS GOING TO COME

OUT.

AND WE'VE GOT A PRESIDENT,

YOU WONDER ABOUT WHERE HE IS

COMING FROM.

BUT IT IS CLEARLY THE

ADMINISTRATION, THE

SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, THE

SECRETARY OF STATE, HAVE

COME DOWN ON THE SIDE OF

SOME KIND OF REASONABLE

ACCOMMODATION WITH THE

BROTHERHOOD.

WELL, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE

A COBRA, YOU DON'T REASON

WITH A COBRA.

THE COBRA IS GOING TO ATTACK

AND BITE YOU.

THAT'S HIS NATURE.

AND THAT'S WHO THESE

BROTHERHOOD PEOPLE ARE.

THEY ARE DEDICATED FANATICS

WITH ONE GOAL: TO ESTABLISH

AN ISLAMIC SUPER STATE, THE

CALAFATE, THROUGHOUT THE

MIDDLE EAST, AND TO UNDER

MINE WESTERN COUNTRIES.

THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO

DO.

THAT'S WHY IT IS SO

IMPERATIVE THAT THE UNITED

STATES JOIN WITH OTHERS IN

THAT REGION WHO UNDERSTAND

THE DEAL.

AND DEFEND THAT MILITARY.

YOU MIGHT -- WHAT ARE THEY

GOING TO DO?

THEY HAVE A RIOT GOING ON.

HOW DO YOU CONTROL IT?

WELL, YOU HAVE TO USE SOME

FORCE.

AND THEY'RE USING FORCE.

AND IT MAY NOT SEEM PLEASANT

TO PEOPLE, BUT NONETHELESS,

SOMETHING HAS GOT TO BE GONE

TO QUELL THE RIOTING.

THEY'RE TAKING SOME KIND OF

MEASURES.

BUT SITTING DOWN AND TALKING

WITH PEOPLE LIKE THAT IS

NONSENSE.

WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE

SOMETHING OUT OF A MOVIE.

AN ARMY CHIEF-OF-STAFF

INDICTED IN THE MURDER OF

THE LEADER OF HIS OWN

COUNTRY.

BUT IT'S TRUE.

LEE WEBB HAS THAT STORY FROM

THE CBN NEWS ROOM.

HERE IS LEE.

Lee: THAT'S RIGHT,

PAT.

THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF

PAKISTAN HAS BEEN CHARGED IN

CONNECTION WITH THE

ASSASSINATION OF PRIME

MINISTER BENAZIR BHUTTO.

PERVEZ MUSHARRAF WAS ALSO

THE FORMER CHIEF-OF-STAFF OF

THE PAKISTANI ARMY.

PROSECUTORS SAID HE DID NOT

DO ENOUGH TO PROTECT

BHUTTO.

SHE WAS KILLED SIX YEARS AGO

DURING A GUN AND BOMB

ATTACK.

THERONE OF HIS ATTORNEY'S

SAYS THERE IS NOTHING SOLID

IN THE CASE AGAINST HIM.

THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION

WANTS THEM TO BE ABLE TO

SEARCH YOUR CELL PHONES

WITHOUT A SEARCH WARRANT.

THE GOVERNMENT SAYS POLICE

ALREADY HAVE THE POWER TO GO

THROUGH THE ITEMS THAT A

SUSPECT IS CARRYING, BUT

SMARTPHONES CONTAIN A GREAT

DEAL OF PERSONAL

INFORMATION, INCLUDING

E-MAILS, TEXT MESSAGES AND

PHOTOGRAPHS.

INTEREST RATES ARE GOING UP,

AND THE STOCK MARKET GOING

DOWN.

INVESTORS HAVE BEEN WAITING

TO SEE HOW STOCKS WOULD

REACT WHEN THE FEDERAL

RESERVE EASES OFF ITS MOVES

TO HELP THE ECONOMY BY

KEEPING RATES LOW.

NOW SOME LONGER TERM IT

RATES ARE HITTING THEIR

HIGHEST LEVEL IN TWO YEARS.

ANDREANDREWANALYSTS ARE

SPLIT ON WHAT IT WILL DO FOR

THE STOCK MARKET.

SOME SAY IT WILL HURT THE

STOCK MARKET, AND SOME

PREDICT A CORRECTION, BUT

THEY AGREE IT WILL CORRECT

ITSELF.

Pat: I BELIEVE WHEREVER

THE MONEY IS, THE STOCKS

WILL FOLLOW.

THE FED HAS BEEN GUSHING

MONEY INTO THE ECONOMY, SO

THE STOCK MARKET IS GOING

UP.

THIS RALLY, I DON'T THINK,

IS BASED ON FUNDAMENTALS.

SO IT WILL GO BACK TO THE

FUNDAMENTALS.

AND I'VE BEEN SPEAKING OUT

OVER AND OVER AND OVER

AGAIN, LOOK FOR STOCKS THAT

PAY GOOD DIVIDENDS, AND HAVE

THE EARNING ABILITY CONTINUE

TO EARN AND CONTINUE TO PAY

THE DIVIDENDS.

SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE

MARKETS DOES, UP OR DOWN,

YOU'LL GET YOUR DIVIDENDS,

AND YOU'LL GET A CHECK, AND

THE STOCKS WILL BE

BENEFICIAL.

BUT IF THEY DON'T PAY

ANYTHING AND THEY GO DOWN,

THEN YOU'RE IN THE HOLE.

AND THAT'S JUST TOUGH LUCK

FOR YOU.

TERRY?

Terry: UP NEXT, HE

COULD BE COMING TO YOUR

CHURCH TO CHECK THINGS OUT

SECRETLY.

I'VE NOTICED POISON SUMAC

GROWING IN THE FLOWERBEDS

NEXT TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE.

FOUR FOOT TALL.

I HAVE ENTERED THE WORSHIP

FACILITY AND EXITED, AND NO

ONE HAS SPOKEN TO ME.

Terry: MEET THE SECRET

CHURCH SHOPPER AFTER THIS.

AND LATER ON, HE STARTED

MAKING MUSIC AT THE AGE OF

FIVE.

COUNTRY AND BLUEGRASS LEGEND

RICKY SKAGGS TALKS ABOUT HIS

50 PLUS YEARS IN THE

BUSINESS.

THE OFFICIAL AMBASSADOR OF

BLUEGRASS MUSIC IS COMING

UP.

* NOTHING IS CLEARER

*

Pat: YOU MAY HAVE HEARD

WHAT STORES ARE DOING, THEY

WANT TO SEE HOW THEIR

SERVICE COMPORTS WITH THE

GENERAL PUBLIC, SO THEY

ASSIGN MYSTERY SHOPPERS TO

GO UNDERCOVER AND EVALUATE

CUSTOMER SERVICE.

WELL, HERE IS A NEW TWIST TO

THAT CONCEPT: PASTORS ARE

USING IT TO MAKE THEIR

CHURCHES BETTER.

THE MYSTERY SHOPPER MAY BE

VISITING YOUR CHURCH SOON.

HERE IS EPHRAIM GRAHAM WITH

THAT STORY.

DON'T BE NERVOUS.

I'VE GOT TO BE STRAIGHT

WITH YOU.

YOU'RE ON UNDERCOVER BOSS.

Reporter: FOR

UNDERCOVER BOSS --

YOU HAVE TWO NEW SERVERS

WHO JUST STARTED.

THEY ARE UNDERCOVER MYSTERY

DINER WAITRESSES.

Reporter: TO MYSTERY

DINERS, IT NOT ONLY CREATES

POPULAR TELEVISION SHOWS, IT

IS ANSWERING THE PRAYERS OF

SOME CHURCH LEADERS.

THE CONCEPT OF THE SECRET

CHURCH SHOPPER IS NOT

ORIGINAL TO ME.

Reporter: BUT THOMAS

HAR HARRISON HAS ADD ED THE

ANGLE OF MYSTERY

WORSHIPPER.

EVEN THE AMERICAN MEDICAL

ASSOCIATION RECOMMENDS TO

THEIR DOCTORS TO HAVE SECRET

PATIENT SHOPPERS.

Reporter: AND THIS

FORMER PASTOR GETS CALLS

FROM CHURCHES ACROSS THE

COUNTRY TO SECRETLY CHECK

THINGS OUT.

I NEVER KNOW, WHEN THE

PHONE RINGS, IF IT IS NEW

YORK OR CHICAGO OR

LOS ANGELES OR SOME OTHER

PLACE.

I HAVE THE MOST INTERESTING

QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE ASK

ME.

Reporter: HARRISON

FINDS SOME MOST INTERESTING

THINGS ON THESE VISITS.

I'VE NOTICED POISON SUMAC

GROWING IN THE FLOWERBEDS

NEXT TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE.

FOUR FOOT TALL.

CHURCHES ARE CLUTTERED.

THEY HAVE COLLECTIONS OF

MATERIALS IN VARIOUS

PLACES.

AND THERE SEEMS TO BE NO

ORDER.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WE DO

THAT AT OUR HOME, TOO.

THERE HAVE BEEN OCCASIONS,

HONESTLY, WHEN I HAVE

ENTERED THE WORSHIP FACILITY

AND EXITED AND NO ONE HAS

SPOKEN TO ME.

Reporter: HARRISON

ATTENTION TO DETAIL IS ONLY

EXCEEDED BY HIS HEART, FOR

HELPING CHURCHES REACH MORE

PEOPLE TO HEAR THE GOSPEL.

WE FOLLOWED HIM ON A VISIT

TO MASON CITY CHRISTIAN

CHURCH IN ILLINOIS.

I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT

WHAT MR. HARRISON -- THE

MINISTRY HE HAS, AND I WANT

TO SHARE IT WITH A LOT OF

PEOPLE, BUT I HAVE TO KEEP

THAT TO MYSELF.

Reporter: PASTOR JOE

BAZINO INVITED HARRISON, BUT

HE IS JUST A BIT NERVOUS

ABOUT WHAT HIS CHURCH

MEMBERS WILL THINK WHEN THEY

FIND OUT.

IT IS ALMOST LIKE YOU'VE

BEEN PUNKED.

I THINK THERE WILL BE A GOOD

RECEPTION.

I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MY

LEADERS HERE AT THE CHURCH,

DOING A LOT OF LEADERSHIP

TRAINING.

Reporter: WHEN THE

PASTOR FIRST CAME TO LEAD

THE MASON CITY CONGREGATION,

IT WAS MEETING HERE IN THIS

BUILDING AND HOVERED TO

ABOUT 200.

IT QUICKLY GREW TO 400

MEMBERS STRONG AND

RELOCATED.

BUT IT HAS HOVERED AT THAT

400 NUMBER FOR THE PAST FEW

YEARS.

SINCE WE MOVED INTO THE

LARGER BUILDING, WE HAVE

BEGUN TO ATTRACT PEOPLE FROM

SURROUNDING TOWNS AND

VILLAGES AROUND HERE.

SOME DRIVE 30 MILES.

SOME DRIVE 40 MILES.

WE'VE ALSO NOTICED IN OUR

CHURCH THAT WE'VE HAD PEOPLE

COME, BUT THEY'LL STAY FOR A

WHILE AND THEN THEY'LL

LEAVE.

AND WE TRY TO SEEK TO REACH

OUT TO THEM.

SO THERE HAS BEEN A LITTLE

BIT OF -- FOR LACK OF A

BETTER WORD, A REVOLVING

DOOR.

MANY TIMES THE EXPERIENCE

THAT A GUEST WILL HAVE AT A

CHURCH DETERMINES WHETHER

THAT GUEST RETURNS TO BECOME

A MEMBER OR NOT.

Reporter: WITH THAT IN

MIND, HARRISON PAYS CLOSE

ATTENTION TO HOW CHURCH

MEMBERS GREET GUESTS.

AFTER ALL OF THESE YEARS,

ONE STORY STILL STANDS OUT.

THOUGH HE WOULD NEVER REVEAL

WHERE IT HAPPENED --

DURING THE FELLOWSHIP

TIME, WHERE EVERYONE IS

SHAKING HANDS, A WOMAN

BEHIND ME LEANS OVER PAST ME

TO SHAKE THE HAND OF THE

WOMAN IN FRONT OF ME.

AND IN THE PROCESS DOESN'T

SAY HELLO, MOVE, YOU'RE IN

MY WAY, OR ANYTHING.

SO I FEEL ABANDONED WHILE

EVERYONE ELSE IS SHAKING

HANDS.

AND I'M JUST STANDING HERE.

AND PRIOR TO THAT, I HAD

BEEN BUMPED FROM MY SEAT TWO

TIMES.

Reporter: HARRISON

URGES CHURCHES TO MAKE

REACHING PEOPLE WHO ARE NEW

TO THE CHURCH EXPERIENCE A

TOP PRIORITY.

SO AFTER EVERY VISIT, HE

DELIVERS A 30 TO 50-PAGE

REPORT TO HELP THE CHURCH

IMPROVE.

IT IS BASED ON THE FIVE-STAR

CHURCH, A BOOK DEDICATED TO

CHRISTIAN EXCELLENCE.

THE SAME GOD WHO CALLED

US ALSO MADE US.

AND THERE ARE OCCASIONS WHEN

I BODY DOES NOT FUNCTION THE

WAY GOD INTENDED OR

DESIGNED.

AND WE HAVE TO GO TO A

DOCTOR OR A PHYSICAL

THERAPIST.

AND THE SAME GOD THAT HEALS

US ALSO PROVIDES THESE

OCCUPATIONS.

SO IT IS ALL ABOUT

DIAGNOSIS.

IT IS A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT IS

HAPPENING IN THIS

CONGREGATION AT THIS MOMENT

IN TIME.

Reporter: AND THAT'S

THE PICTURE PASTOR BRAZINO

HOPES WILL HELP HIS MEMBERS

MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

ALL OF US, AS PASTORS, WE

HAVE BLIND SPOTS.

AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH

RESEARCH WE DO OR WE SEEK TO

IMPROVE WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR

THE GLORY OF GOD AND THE

EFFECTIVENESS OF HIS

KINGDOM, I THINK THERE ARE

AREAS WE ALL COULD IMPROVE

ON.

Reporter: EPHRAIM

GRAHAM, CBN NEWS, MASON

CITY, ILLINOIS.

Pat: ISN'T THAT

INTERESTING.

THE SHOCKER MAY BE TO YOU.

I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE

ABOUT 100 OF HIM GOING

AROUND THE COUNTRY.

Terry: SO DURING MEET

AND GREET, BE SURE YOU HIT

EVERYBODY AROUND YOU.

Pat: TERRY, A FEW YEARS

AGO, I RAN FOR THE

REPUBLICAN NOMINATION FOR

THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

STATES.

I HAD A BUS AND I TRAVELLED

HITTER AND YON DOING STOPS.

I WAS JOINED BY A YOUNG

COUNTRY MUSIC SINGER WHO HAD

RED COWBOY BOOTS.

AND I DIDN'T REALIZE UNTIL

LATER THAT HIS JOINING ME

COST HIM A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT

IN TERMS OF SPONSORSHIP

BECAUSE PEOPLE GOT MAD

BECAUSE HE WAS SUPPORTING

THIS CONSERVATIVE

CHRISTIAN.

BUT, ANYHOW, HE IS HEAR, SO

TELL US ABOUT HIM.

Terry: UP NEXT, RICKY

SKAGGS IS IN THE HOUSE.

THE 14-TIME GRAMMY-WINNER IS

GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS

LIFE IN MUSIC WHEN WE COME

BACK.

*

Terry: RICKY SKAGGS HAS

BEEN PERFORMING ALMOST AS

LONG AS HE HAS BEEN ALIVE.

MUSIC IS IN HIS BLOOD.

AND IT'S THE STORY OF HIS

LIFE AS THE KENTUCKY

TRAVELLER.

* YOU'RE THE BIGGEST THING

IN THAT PICTURE *

Reporter: MUSIC LEGEND

RICKY SKAGGS IS KNOWN AS THE

OFFICIAL AMBASSADOR OF

BLUEGRASS MUSIC.

AND FROM THE BEGINNING, HE

SEEMED DESTINED FOR

SUCCESS.

WHEN RICKY WAS FIVE, HIS

FATHER GAVE HIM A MANDOLIN.

RICKY PROVED TO BE A MUSICAL

PRODIGY.

BY AGE SIX, HE WAS ON STAGE

WITH COUNTRY MUSIC

SUPERSTARS, LIKE BILL

MONROE.

AT AGE SEVEN, HE MADE HIS

DEBUT AT THE GRAND OLE

OPRY.

TODAY, AFTER 50 YEARS IN

COUNTRY MUSIC, HE IS JUST

TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING

SHARING THE MUSIC HE LOVES.

HE SHARES THIS IN HIS MEMOIR

, "KENTUCKY MUSIC."

Terry: IT IS GREAT TO

HAVE YOU BACK.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

Terry: YOU DID

EVERYTHING YOUNG.

I HAD A LOT OF BILLS TO

PAY.

Terry: UNBELIEVABLE.

YOU JUST HAD SO MUCH SUCCESS

SO QUICKLY.

BUT LET'S START AT THE

BEGINNING OF YOUR BOOK.

YOU REALLY DEDICATE THE BOOK

TO YOUR MOM AND DAD AND TO

BILL MONROE.

LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR

PARENTS FIRST, AND THE

INFLUENCE THEY HAD ON YOUR

LIFE.

MY MOTHER TAUGHT ME HOW

TO BELIEVE THE WORD, HOW TO

PRAY, AND HOW TO FALL IN

LOVE WITH JESUS.

AND THAT WAS A VERY STRONG

FOUNDATION TO STAND ON.

MY DAD WAS A GREAT

CHRISTIAN.

HE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT A

LOT, BUT HE WALKED IT, HE

LIVED IT.

AND I SAW HIM REDEDICATE HIS

LIFE WHEN I WAS 13 AT A

REVIVAL.

AND I SAID, IF THIS IS

IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO MY DAD,

I KNOW THIS IS IMPORTANT TO

ME.

I NEED TO DO THIS.

Terry: YOU BOTH WENT

DOWN TO THE ALTER THAT

NIGHT?

YEAH.

IT WAS A GREAT WAY TO GROW

UP.

HAVING A FOUNDATION OF

FAITH, FAMILY, AND MUSIC.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT SHAPED MY

LIFE AND MADE ME REALLY THE

MAN THAT I AM TODAY.

Terry: IT SHAPED YOUR

MUSIC, TOO.

IT ABSOLUTELY DID.

Terry: TALK ABOUT BILL

MONROE AND THE INFLUENCE HE

HAD ON YOUR LIFE.

WHEN I WAS SIX YEARS OLD,

WE WENT TO SEE HIM IN

MARTHA, KENTUCKY.

THE NEIGHBORS IN THE HOOD

HAD SEEN ME PLAYING AT

BUTLER'S GROCERY STORE AND

PLAYING AT CHURCH.

AFTER ABOUT 30 MINUTES IN

MR. MONROE'S SHOW, THEY

STARTED SHOUTING, LET RICKY

SKAGGS GET UP AND SING.

AFTER A FEW TIMES, I THINK

HE WAS READY TO GET THAT

OVER WITH.

HE

CALLED ME UP ON STAGE,

AND I DON'T THINK HE HAD AN

IDEA HOW LITTLE RICKY SKAGGS

WAS.

HE LET ME PLAY HIS

MANDOLIN.

I WAS SIX.

BUT I FELL IN LOVE WITH THAT

MAN THAT NIGHT.

I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE

PASSION HE HAD FOR HIS

MUSIC, THE QUALITY THAT HE

PLAYED, AND THE PASSION THAT

HE HAD.

BUT THE GIVING HEART THAT HE

HAD AS WELL.

BECAUSE HE WAS WILLING TO

SHARE THE SPOTLIGHT WITH A

LITTLE 6-YEAR-OLD,

COMPLETELY UNKNOWN KID.

Terry: HE DIDN'T JUST

HAVE YOU COME UP.

HE PUT HIS MANDOLIN AROUND

YOUR NECK AND LET YOU PLAY.

HE DID.

Terry: WHAT WENT

THROUGH YOUR MIND AS A

6-YEAR-OLD?

I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO

MESS UP.

THAT WAS A REAL DEFINING

MOMENT FOR ME WHEN I LOOK

BACK AND SEE THOSE

GOD-DEFINING MOMENTS.

IT WAS ALMOST LIKE DANIEL

POURING THE OIL ON ME.

HIM GIVING ME HIS MANDOLIN

AND HIS BLESSING TO DO THAT

AT THAT TIME WAS VERY

SPIRITUAL FOR ME WHEN I LOOK

BACK AND SEE IT.

Terry: YOU TALK ABOUT

THE INFLUENCE YOUR MOM AND

DAD HAD ON YOU.

YOUR BOOK IS CALLED

"KENTUCKY TRAVELLER."

TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT

KENTUCKY.

FOR ALL OF US WHO COME FROM

SMALL TOWNS, I THINK SOME

TIMES THERE ARE TIMES WHEN

YOU DON'T APPRECIATE IT AS

MUCH AS YOU OUGHT TO, AND

THEN YOU GET SMARTER AND GO,

THANK GOD THAT'S WHERE I WAS

BORN AND RAISED.

TALK ABOUT WHAT KENTUCKY

MEANS TO YOU?

KENTUCKY WAS A VERY

IMPORTANT PLACE FOR A HUMBLE

MAN AND A HUMBLE FAMILY TO

GROW UP.

I COULD HAVE BEEN BORN

ANYWHERE.

GOD COULD HAVE RAISED ME UP

IN CHICAGO OR NEW YORK, AND

MAYBE I WOULD HAVE BEEN A

JAZZ MUSICIAN.

I THINK THE GIFT WOULD HAVE

BEEN THERE.

I THINK HE GIFTED ME WITH

MUSIC.

BUT I'M SO GRATEFUL I HAD

THE CREEKS TO FISH IN, AND

TO ROMP AND PLAY, AND THE

CHURCHES TO GO TO.

EVEN

ON THE FRONT BROTHER,

THERE IS

MY GRANDDAD, AND MY

DAD BESIDE ME, AND MY COUSIN

PLAYING FIDDLE.

THAT'S JUST THE WAY I GREW

UP, YOU KNOW, WITH FAMILY

AND FAITH.

AND IT MEANT THE WORLD TO

ME.

I LOVE KENTUCKY AND I'M SO

THANKFUL I WAS BORN THERE.

Terry: YOUR BOOK IS SO

DESCRIPTIVE OF IT.

THOSE OF US WHO READ IT FEEL

LIKE WE'VE BEEN TO

KENTUCKY.

THAT'S GREAT.

Terry: YOU MENTIONED

THE TIME WHEN YOU WALKED TO

THE ALTER WITH YOUR DAD WHEN

YOU WERE 13.

AFTER THANKS FOR BEING

THAT -- I THINK IT HAPPENS

TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.

YOU MAKE A COMMITMENT TO

CHRIST AS A CHILD, AND THEN

THE WORLD KIND OF COMES IN

AND CAUSES YOU TO DOUBT THE

REALITY OF WHAT YOU'VE

DONE.

YOU WENT THROUGH THAT IN

YOUR LIFE, AND THE THEN

THERE CAME A TIME WHERE

CHRIST BECAME VERY PERSONAL

AND VERY REAL TO YOU.

TALK ABOUT THAT.

WELL, WHEN I FIRST GOT

SAVED, I KNEW I HAD GONE AND

MADE A COMMITMENT.

I KNEW THAT.

EMOTIONALLY I WAS VERY SORRY

FOR -- I FELT LIKE I KILLED

SOMEBODY ALMOST.

I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE

MESSAGE WAS, BUT I KNEW I

WAS CONVICTED.

Terry: GRIEVED?

GRIEVED.

AND I HAD SOMEONE ASK ME,

HOW DO YOU FEEL?

AND I WAS, LIKE, IT'S KIND

OF NEW AND I'M NOT EXACTLY

SURE HOW I FEEL.

AND THEY SAID, YOU MUST NOT

HAVE GOTTEN SAVED THEN.

AND THE ENEMY USED THAT TO

QUESTION THAT AND SOW THAT

SEED OF DOUBT INTO ME.

SO FOR A LONG TIME, WHEN I

WOULD DO SOMETHING THAT

WASN'T RIGHT, THE ENEMY

WOULD SAY, SEE, I TOLD YOU

YOU WEREN'T SAVED.

SO I JUST KNOW, YOU KNOW,

THAT I MADE THAT COMMITMENT

TO CHRIST.

I WAS AS SAVED THEN AS I AM

RIGHT NOW.

IT IS JUST THAT LATER ON I

REALLY DID RECOMMIT MYSELF

TO CHRIST.

AND MY WIFE, SHARON, WHO HAS

BEEN SUCH A GREAT INFLUENCE,

AND HER DAD AND MOM, MISS

PATTY AND MR. BUCK, THEY

HAVE BEEN SUCH GREAT

INSPIRATIONS FOR ME.

THEY HAVE WALKED

IT OUT AND

BEEN SUCH A GODLY FAMILY,

THE WHITES.

Terry: YOU'VE REACHED

REALLY THE PIN CA PINNACLE

OF SUCCESS.

ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE WHO

HAVE STARTED SO YOUNG, THEY

WOULD HAVE GOTTEN OFF THE

PATH AND HAD A LOT OF ISSUES

WITH THE FAME AND THE

SUCCESS.

WHAT HAS KEPT YOU ON THE

STRAIGHT AND NARROW DURING

ALL OF THAT?

MY COMMITMENT TO CHRIST

REALLY HAS -- GOD HAS NOT

CALLED ME TO BE FAMOUS.

GOD CALLED ME TO BE

FAITHFUL.

I THINK IN OUR FAITHFULNESS,

GOD WILL MAKE US FAMOUS IF

HE CHOOSES TO.

IT IS LIKE THE ROBERTSONS,

THAT "DUCK DYNASTY" GUY.

THEY WEREN'T CALLED TO BE

FAMOUS WHEN THEY STARTED

OUT.

THEY'VE BEEN FAITHFUL ALL

THESE YEARS AND RAISED THEIR

FAMILY FAITHFUL.

AND FAITHFUL MEANS FULL OF

FAITH.

AND WE'VE GOT TO BE THAT.

AND THEN GOD CAN USE US, IF

HE SEES WE'RE FULL OF FAITH

AND WILLING TO DO WHAT HE

CALLS US TO DO.

I KNOW THAT I WOULD NEVER BE

WHERE I WAS IF IT WASN'T FOR

CHRIST.

HE'S THE ONE.

Terry: WELL, YOU HAVE A

RICH HISTORY IN YOUR LIFE OF

MANY, MANY THINGS, OF

FAMILY, OF FAITH, OF MUSIC,

OF JUST LIFE EXPERIENCES,

AND YOU SHARE THEM ALL IN

"KENTUCKY TRAVELLER."

THIS IS RICKY SKAGGS' BOOK

ABOUT THIS LIFE, HIS LIFE

AND HIS MUSIC, AND IT IS

AVAILABLE WHEREVER BOOKS ARE

SOLD.

I

HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT.

IT IS A GREAT READ.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

Terry:

IT'S ALWAYS

GREAT TO SEE YOU.

NEXT TIME YOU SING FOR US.

I WILL.

Pat: RICKY IS A DEAR

FRIEND.

I'M SO GLAD TO SEE HIM TODAY

AND HEAR HE IS DOING WELL.

I REMEMBER YEARS AGO WHEN HE

WAS THE COUNTRY MUSIC

PERFORMER OF THE YEAR.

THAT WAS A BIG DEAL.

FROM THEN, HE'S GOTTEN SO

MANY AWARDS SUBSEQUENTLY.

I'M GLAD HE IS HERE AND

STILL SERVING THE LORD.

STILL AHEAD, YOU WOULDN'T

WANT TO GET LOST AND END UP

IN HIS MAN'S NEIGHBORHOOD.

I BECAME THE ENFORCER,

SHOOTING ANYBODY WHO CAME

INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHO

WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE

THERE.

JUMPING AND BEATING PEOPLE

UP WHO WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE

IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

Pat: SEE HOW THE TABLES

TURNED ON THIS ENFORCER WHEN

HE WINDS UP BEHIND BARS.

WELCOME BACK TO

WASHINGTON FOR THIS CBN NEWS

BREAK.

NEW JERSEY HAS BECOME THE

SECOND STATE TO BAN

CONVERSION THERAPY.

THERAPISTS USE IT TO TRY TO

HELP KIDS GET RID AND

UNWANTED ATTRACTION TO

PEOPLE OF THE SAME-SEX.

GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE

SIGNED THE BILL INTO LAW.

HE SAYS HE BELIEVES PEOPLE

ARE BORN GAY AND THAT

HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A SIN.

LIBERTY COUNCIL, A CHRISTIAN

LEGAL GROUP, IS FILING SUIT

TO BLOCK THE LAW, LIKE IT

DID WHEN CALIFORNIA BLOCKED

THE PRACTICE.

ITS FOUNDER SAYS THE BILL

VIOLATES THE FIRST AMENDMENT

RIGHT OF COUNCILLORS AND

THEIR CLIENTS.

NEW MOSQUES ARE POPPING UP

ACROSS THE COUNTRY, VIRGINIA

BEACH, VIRGINIA, IS POISED

FOR ITS FIRST MOSQUE.

IN NEIGHBORIN NEIGHBORING

MARYLAND, THE GOVERNMENT OF

TURKEY IS BUILDING A $

100 MILLION MEGA MOSQUE.

IT WILL COVER 15 ACRES IN

THE TOWN OF LANTA.

MEANWHILE, THE CLARION

PROJECT REPORTS ABOUT 1200

MOSQUES ARE NOW OPERATING IN

THE U.S.

NEARLY 80% WERE BUILT WITHIN

THE LAST 12 YEARS.

THE REPORT ALSO CLAIMS THE

MAJORITY OF THOSE MOSQUES

ARE LED BY THE MOHABI

CLERICS, FROM THE SAME

BRANCH OF ISLAM THAT OSAMA

BIN LADEN FOLLOWED.

YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE

LATEST BY GOING TO OUR

WEBSITE AT CBNNEWS.COM.

PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Pat: TOMMY SCOTT WAS

THE ULTIMATE BAD GUY.

A GANG-BANGER, WHO RAN WITH

THE WORST OF THEM.

TOMMY TOOK PRIDE IN RULING

HIS NEIGHBORHOOD WITH AN

IRON FIST AND PERPETRATING

THE SAME KIND OF VIOLENCE

THAT HE HAD WITNESSED ALL

HIS LIFE.

WE'VE SEEN IT ALL AS KIDS

IN BROAD DAYLIGHT.

PEOPLE SHOT IN FRONT OF

OTHER LITTLE KIDS PLAYING

JUMP ROPE, AND A DRIVEBY

SHOOTER CAN COME BY AND JUST

SHOOT EVERYBODY, KIDS AND

EVERYTHING.

Reporter: TOMMY SCOTT

GREW UP AMONG GANG VIOLENCE,

DRUGS, AND POVERTY IN SOUTH

CENTRAL LOS ANGELES.

HIS FATHER WAS IN AND OUT OF

PRISON THROUGHOUT HIS

CHILDHOOD.

SO TOMMY FOUND O OTHER MEN

TO LOOK UP TO AND JOINED A

GANG.

THE GANG MEMBERS, THEY

HAVE THE JEWELRY, THEY HAVE

THE CARS.

THEY HAVE THE GIRLS -- THEY

HAVE EVERYTHING.

I SAID, THAT LOOKS LIKE A

WAY OUT.

I'M PART OF SOMETHING.

I CAN GET RESPECT AND I CAN

GET LOVE.

IT'S LIKE A LITTLE FAMILY.

Reporter: AS TOMMY GREW

UP, HIS RESPONSIBILITIES IN

THE GANG GREW WITH HIM.

WHATEVER I CAN DO FOR MY

NEIGHBORHOOD TO SHOW THEM,

HEY, I GOT YOUR BACK,

SELLING DRUGS FOR THEM,

DOING DRIVEBYS FOR THEM.

EVERYBODY OUTSIDE OF OUR

NEIGHBORHOOD HATES US, SO

WE'RE GOING TO HATE THEM

BACK.

SO I BECAME THE ENFORCER,

SHOOTING AT ANYBODY WHO CAME

INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT

WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE

THERE.

JUMPING OTHER PEOPLE.

BEATING PEOPLE UP THAT

WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE IN OUR

NEIGHBORHOOD, EN MY

NEIGHBORHOOD.

Reporter: GANG VIOLENCE

CLAIMED THE LIVES OF SEVERAL

OF TOMMY'S FRIENDS AND

FAMILY.

AS MY FRIENDS STARTED

DYING OFF, GETTING KILLED, I

BECAME NUMB TO DEATH.

I HAD NO EMOTION.

IT WAS LIKE A DEAD

NOMINATION.

IT WAS LIKE A VOID.

I HAD TOTAL HATRED FOR

ANYBODY, ANYBODY OUTSIDE OF

MY RACE, ANYBODY OUTSIDE OF

MY RACE.

THAT RAGE I HAD, A LOT OF US

HAD THAT RAGE, AND WE JUST

FLARED EACH OTHER'S RAGE.

WE WOULD SIT AROUND, NOTHING

TO DO, GETTING DRUNK AND

LOADED, AND THEN, HEY, LET'S

GO ROB SOMEBODY.

Reporter: JUST LIKE HIS

FATHER, TOMMY SPENT YEARS IN

JAIL, IN PRISON.

I WAS THIS BIG, BAD KID

COMING IN.

BUT WHEN I WAS STUCK BEHIND

THAT DOOR, I JUST KNEW IT

WAS JUST ME, IT WAS ONLY ME

NOW.

THE FEAR SET IN, THE

LONELINESS, THE

HOPELESSNESS.

IF YOU SHOW WEAKNESS, YOU

WON'T LAST THAT LONG.

WORRY HIS INVOLVEMENT IN

GANG FIGHTS AND RACE RIOTS

LED TO EXTENDED TIME IN

SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.

YOU CAN'T MOVE.

I'M A HUMAN BEING, AND I'M

SITTING IN A CAGE WHERE I

CAN'T FUNCTION.

I REALLY WAS LOSING MY

MIND.

I STARTED GETTING SUICIDAL.

I STARTED THINKING OF NOT

LIVING NO MORE.

I WAS, LIKE, IF THERE IS A

GOD, IF THERE IS SOMETHING,

YOU NEED TO COME AND DO

SOMETHING NOW.

Reporter: THE NEXT DAY

TOMMY SAYS HE FELT COMPELLED

TO GO TO THE PRISON CHAPEL

SERVICE.

FOR SOME REASON I

COULDN'T SIT STILL.

SOMEONE WAS SAYING, GO, JUST

GO.

AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW

GOD CAN FORGIVE US, NO

MATTER WHAT WE'VE DONE.

AND I'M THINKING, LIKE, YOU

MUST DON'T KNOW WHAT I DID.

YOU MUST NOT KNOW, THE LIVES

I'VE DESTROYED, THE FAMILIES

THAT ARE TORN UP.

Reporter: AT THE END OF

MESSAGE, TOMMY PRAYED WITH

THE PASTOR AND ASKED GOD TO

FORGIVE HIS SINS.

IT WAS LIKE MY HEART WAS

TORN OUT AND ANOTHER HEART

WAS PUT IN.

IT WAS JOY.

IT WAS PEACE.

IT WAS FORGIVENESS.

I MEAN, I KNEW FOR A FACT

THAT I WAS SAVED.

THERE WAS NO QUESTIONS AT

ALL.

I KNEW I WAS FORGIVEN OF

EVERYTHING I DID AT THAT

MOMENT.

SPIRITUALLY, I KNEW THAT I

WAS CLEAN.

I NEVER THOUGHT I COULD FEEL

THE PEACE.

I NEVER THOUGHT I COULD FEEL

THE JOY.

I NEVER THOUGHT I COULD FEEL

JUST THE FORGIVENESS FROM

THE INSIDE.

Reporter: HE BEGAN

SHARING WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM

WITH ANYONE WHO WOULD

LISTEN.

I WAS TALKING TO

SKINHEADS, I WAS TALKING TO

ENEMIES.

I WAS TALKING TO EVERYBODY I

COULD.

I JUST KNEW WHAT CHRIST HAD

DONE FOR ME.

Reporter: TOMMY IS FREE

TODAY, AND CONTINUES TO TELL

PEOPLE THAT IT WAS JESUS WHO

CHANGED HIS LIFE AND FORGAVE

HIM OF ALL OF THE WRONGS HE

HAD DONE.

IF HE CAN GIVE ME ETERNAL

LIFE AND GOD CAN REACH DOWN

AND TOUCH ME, I KNOW FOR A

FACT THAT HE IS GOING TO

GIVE EVERYBODY THE

OPPORTUNITY TO SURRENDER

THEIR LIVES IN THEIR

LIFETIME.

I WANT EVERYBODY ELSE TO

EXPERIENCE THE LOVE OF

CHRIST LIKE I HAVE.

WITHOUT CHRIST, I HAVE

NOTHING.

AND THE LIFE I LIVE NOW IS

TOTALLY SURRENDERED TO HIM.

Pat: HAVE YOU DONE

SOMETHING WRONG?

I ASK YOU, HAVE YOU BEEN

MEAN TO SOMEBODY?

HAVE YOU STOLEN SOMETHING?

HAVE YOU LIED?

HAVE YOU YELLED AT YOUR

MOTHER OR FATHER?

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?

THERE ISN'T ONE OF US THAT

HAVEN'T DONE SOMETHING THAT

IS WRONG?

WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU JUST

CARRY THAT AROUND WITH YOU?

WELL, IT CAN BUILD DISPAIR.

YOU CAN GO INTO DEPRESSION.

OR YOU CAN REBEL AGAINST IT

LIKE TOMMY DID AND START

FIGHTING AND KILLING AND

HURTING OTHER PEOPLE.

BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A

RAGE

INSIDE OF YOU, AND SO YOU

WANT TO TAKE IT OUT ON

SOMEBODY ELSE.

SO YOU HAVE FIGHTS WITH YOUR

SPOUSE.

YOU YELL AT YOUR HUSBAND OR

YOUR WIFE.

BEAT UP ON YOUR KIDS.

YOU DO ALL OF THESE THINGS

BECAUSE INSIDE OF YOU THERE

IS SOMETHING RAGING.

YOU KNOW SOMETHING?

JESUS FORGIVES ALL OF THAT.

THAT'S WHAT IS SO WONDERFUL

ABOUT CHRISTIANITY.

JESUS CHRIST DIED TO FORGIVE

YOU.

AND IF YOU TRULY WILL TURN

FROM THE LIFE YOU'RE LIVING

AND HAVE ANOTHER THOUGHT,

HAVE A NEW WAY OF GOING.

YOU'RE GOING THIS WAY, AND

NOW YOU'RE TURNING AND

YOU'RE GOING THAT WAY.

IF YOU TRULY WILL TURN TO

HIM, YOU'LL CLEANSE UP

EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE.

YOU'LL TAKE AWAY THE

MEMORIES.

HE'LL CLEANSE YOUR

CONSCIENCE FROM DEAD WORKS

SO THAT YOU CAN SERVE HIM.

YOU SEE, HE DOESN'T WANT TO

CONDEMN YOU.

HE WANTS TO HAVE YOU PART OF

HEAVEN.

HE WANTS TO MAKE YOU INTO

SOMETHING WONDERFUL.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE

FORGIVEN?

WOULD YOU REALLY LIKE TO BE

FORGIVEN?

KNOW THAT YOUR SINS ARE ALL

TAKEN CARE OF.

THEY'RE ALL UNDER THE BLOOD

OF JESUS.

LET'S START RIGHT NOW.

LET'S ASK HIM.

SO YOU PRAY WITH ME, IF YOU

WOULD.

I'M GOING TO LEAD YOU IN A

REAL SIMPLE PRAYER.

WHEREVER YOU ARE, JUST BOW

YOUR HEAD AND SAY THESE

WORDS, AND THEN MEAN THIM IN

YOUR HEART.

THESE WORDS: JESUS -- THAT'S

RIGHT, SAY IT WITH ME.

JESUS, YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE

DONE.

YOU'VE BEEN WITH ME SINCE

THE DAY I WAS CONCEIVED.

YOU'VE SEEN EVERY THOUGHT.

YOU'VE HEARD EVERY WORD.

YOU KNOW EVERYTHING THAT I

HAVE DONE, GOOD OR BAD, ALL

MY LIFE.

SO, LORD, I CAN'T HIDE

ANYTHING FROM YOU.

AND I COME TO YOU AND

CONFESS THAT I'M A SINNER,

AND I NEED YOU.

NOW, LORD, I BELIEVE THAT

YOU DIED ON THE CROSS TO PAY

THE PRICE FOR ALL OF THE

SINS THAT I'VE COMMITTED.

SO I BRING THEM ALL TO YOU.

AND I CLAIM YOUR DEATH.

I CLAIM YOUR RESURRECTION.

COME NOW INTO MY LIFE, LORD,

AND LIVE IN ME FROM THIS

MOMENT ON.

I'M YOURS.

THANK YOU, LORD.

THANK YOU.

NOW I WANT TO PRAY FOR YOU,

IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME JUST

THEN.

FATHER, IN JESUS' NAME, FOR

EVERYBODY WHO PRAYED, MAY

THE ANOINTING POWER OF THE

HOLY SPIRIT TOUCH THEM FROM

THIS MOMENT ON.

AMEN.

AMEN.

NOW THANK THE LORD.

WHEREVER YOU ARE, THANK HIM

FOR WHAT HE HAS DONE.

BELIEVE HIS WORD AND THANK

HIM.

YOU MAY ASK YOURSELF, WHAT

DO I DO NEXT?

WELL, I'VE GOT A LITTLE

PACKET HERE.

INSIDE THERE IS A LITTLE

C.D., COMPACT DISC, 73

MINUTES.

VERY, VERY INTENSE TEACHING

ABOUT WHAT JUST HAPPENED TO

YOU, AND WHAT WILL BE COMING

FLECKS. NEXT.

I'LL GIVE THIS TO YOU, AND

ALONG WITH IT THERE IS A

LITTLE BOOKLET OF SCRIPTURES

FROM THAT TEACHING.

IT IS AN EASY REFERENCE.

YOU CAN TURN IT OPEN AND

HERE THESE THINGS ARE.

I'LL GIVE THIS TO YOU FREE

IF YOU JUST PICK UP THE

PHONE AND CALL AND SAY, I

PRAYED WITH PAT AND GAVE MY

HEART TO THE LAW.

IT IS 1-800-759-0700.

NO FINANCIAL

OBLIGATION

WHATSOEVER, BUT PLEASE CALL

US.

1-800-759-0700.

TERRY, WHAT'S NEXT?

Terry: UP NEXT, TIME TO

"BRING IT ON."

DOUGLAS WANTS TO KNOW, "DOES

GOD STILL USE PROPHETS TODAY

LIKE HE DID IN THE OLD

TESTAMENT?"

PAT IS GOING TO ANSWER

DOUG'S QUESTION AND MORE OF

YOUR E-MAIL RIGHT AFTER

THIS.

Terry: , PAT, THIS

FIRST ONE COMES FROM

DOUGLAS.

HE SAYS, "DOES GOD STILL USE

PROPHETS TODAY LIKE HE DID

IN THE OLD TESTAMENT?"

Pat: I THINK HE HAS

RESTORED THE SO-CALLED

MINISTRY GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT

WITH PROPHETS

BECAUSE YOUR ENEMY ROARS

LIKE A LION, SEEKING THOSE

TO DEVOUR.

SO HE IS STILL ON THE HUNT.

I DO THINK IF YOU READ THE

BOOK OF REVELATION, SATAN

WAS CAST OUT FROM HEAVEN.

THOSE TIMELINES -- THERE CAN

BE SOME DISPUTE AS TO WHEN

IT HAPPENED, BUT I BELIEVE

HE WAS CAST TO EARTH,

KNOWING HIS TIME IS SHORT.

SO HE ISN'T NECESSARILY

BEFORE THE COUNCILS OF GOD.

IN JOB, THE SONS OF GOD CAME

BEFORE THE LORD, AND SATAN

WAS ONE OF THE SONS OF GOD.

AND GOD SAID, HAVE YOU

CONSIDERED MY SERVANT JOB?

BUT AS FAR AS SATAN

ATTACKING GOD'S PEOPLE,

ATTACKING GOD'S CHOICE

SAINTS, THAT'S PART OF

LIFE.

Terry: THIS IS ALANA,

WHO SAYS, "I'M A 14-YEAR-OLD

GIRL.

MY MOM GOT SURGERY A COUPLE

OF MONTHS AGO TO FIX A

RUPTURED DISC IN HER NECK.

SHE DOESN'T NEED TO BE BACK

TO WORK UNTIL THIS FALL.

I'M WORRIED SHE WON'T BE

READY BY THEN.

MY PARENTS ARE DIVORCED, AND

MY DAD DOESN'T CONTRIBUTE.

I THINK I'LL HAVE TO WORK.

WE BARELY MAKE ENOUGH AS IT

IS.

I'M WORRIED."

Pat: FIRST OF ALL,

ALANA, YOUR WHOLE ATTITUDE

IS WONDERFUL.

THERE ARE SOME TREMENDOUS

JOBS INVOLVING TELEPHONE.

PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR

TELEPHONE SOLICITATION.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR

TELEPHONE ANSWERING.

IF YOU'VE GOT A HALF-WAY

DECENT VOICE AND YOU'VE GOT,

OBVIOUSLY THE SMARTS YOU'RE

SHOWING IN THIS LETTER, I

THINK YOU'RE EMPLOYABLE.

AND FACT THAT YOUR 14

SHOULDN'T MAKE TOO MUCH

DIFFERENCE.

YOU COULD GET A JOB AND DO

WELL.

THERE ARE OTHER THINGS LIKE,

YOU KNOW, BAGGING GROCERIES

AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHERE

IT IS MINIMUM WAGE, BUT

THERE ARE CERTAINLY JOBS FOR

14-YEAR-OLDS, AND ESPECIALLY

THOSE WHO LOOK AT LIFE THE

WAY YOU DO.

GOD WILL BLESS YOU.

Terry: I THINK GOD

MIGHT GIVE HER MOTHER THE

HELP SHE NEEDS BY THE FALL,

TOO, SO SHE CAN GO BACK TO

WORK.

THIS VIEWER SAYS, "I WENT TO

CHURCH ON AND OFF AS A CHILD

AND AN ADULT, AND PEOPLE

WOULD SAY TO ME THEY WERE

SAVED, BUT THEY DIDN'T ACT

BORN AGAIN.

I THOUGHT I WAS SAVED, TOO.

I BELIEVE THE BIBLE IS THE

WORD OF GOD, AND I BELIEVE

JESUS DIED FOR MY SINS.

AND I BELIEVE I HAVE

ACCEPTED JESUS AS MY SAVIOR,

BUT I'M NOT BORN AGAIN.

IS IT POSSIBLE I BELIEVE

THIS IN MY HEAD AND NOT MAY

HEART?

AND IF SO, HOW DO I GET IT

FROM MY HEAD TO MY HEART?"

Pat: I THINK MAYBE YOU

ARE, AND YOU DON'T REALIZE

IT.

YOU HAVE TO TAKE GOD AT HIS

WORD.

HAVING RECEIVED WHAT HE SAID

IN HIS WORD, YOU LIVE IT

OUT.

YOU PASS FROM DEATH INTO

LIFE, AND YOU HAVE LOVE FOR

THE BROTHEREN, JUST FOR

EXAMPLE.

IT IS ONE WAY OF KNOWING.

YOU DELIGHT IN THE WORD.

YOU DELIGHT IN THE COMPANY

OF GOD'S PEOPLE.

YOU WANT TO BE IN FELLOWSHIP

WITH THE LORD.

BUT IF THERE IS ANY

QUESTION, JUST GO BEFORE THE

LORD AND SAY, LOOK, I AM

YOURS.

I GIVE YOU MY HEART.

DO IT.

IT IS A CONSCIOUS DECISION.

IT IS NOT SOME EMOTIONAL

THING.

AND THEN FOCUS ON WHAT THE

WORD SAYS AND TAKE IT AS

TRUTH.

IT IS TRUTH.

YOU KNOW?

Terry: UH-HUH.

Pat: IF SOME BILL

GATES-TYPE SAYS TO YOU, I'M

GOING TO SEND YOU A MILLION

DOLLARS, YOU TAKE HIM AT HIS

WORD.

BUT YOU DON'T ENJOY IT UNTIL

YOU GO TO THE BANK AND CASH

THE CHECK.

SO YOU NEED TO CASH THE

CHECK.

YOU BEGIN TO ENJOY IT AND

LIVE FOR IT.

I THINK WITH THAT SAID,

BELIEVE THE BIBLE.

Terry: SOMETIMES WE

THINK IT IS BASED ON

SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO,

SOME PERFORMANCE WE HAVE TO

HAVE.

IT IS A FAITH ISSUE.

OKAY, THIS IS ESSA, WHO

SAYS, "I'M 16 YEARS OLD, AND

I'VE ALWAYS HAD AN NATURALLY

HORRIFYING FEAR OF BEING

TORTURED AND/OR KILLED FOR

MY FAITH.

IS GOD TRYING TO TELL ME

SOMETHING.

WILL GOD SOME DAY TEST ME.

SOMETIMES I CAN'T SLEEP AT

NIGHT BECAUSE I'M SO

SCARED.

AND WHAT SCARES ME MORE IS I

DON'T KNOW IF I CAN STAND

STRONG IN MY FAITH IN THE

FACE OF DEATH.

WHAT SHOULD I DO?"

Pat: I THINK YOU SHOULD

GET YOUR MIND STRAIGHT FOR

THE LORD.

CORI SAID HER FATHER SAID,

WHEN WE TAKE A TRIP, I HAVE

A TICKET TO TRAVEL, AND THEN

THAT TICKET IS THE TICKET

FOR THE TRAVEL.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A

JOURNEY WITH GOD, HE WILL

GIVE YOU THE TICKET WHEN IT

IS TIME TO LEAVE.

BUT HE GIVE IT TO YOU

BEFORE.

FOR YOU TO SIT AROUND

WORRYING ABOUT THIS -- I

DON'T KNOW WHAT IT COMES

FROM, BUT IT MAY COME FROM

SATAN.

YOU NEED TO REBUKE THAT

THING AND LIVE IN THE LOVE

OF GOD.

Terry: IT IS A SPIRIT

OF FEAR.

Pat: YOU REBUKE THAT

SPIRIT OF FEAR, AND YOU

COMMAND IT TO LEAVE YOU, AND

LEAVE YOU ALONE.

BECAUSE YOU NEED TO BE

LIVING -- REJOICE IN THE

LORD IN ALL THINGS, THE

BIBLE SAYS.

IN ALL THINGS REJOICE.

REJOICE AND THE LORD.

SPEND YOUR TIME PRAISING

GOD.

I THANK YOU GOD.

INSTEAD OF OBSESSING ON THIS

STUFF.

Terry: THAT'S ALL OF

THE TIME WE HAVE FOR

QUESTIONS.

BUT WE WANT TO TAKE YOU TO

AFRICA BECAUSE IN SENEGAL,

WEST AFRICA, LIFE IS HARD.

ESPECIALLY FOR A LAME MAN

NAMED ABLIA, BUT HE NEVER

LET'S HIS CIRCUMSTANCES GET

HIM DOWN.

TAKE A LOOK.

Reporter: 37-YEAR-OLD

ABLIA OF SENEGAL IS ONE OF

THOSE GUYS WHO PEOPLE LIKE

TO BE AROUND.

MAYBE IT IS BECAUSE HE

ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE SMILING.

EVERY DAY WHEN I WAKE UP,

I GIVE THANKS TO GOD FOR THE

GIFT OF LIFE.

LIFE IS SO BEAUTIFUL.

THAT'S WHY I SMILE ALL OF

THE TIME.

Reporter: AND ABLIA'S

SMILE IS EVEN MORE

REMARKABLE BECAUSE OF THE

CHALLENGES HE HAS HAD TO

OVERCOME.

AT THE AGE OF NINE, HE

CONTRACTED POLIO, WHICH LEFT

HIM LAME.

I TOLD MYSELF EARLY ON I

WILL NEVER BE A BEGGER.

Reporter: SO HE DECIDED

TO SET UP HIS OWN BUSINESS.

WITH THE LITTLE MONEY HE

HAD, HE BOUGHT BRICKS AND

CEMENT AND ASKED SOME

FRIENDS TO HELP HIM BUILD A

STORE.

WHEN THE BUILDING WAS DONE,

THERE WAS NO MONEY LEFT TO

STOCK IT.

THAT'S WHEN CBN OFFERED TO

HELP.

WE GAVE HIM CORN, FLOUR,

RICE AND OTHER ITEMS TO SELL

IN HIS GROCERY STORE.

IT IS AMAZING HOW GOOD

BUSINESS HAS BEEN.

Reporter: AND TO HELP

HIM MOVE AROUND TOWN, CBN

GAVE HIM THIS SPECIAL

WHEELCHAIR.

THANK YOU, CBN, FOR ALL

OF YOUR HELP.

MAY GOD BLESS YOU.

Terry: "THE 700 CLUB"

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PLEASE CALL NOW.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE

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LOVE OF GOD.

Pat: YOU'VE BEEN

WATCHING "THE 700 CLUB."

THANKS FOR BEING WITH US.

ON TOMORROW, TWITTER

SENSATION MANDY HAIL TALKS

ABOUT HOW TO HAVE AN AWESOME

LIFE AS A SINGLE WOIMG.

WOMAN.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE

WORDS FROM FROM THE PSALMS:

"THE LORD WILL PERFECT THAT

WHICH CONCERNS ME."

AND HE'LL DO IT FOR YOU.

MAY THE LORD BLESS YOU, FOR

TTERRY, LEE, AND ALL OF US,

THIS IS PAT ROBERTSON.

WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

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