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The 700 Club - October 10, 2017

One disadvantaged youth beats the odds in her search for love. Plus, art dealer Ron Hall shares how his life changed when his wife befriended a homeless man. Read Transcript


COMING UP...THE TRUE

STORY BEHIND THE

BEST-SELLING BOOK, AND THE

UP COMING MAJOR MOTION

PICTURE.

RON HALL TAKES US INSIDE

"SAME KIND OF DIFFERENT AS

ME."

PLUS...THE HIDDEN DANGERS

OF STATIN DRUGS.

THE FIRST SIGN I HAD A

PROBLEM, I WOKE UP

SCREAMING.

THAT BIG PHARMA DOESN'T

WANT YOU TO SEE.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE

STORY THAT IS TOLD BY THE

DRUG COMPANIES.

BOTH SIDES WEIGH IN ON

TODAY'S "700 CLUB."

*

Pat: WELL, FOLKS, TO

THIS EDITION OF "THE 700

CLUB."

WE'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE

YOU WITH US.

TERRY IS HERE WITH US

TODAY.

IT IS GOING TO BE A GREAT

PROGRAM, AND WE'VE GOT

WONDERFUL THINGS FOR YOU.

BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, IF

YOU LIVE IN CALIFORNIA,

NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, YOU

WANT TO WISH YOU WERE IN

VIRGINIA, BECAUSE IT IS SO

HOT AND IT HAS BEEN SO

DEVASTATING.

THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE HAVE

EVACUATED THEIR HOMES IN

NORTHERN CALIFORNIA TO GET

AWAY FROM RAGING

WILDFIRES.

THE FIRES HAVE BEEN

BLAZING THROUGH EVERYTHING

FROM URBAN AREAS TO SMALL

TOWNS TO BUSINESSES.

AND WE WOULD ASK PEOPLE TO

PRAY ALL ACROSS THIS

NATION FOR OUR DEAR

FRIENDS IN CALIFORNIA

BECAUSE THEY'RE SUFFERING

RIGHT NOW.

Terry: UH-HUH.

AT LEAST 10 PEOPLE ARE

DEAD, AND 100 ARE INJURED,

AND THE WORST MAY NOT BE

OVER YET.

HEATHER SELLS HAS THE

STORY.

Heather: IN NORTHERN

CALIFORNIA, THE FIRES HAVE

DESTROYED MORE THAN 1500

HOMES AND BUSINESSES,

INCLUDING ITS FAMOUS

WINERIES.

THE DEVASTATION LOOKS AND

FEELS APOCALYPTIC.

IT LOOKS LIKE A BOMB

WENT OFF.

THERE IS NOTHING LEFT OF

THESE HOMES.

THIS IS THE STUFF YOU

HAVE NIGHTMARES ABOUT, YOU

KNOW, YOUR HOME BURNING

DOWN.

Heather: FIREFIGHTERS

ARE BATTLING AN UNUSUALLY

LARGE NUMBER OF BLAZES.

14 IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA,

PLUS A QUICKLY-MOVING ONE

IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.

BUT BECAUSE OF THE

INTENSITY OF THE FLAMES,

THE FIREFIGHTERS HAD TO

WORK PRIMARILY JUST TO GET

PEOPLE.

LIFE IS OUR PRIMARY

FOCUS HERE.

WE NEED YOU TO EVACUATE SO

WE CAN PROTECT YOU.

Heather: THE FIRES

HAVE FORCED TENS OF

THOUSANDS OF CALIFORNIANS

TO FLEE.

HOSPITAL STAFF HAD TO

EVACUATE PATIENTS ON

GUNNER MEAS.

TGURNIES.

AND SMOKE HAS GONE OVER

NEARBY DISNEYLAND.

I'M IN SHOCK.

THIS IS YOUR LIFE.

Heather: OCTOBER IS

KNOWN AS THE WORST TIME OF

THE YEAR FOR CALIFORNIA

WILDFIRES.

BUT NORMALLY THE STATE IS

NOT BATTLING SO MANY AT

THE SAME TIME.

WIND AND LOW HUMIDITY HAVE

NOT HELPED.

FIREFIGHTERS SAY THERE IS

NO KNOWN CONNECTION

BETWEEN THE FIRES, AND

THEY'RE NOT SURE WHAT

STARTED THEM.

OFFICIALS HAVE RECEIVED

MORE THAN 100 REPORTS OF

MISSING PERSONS, AND

AUTHORITIES WARN THE DEATH

TOLL COULD RISE.

HEATHER SELLS, CBN NEWS.

Pat: THANKS, HEATHER.

YOU ASK YOURSELF, WHAT IN

THE WORLD IS GOING ON?

THIS IS A GREAT NATION,

BUT, I'LL TELL YOU, IT

CAN'T STAND BUT SO MANY

BODY BLOWS.

AS GREAT AND RICH AND

POWERFUL AS WE ARE, THE

WEATHER CAN TAKE A

TERRIBLE TOLL.

WE'VE HAD THESE AWFUL

HURRICANES, A TERRIBLE

HURRICANE IN TEXAS AND A

TERRIBLE HURRICANE IN

FLORIDA, AND A TERRIBLE

RESIDUAL IN PUERTO RICO,

AND NOW THESE TERRIBLE

FIRES IN CALIFORNIA.

WE NEED TO LOOK TO

OURSELVES AS A NATION AND

SAY, WHAT CAN WE DO?

CAN WE COME BEFORE THE

LORD AND MAKE SOMETHING

HAPPEN?

WELL, I MIGHT ADD, YOU

KNOW, THE OBAMA

ADMINISTRATION DECLARED A

WAR ON COAL.

THEY SAID, WE'RE GOING TO

DESTROY COAL.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE

PEOPLE BURNING COAL.

IT IS A FOSSEL FUEL.

WE DON'T LIKE IT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO DO AWAY

WITH THE POWER PLANTS THAT

ARE COAL-FIRED.

AND WE DON'T LIKE IT.

SO THE PEOPLE IN WEST

VIRGINIA AND KENTUCKY AND

OTHERS VOTED AGAINST

OBAMA'S SUCCESSOR.

AND TRUMP HAS PROMISED,

LOOK, I'M GOING TO RESTORE

COAL AS A KEY FUEL IN OUR

NATIONAL ARSENAL.

WELL, THE HEAD OF

PRESIDENT TRUMP'S

ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION

AGENCY SAID, QUOTE, "THE

WAR ON COAL IS OVER."

JOHN JESSUP HAS THAT.

John: THANKS, PAT.

E.P.A. ADMINISTRATOR SCOTT

PRUITT SAYS HE WILL REPEAL

THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION'S

CLEAN POWER PLANT.

IT WAS THE CENTER PIECE OF

PRESIDENT OBAMA

ADMINISTRATION TO STOP

CLIMATE CHANGE.

THEY SAID THE RULE WENT ON

FEDERAL BY SETTING

STANDARDS NO POWER PLANT

COULD REASONABLY MEET.

SCOTT PRUITT WILL ANNOUNCE

HIS PROPOSAL FOR A NEW

RULE, THAT WILL SET

STANDARDS THAT ARE

ACTUALLY ATTAIN ABLE.

ATTAINABLE.

BUT ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS

ARE ALREADY CALLING THE

DECISION SHORT-SIGHTED.

SOME OF THE PRESIDENT'S

ALLIES ARE CONCERNED THAT

HIS ONGOING FEUD WITH BOB

CORKER COULD DERAIL HIS

PLAN FOR TAX REFORM.

THEY ARE WORRIED THE FEUD

COULD ALIENATE OTHER

REPUBLICANS.

THE PLAN CAN'T AFFORD TO

USE MANY VOTES TO PASS A

TAX PLAN.

CORKER SAID HE WOULDN'T

VOTE FOR A PLAN IF IT ADDS

TO THE DEFICIT.

AND BLOOMBERG POINTS OUT

TRUMP HAS FEUDED WITH

SENATORS BEFORE BUT, PAT,

LATER MENDED FENCES.

Pat: THE PRESIDENT,

GOD BLESS HIM, BETTER MEND

SOME FENCES.

JOHN McCAIN HATES HIM,

AND JOHN McCAIN CAST A

VOTE TO REPEAL OBAMACARE

JUST TO FRUSTRATE THE

PRESIDENT.

I DON'T THINK THERE WAS

ANY QUESTION ABOUT IT HE

WAS GOING TO TAKE AWAY

FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP THE

IDEA OF SAYING, I'M MAKING

AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

NOW BOB CORKER, WHO IS A

VERY NICE GUY -- HE IS A

CONGRESSMAN FROM

CHATTANOOGA, AND HE IS A

SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN,

AND HE IS CHAIRMAN OF THE

COMMITTEE.

HE IS A NATURAL ALLY OF

THE PRESIDENT.

AND TO GET INTO A FIGHT

WITH A GUY LIKE BOB CORKER

IS INSANE.

HE HAS ONLY GOT ABOUT A

TWO-VOTE SPREAD IN THE

SENATE.

AND HE LOSES HOW MANY OF

THESE -- HOW MANY OF THESE

SENATORS CAN HE LOSE

BEFORE HE CAN'T PASS

ANYTHING.

THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL"

HAD AN EDITORIAL ABOUT IT

AND SAID THE PRESIDENT IS

A MAN WITHOUT A PARTY.

AND STEVE BANNON IS OUT

TRYING TO TAKE REPUBLICANS

OUT OF OFFICE.

AND THAT KIND OF THING IS

INTERNAL WAR.

YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE MAKES

IT VERY CLEAR, AND I WANT

TO REPEAT IT BECAUSE IT IS

SO IMPORTANT: "A HOUSE

DIVIDED AGAINST ITSELF

CANNOT STAND."

A KINGDOM AGAINST ITSELF

CANNOT STAND.

IF OUR NATION IS DIVIDED

AGAINST ITSELF, ON THE ONE

HAND YOU'VE GOT DEMOCRATS

WHO ARE DOING ANYTHING

THEY CAN TO POSSIBLY CAN

TO FRUSTRATE THE

PRESIDENT -- ANYTHING THEY

CAN POSSIBLY DO TO OPPOSE

HIM -- ALL RIGHT, THAT'S

BAD.

NOW YOU'VE GOT A MAJOR

PARTY THAT IS THE ONE IN

GOVERNMENT STARTING TO

FIGHT AMONG ITSELF.

THE BIBLE SAYS VERY

CLEARLY, THEY HAVE ONE

MIND AND THEY SPEAK WITH

ONE VOICE.

NOW NOTHING THEY PROPOSE

TO DO WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE

TO THEM.

THERE IS NOTHING

IMPOSSIBLE FOR THIS GREAT

NATION OF OURS IF WE'RE

TOGETHER.

BUT NOTHING WILL BE

POSSIBLE IF WE'RE FIGHTING

EACH OTHER.

PLEASE, MR. PRESIDENT,

LET'S STOP FIGHTING.

LET'S START LOVING EACH

OTHER.

LET'S WORK TOGETHER.

INDEED, AMERICA CAN BE

GREAT AGAIN.

LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN.

JOHN?

John: PAT, FOUR DAYS

OF ROUND-THE-CLOCK PRAYER

FOR AMERICA RIGHT HERE IN

A WASHINGTON CULMINATING

ON MONDAY WITH AN EVENT

CALLED "RISE UP," A

MASSIVE GATHERING OF

MAINLY WOMEN FROM ALL OVER

THE COUNTRY.

WENDY GRIFFITH BRINGS US

THIS STORY.

*

[APPLAUSE]

AN INCREDIBLE, POWERFUL

DAY OF PRAYER HERE ON THE

D.C. MALL.

DESPITE THE RAIN, TENS OF

THOUSANDS OF WOMEN, AND A

LOT OF MEN, HAVE COME OUT

TO PRAYER, TO CRY OUT TO

GOD ON BEHALF OF THEIR

CHILDREN, THEIR FAMILIES,

AND OUR NATION.

THE HOUR OF BIRTHING

SOMETHING FOR AMERICA IS

HERE.

Wendy: LOU ENGEL SAYS

THIS EVENT WAS BIRTHED IN

A DREAM, WHERE HE SAW A

HUGE GATHERING OF WOMEN

CALLED TO SAVE THEIR

NATION.

WHO, LIKE ESTHER IN THE

BIBLE, WAS CALLED TO SAVE

HER PEOPLE.

THERE WERE CERTAIN

POWERS OF DARKNESS IN

AMERICA THAT COULD ONLY BE

BROKEN BY WOMEN.

IT WAS THE HOUR WHERE

WITCHES WORLDWIDE WERE

CURSING PRESIDENT TRUMP,

AND THIS FEMINIST MOVEMENT

RISING THAT IS NOT FOUNDED

ON THE WORD OF GOD IS

FUNDING PLANNED

PARENTHOOD.

AND I KNEW IT WAS A TIME

TO CALL THE ESTHERS.

Wendy: NICOLE C.

MULLEN SAYS SHE FELT

COMPELLED TO BE HERE.

AFTER THEY PUT OUT THE

VISION OF WE'RE CALLING

DEBRAS AND ESTHERS TO COME

TO D.C., TO COME ON BEHALF

OF LIFE AND EACH OTHER,

AND JUST BREAKING DOWN THE

RACIAL DIVIDE THAT EXISTS.

WHEN THEY PUT THAT CALL

OUT, I WAS, LIKE,

ABSOLUTELY.

IF I HAVE TO RIDE MY

BICYCLE, I'M COMING, YOU

KNOW?

THE CHURCH HAS

SOMETIMES HAD A PROBLEM

WITH WOMEN LEADING.

I THINK IT IS BEAUTIFUL

THAT WE CAN BE FEMININE

AND WE CAN BE LEADERS AND

WE CAN FOLLOW CHRIST AND

BRING THE CHURCH INTO ITS

HIGHER CALLING.

WE ARE GOING TO FIGHT

FOR TRUTH!

FEMINISTS COME TOGETHER

BUT ONLY FOR WHAT BENEFITS

WOMEN.

AND GOD WILL NOT BLESS

WHAT DOES NOT BENEFIT ALL.

IT IS LIKE A COUNTER OF

THE WOMEN'S MARCH THAT

HAPPENED AFTER THE

INAUGURATION, AND IT IS

STANDING ON ALSO WHAT THE

BIBLE SAYS WOMEN ARE.

AND WE'RE NOT INDEPENDENT,

BUT WE'RE DEPENDENT ON

GOD.

IT IS A BEAUTIFUL THING TO

BE A PART OF.

Wendy: IN AN AGE

WHERE ABORTION RIGHTS HAVE

COME TO BE EQUATED IN THE

MINDS OF MANY TO WOMEN'S

RIGHTS, THESE WOMEN CALLED

OUT TO END ABORTION IN

AMERICA.

THEY PUT TAPE OVER THEIR

MOUTH WITH THE WORD "LIFE"

TO REPRESENT THE SILENT

CRIES OF THE UNBORN.

GOD IS SAYING IT IS THE

HOUR FOR WOMEN.

AND IN MANY WAYS, WOMEN

TURN THE TIDE OF HISTORY.

WE NEED YOU, WOMEN OF GOD,

RIGHT NOW TO GIVE BIRTH TO

A NEW DAY OF SALVATION IN

AMERICA.

Wendy: WENDY

GRIFFITH, CBN NEWS, ON THE

NATIONAL MALL.

John: THANKS, WENDY.

> THIS YEAR'S BIBLICAL

FEAST OF TABERNACLE

CELEBRATION IN ISRAEL ALSO

MARKS THE 50th

ANNIVERSARY OF THE SIX-DAY

WAR.

IT IS TAKING

FESTIVAL-GOERS BACK IN

TIME FOR THAT AMAZING

STORY.

Reporter: GORDON

ROBERTSON SAYS IF YOU

DON'T UNDERSTAND THE

HISTORY, YOU CAN'T

UNDERSTAND TODAY'S

HEADLINES.

I THINK THAT IS PART OF

THE PURPOSE OF "IN OUR

HANDS," NOT ONLY TO

COMMEMORATE AND CELEBRATE

WHAT THESE SOLDIERS DID 50

YEARS AGO, BUT ALSO TO

HELP EDUCATE AND INSPIRE

US.

"IN OUR HANDS: THE BATTLE

FOR JERUSALEM" FOLLOWS THE

LIVES OF THE PA PARATROOPERS

WHO CAPTURED THE TEMPLE

MOUNT IN 1967.

WE SAID, THIS IS THE

PROPER WAY TO TELL THE

STORY, WHEN IT IS DONE

WITH THE PARATROOPERS WHO

ACTUALLY FOUGHT FOR THIS

CITY, AND WITH ACTUAL

FOOTAGE, AND THE

REENACTMENTS, LIKE "IN OUR

HANDS," IT IS THE PERFECT

WAY TO TELL THE STORY.

Chris: DAVID PARSONS

SAYS THAT IS WHY THEY MADE

THE FILM A CENTRAL FEATURE

OF THIS YEAR'S FEAST.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE

SEVERAL OF THE

PARATROOPERS THAT ARE IN

THE FILM "IN OUR HANDS" ON

STAGE TO HONOR THEM.

Chris: PARSONS SAID

CHRISTIANS SHOULDN'T

FORGET THE SIGNIFICANCE OF

A UNITED JERUSALEM.

IF THE CITY WAS STILL

DIVIDED LIKE IT WAS FOR

THOSE 19 YEARS OF

JORDANIAN OCCUPATION AND

YOU CAME HERE TO VISIT,

YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO

THROUGH ALL SORTS OF

CHECKPOINTS.

IT IS SO WONDERFUL NOW TO

BE ABLE TO COME TO A

UNITED AND OPEN AND FREE

CITY, AND TO CELEBRATE

THIS NOW, AND EVEN THE

PROPHETIC SIGNIFICANCE,

WHAT IT MEANS IN GOD'S

TIMETABLE.

IT IS LIKE JERUSALEM IS

GOD'S TIME PIECE.

Chris: THESE

PARTICIPANTS ENJOYED THE

FILM.

THIS FILM WAS

ABSOLUTELY SPECTACULAR.

THE DRAMATIZATION WAS

GREAT, AND GREAT

PERFORMANCES.

IT IS REALLY TOUCHING.

AND IT HELPS US TO LOVE

MORE THE PEOPLE OF THIS

LAND.

Chris: THEY ALSO

RECEIVED D.V.D.s TO TAKE

HOME AND SPREAD THE WORD.

I'M EVEN THINKING OF

TAKING IT BACK HOME AND

SCREENING IT FOR MY YOUTH,

AND ALSO AT THE CHURCH.

BUT I THINK THIS VIDEO

WILL HAVE A HUGE IMPACT.

I REALLY WEEPE WEEPED MANY

TIMES WHEN I SAW IT.

I THOUGHT THAT I REALLY

WANT TO BRING THIS FILM TO

THE MAINLAND, TO SEE THE

REALITY OF WHAT HAPPENED

HERE IN 1967.

IT SPOKE TO ME.

AND I WILL HAVE THIS IN MY

HEART.

IT HELPS ME TO PRAY EVEN

MORE IN THE WORD, TO PRAY

FOR JERUSALEM AND FOR THE

PEACE OF JERUSALEM.

Chris: CHRIS

MITCHELL, CBN NEWS,

JERUSALEM.

John: PAT, THAT CBN

FILM IS STILL MAKING

WAVES.

Pat: WELL, IT WAS A

GREAT EFFORT.

I THINK -- YOU'VE GOT A

COPY?

Terry: I DO.

BECAUSE WE WANT OUR

VIEWERS TO KNOW THAT YOU,

TOO, CAN HAVE A COPY OF

THIS FOR A GIFT OF $15 OR

MORE.

JUST CALL OUR TOLL-FREE

NUMBER, 1-800-700-7000.

OR YOU CAN GO TO cbn.com

AND ORDER IT THERE.

"IN OUR HANDS: THE BATTLE

FOR JERUSALEM."

IT IS TOUCHING LIVES.

Pat: IT IS ONE OF THE

MOST IMPORTANT PROPHECIES.

YOU READ THE BIBLE, AND

YOU SAY, CAN I DISCERN

SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT IS

GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE

FUTURE?

WELL, WHAT IS GOING TO

HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE IS SO

CLEARLY DELI DELINEATEED DELINEATED BY THE

LORD JESUS WHEN SHE SAID,

"JERUSALEM WILL BE TRODDEN

UNDER THE FEET OF THE

GENTILES, UNTIL THE TIME

OF THE GENTILES IS

FULFILLED."

ANOTHER WAY OF READING IT

WOULD BE SO SAY, WHEN

JERUSALEM IS NO LONGER

UNDER THE FOOT OF THE

GENTILES, THEN THE TIMES

OF THE GENTILES WILL BE

OVER.

NOW, WHAT ARE THE TIMES OF

THE GENTILES?

WE HAVE TO FIGURE THAT ONE

OUT.

BUT WE DO KNOW, WITHOUT

QUESTION, DURING THE

SIX-DAY WAR, JERUSALEM WAS

LIBERATED, AND EAST

JERUSALEM WAS JOINED TO

WEST JERUSALEM.

AND THE WHOLE CITY BECAME

THE JEWISH CAPITAL.

AND WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE

THIS IS A PROPHETIC EVENT.

AND GOD ALMIGHTY -- AND I

WANT TO SAY THIS WITH

GREAT CLARITY -- GOD

ALMIGHTY IS GOING TO MOVE

HEAVEN AND EARTH TO KEEP

THAT PROPHECY FROM BEING

FRUSTRATED BECAUSE THIS

WAS THE SPOKEN WORD OF THE

SON OF GOD.

AND WITHOUT CLARIFICATION

OR EQUIVOCATION, IT WAS

JERUSALEM WILL BE TRODDEN

UNDER THE FOOT OF THE

GENTILES.

FROM 587 ON, THE GENTILES

UNDER E EBCANEZZER -- WHEN

PEOPLE TRY TO TAKE IT

AWAY, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO

SUCCEED.

AND THE UNITED NATIONS CAN

GOING TO TRY TO TAKE IT

AWAY, AND THEY'RE NOT

GOING TO SUCCEED.

BECAUSE GOD ALMIGHTY IS

GOING TO FIGHT FOR

JERUSALEM.

KEEP THAT IN MIND, HEE IS

NO, HE ISNOT GOING TO LET JERUSALEM

BE DIVIDED AGAIN.

IF AMERICA WANTS TO GET ON

THE SIDE OF GOD, WE MIGHT

AS WELL RECOGNIZE THAT IS

THE ETERNAL CAPITAL OF

ISRAEL AND GET WITH THE

PROGRAM BECAUSE THAT'S

WHAT GOD SAID.

SO JERUSALEM WILL BE

TRODDEN UNDER THE FOOT OF

THE GENTILES, UNTIL THE

TIMES OF THE GENTILES.

DOES THAT MEAN THE GREAT

GENTILE KINGDOMS ARE

COMING TO AN END?

I THINK THAT IS CORRECT.

I THINK THE TURMOIL WE'RE

SEEING IN EUROPE, THE

TURMOIL WE'RE SEEING IN

AMERICA, THE TURMOIL WE'RE

SEEING IN NORT NORTH KOREAIA

AND AROUND THE WORLD, THAT

IS PART OF THE BIRTH PANGS

OF A NEW ORDER.

AND THE NEW ORDER IS THE

BREAKUP OF THE GENTILE

DOMINATION, AND ISRAEL

WILL RISE UP TO A PLACE OF

HONOR IN THE KINGDOMS OF

THIS WORLD.

WATCH YOUR NEWSPAPERS.

READ THE BIBLE AND SEE

WHAT IT SAYS.

TERRY?

Terry: AND GET "IN

OUR HANDS."

> WELL, COMING UP, MEET

A MAN WHO DEVELOPED SEVERE

BREATHING AND WALKING

PROBLEMS.

I HAVE A DISEASE THAT

APPARENTLY IS NOT GOING TO

GET BETTER.

AND IT'S PROGRESSIVE.

I TOOK THE STATIN DRUG.

IT TRIGGERED SOMETHING.

Terry: AND THIS MAN

IS NOT ALONE.

HEAR HOW THOUSANDS OF

PEOPLE ARE REPORTING

DEVASTATING REACTIONS TO

STATIN DRUGS, AFTER THIS.

Pat: MAJOR PHARMACY

MAKES BILLIONS WHEN THEY

GET A REAL WINNER.

WHEN THEY HAVE A WINNER,

IT IS WORTH BILLIONS.

AND THE HORSE THEY RODE TO

MULTI-BILLION SUCCESS WAS

SOMETHING CALLED LIPITOR.

AND THESE ARE SO-CALLED

STATIN DRUGS, WHICH HAVE

BEEN PREACHED ACROSS THE

NATION, THAT THEY WERE THE

ANSWER TO YOUR HEART

PROBLEM.

I TRUST MY HEART TO

LIPITOR -- YOU REMEMBER

THOSE COMMERCIALS?

AND THEY SOUNDED SO REAL.

AND EVERYBODY WAS TAKING

STALSTATINS.

AND DOCTORS WERE SAYING,

THESE ARE THE ANSWERS.

YOU'VE GOT TO LOWER YOUR

CHOLESTEROL.

WELL, NOW DRUG RESEARCHERS

ARE FINDING OUT THAT

WASN'T CORRECT.

AND MANY DOCTORS AND

PATIENTS HAVE BEGUN HAVING

SERIOUS THOUGHTS ABOUT THE

EFFECTS OF THESE STATIN

DRUGS.

WHAT DO THEY DO TO YOU?

IT ISN'T ALL BENIGN, EVEN

THOUGH IT IS BRINGING

BILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO

THE PHARM PHARMA PHARMACEUTICAL

COFFERS.

LORIE JOHNSON SHOWS US THE

ANSWER.

Lorie: DAVID BLAMES

STATINS FOR RUINING HIS

LIFE AND KILLING HIS DREAM

OF A RETIREMENT FILLED

WITH TRAVEL.

HE SAYS TAKING THE DRUG

CAUSED SUCH SEVERE WALKING

AND BREATHING PROBLEMS, HE

IS BASICALLY HOMEBOUND.

I HAVE A DISEASE THAT

APPARENTLY IS NOT GOING TO

GET BETTER, AND IT IS

PROGRESSIVE.

AND I TOOK THE STATIN

DRUG, AND IT TRIGGERED

SOMETHING.

Lorie: ALTHOUGH DAVID

FELT GREAT, HIS DOCTOR

PRESCRIBED A STATIN

BECAUSE HE FELT DAVID'S

L.D.L., OR BAD

CHOLESTEROL, WAS TOO HIGH.

THE FIRST SIGN I HAD A

PROBLEM, I WOKE UP

SCREAMING.

Lorie: STATIN'S SIDE

EFFECTS INCLUDE MEMORY

LOSS, MUSCLE WEAKNESS AND

CONFUSION.

SOME STATIN USERS SAY

THEIR PROBLEMS ARE

PERMANENT.

THERE IS A WHOLE

INDUSTRY SAYING IT IS NOT

FROM THE STATIN DRUG.

MY DOCTOR SAID, YOU HAVE A

SYSTEMIC DISEASE, THE

CARDIOLOGIST WHO PUSHED

THIS ON ME -- YOU HAVE A

SYSTEMIC DISEASE.

BUT HE SAID, IT IS NOT

FROM THE STATIN DRUG.

I SAID, WHAT'S IT FROM?

AND HE SAID, I DON'T KNOW.

Lorie: DAVID IS ONE

OF THOUSANDS ON THE WEB

AND SOCIAL MEDIA REPORTING

DEVASTATE, EVEN FATAL

REACTIONS, AFTER TAKING A

STATIN TO LITTLE AVAIL.

YOU CAN'T PROVE IT.

YOU CAN'T DISAPPROVE IT.

AND NO ONE WILL MAKE MONEY

FROM STUDYING IT.

Lorie: CLEVELAND

CLINIC CARDIOLOGIST LESLIE

CHO WORRY THAT STORIES

LIKE THIS MIGHT DISCOURAGE

OVER ALL STATIN USE.

FOR US TO SAY I THINK

PEOPLE ARE TAKING TOO MUCH

STATIN THERAPY, AND FOR

YOUR VIEWERS WHO NEED IT

BECAUSE THEY HAD A HEART

ATTACK OR STROKE, TO THEN

TAKE THEMSELVES OFF WOULD

BE A HORRENDOUS

DISSERVICE.

Lorie: AND SHE SAYS,

NOT ONLY SHOULD PATIENTS

STICK WITH THE DRUG, BUT

THAT MORE SHOULD TAKE IT.

THERE IS GREAT EVIDENCE

IF YOU HAVE LOW

CHOLESTEROL, YOU LIVE

LONGER, HAVE LESS HEART

ATTACK, LESS DEMENTIA,

LESS STROKE.

THESE CHOLESTEROL-LOWERING

MEDMEDICINES HAVE BEEN

STUDIED OVER ONE MILLION

PEOPLE.

Lorie: WHILE

PROPONENTS OF

CHOLESTEROL-LOWERING

STATINS SAY MEDICAL

EVIDENCE PROOFS THE DRUG

SAVES LIVES, THERE ARE

OTHERS IN THE MEDICAL

COMMUNITY WHO SAY THAT

RESEARCH IS DEEPLY FLAWED.

HARVARD'S DR. JOHN

ABRAMSON CLAIMED DRUG

COMPANIES PAID FOR THE

STUDIES.

WHEN THE DRUG COMPANIES

UNDERTAKE RESEARCH, THEIR

PRIMARY GOAL IS TO PRODUCE

WHAT IS TAKEN FOR

KNOWLEDGE THAT WILL

INCREASE THEIR DRUG SALES.

Lorie: HE SAYS THAT

CONTROL ALLOWS COMPANIES

TO KEEP THE RAW DATA

SECRET AND RELEASE ONLY

WHAT MAKES THEIR PRODUCT

LOOK GOOD.

THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT

DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT

IS PUBLISHED IN EVEN THE

BEST JOURNALS AND THE DATA

THAT EXISTS IN THE PRIMARY

FORM THAT YOU CAN ONLY GET

ACCESS TO IN LITIGATION.

IT'S CORPORATE SECRETS.

Lorie: IN SHORT, HE

SAYS DOCTORS ARE BEING

SCAMMED.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE

STORY THAT'S TOLD BY THE

DRUG COMPANIES,

UNVERIFIED, THINKING THAT

THAT'S THE REAL EVIDENCE.

Lorie: HE RECOMMENDS

INDEPENDENT EXPERTS

ANALYZE ALL OF THE

RESEARCH BEFORE PUBLISHING

THE RESULTS TO FIX THIS

PROBLEM.

HE ALSO SUGGESTED THAT

STUDIES COMPARE THE

RESULTS OF TAKING THE DRUG

VERSUS LIFESTYLE CHANGES.

EXERCISING ROUTINELY,

NOT SMOKING, ADDRESSING

THE STRESS IN YOUR LIFE,

EATING A HEALTHY DIET,

THAT IS PROBABLY FOUR

TIMES MORE IMPORTANT THAN

THE CONVERSATION ABOUT

STATINS.

Lorie: THE STATISTICS

SHOW OUT OF 83 USERS,

STATINS PREVENT ONLY ONE

CARDIOVASCULAR DEATH.

I THINK WE LOWERED OUR

CHOLESTEROL TOO MUCH.

Lorie: WHEN IT COMES

TO HEART DISEASE, THIS

CARDIOLOGIST AND OTHER

DOCTORS WANT THE FOCUS

MOVED FROM CHOLESTEROL TO

HIGH TRIGLYCERIDES, A

BLOOD TEST OFTEN

OVERLOOKED.

SO WHEN YOU EAT A DIET

THAT IS FULL OF SIMPLE

SUGARS, BREADS, PASTAS,

YOUR TRY GLI TRIGLYCERIDES GO UP.

Lorie: WHEN

TRIGLYCERIDES GO UP, GOOD

CHOLESTEROL GOES DOWN.

BUT BOTH CAN BE IMPROVED

SIMULTANEOUSLY.

I PUT PEOPLE ON A LOW

CARBOHYDRATE LIFESTYLE,

WITH GOOD FAT FROM AF

AVOCADOS AND SEEDS, AND I

PUT THEM ON OILS, BECAUSE

OMEGA-3 DECREASES

CHOLESTEROL.

Lorie: HE SAYS

RAISING H.D.L. STRENGTHENS

THE HEART AND IMMUNE

SYSTEM.

HE RECOMMENDS H.D.L.

LEVELS AROUND 50 AND

TRIGLYCERIDES AT AROUND

150.

SO WHILE MOST DOCTORS

AGREE STATINS ARE HELPFUL

FOR SOME PATIENTS, WITH

ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS,

YOU SHOULD FEEL FREE TO

TALK TO YOUR DOCTOR ABOUT

WHETHER ONE IS RIGHT FOR

YOU.

LORIE JOHNSON, CBN NEWS.

Pat: WELL, I'LL TELL

YOU, I'M AN ANTI-STATIN

PERSON BECAUSE IT BRINGS

ABOUT ACHES AND PAINS IN

THE MUSCLES.

AND, YOU KNOW, EGGS AREN'T

GOING TO HURT YOU.

THE TRUTH IS WE NEED

CHOLESTEROL IN OUR BRAINS.

THE BRAIN IS A LOT OF

CHOLESTEROL.

AND TO FUNCTION PROPERLY,

IT NEEDS CHOLESTEROL.

SO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF

THESE ATKINS DIETS AND

SOUTH BEACH DIETS AND

OTHERS -- I THINK HEALTHY

OLIVE OIL, MONO SATURATED

FATS AND THAT SORT OF

THING, ARE GOOD FOR YOU.

THE IDEA I HAVE TO CUT

DOWN ON CHOLESTEROL AND

LOWER THE CHOLESTEROL --

I'M NOT A CARDIOLOGIST, SO

SOME DOCTOR MAY SIT THERE

AND SAY, YOU JACKASS, YOU

DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE

TALKING ABOUT.

WELL, I KNOW ENOUGH TO

KNOW THESE THINGS ARE

HARMFUL TO PEOPLE.

I'VE HAD TOO MANY FRIENDS

WHO TOLD ME ABOUT WHAT

THESE STATIN DRUGS CAN

DONE TO THEM.

AND ACHES AND PAINS AND

SUFFERING ARE A ATTENDANT

TO THEM.

AND WE'VE GOT TO GET THEM

UNDER CONTROL.

Terry: WHAT IS SO

CRAZY IS THAT THE RESEARCH

IS DONE BY PEOPLE WITH A

BIAS.

Pat: OF COURSE.

Terry: THAT SHOULDN'T

AND ACCEPTABLE, PERIOD.

Pat: AND WE'RE

TALKING ABOUT BILLIONS OF

DOLLARS.

LIPITOR WAS JUST A HUGE

WINNER, I MEAN FOR THE

PHARMACEUTICALS.

I FORGET WHO HAD LIPITOR,

BUT IT WAS A HUGE SUCCESS.

AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY --

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

OKAY.

SO MUCH, LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN, YOU'VE HEARD IT

HERE.

Terry: TIME FOR SOME

QUESTIONS AND HONEST

ANSWERS.

Pat: I'LL GIVE YOU

SOME HONEST ANSWERS.

ALL RIGHT.

EAT EGGS.

[LAUGHTER]

Pat: I EAT EGGS.

EVERY MORNING I HAVE EGGS.

BUT I ALSO HAVE BEANS AND

STUFF LIKE THAT.

[LAUGHTER]

Terry: YOU'RE

HEALTHY.

OKAY, THIS FIRST QUESTION,

PAT, COMES FROM MIMI WHO

SAYS, "IS IT EVERY OKAY TO

LEAVE A MARRIAGE?

I'VE BEEN MARRIED FOR 27

AND A HALF YEARS.

MY HUSBAND HAS HAD

MULTIPLE AFFAIRS.

HE IS IN ANOTHER JOB, AND

HE HAS BEEN TALKING WITH

THE FEMALE CO-WORKERS ON A

DAILY BASIS.

HE SAYS SHE IS JUST A

FRIEND.

HEARD THAT BEFORE.

SHE CALLS AT 7:30 a.m.

AND OFTEN HE WON'T ANSWER

IN MY PRESENCE.

I'VE PRAYED HE CHANGES,

BUT HE DOESN'T.

HOW DO I HAND THIS?

I'M ALMOST 60 AND I AM SO

TIRED."

Pat: OF COURSE YOUR

TIRED.

WHAT A MESS.

THE BIBLE SAYS -- OKAY,

LEAVE A MARRIAGE -- THERE

ARE CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS TO

THIS THING ABOUT DIVORCE.

ADULTERY IS A GROUND FOR

BREAKING A MARRIAGE.

PAUL GAVE THE PAULINE

EXCEPTION, IF THE

UNBELIEVER IS PLEASED TO

DEPART, THE BROTHER OR

SISTER IS NOT BOUND.

I THINK IN A CASE LIKE

THIS, THIS HUSBAND IS NOT

GOING TO CHANGE.

HE IS SET IN HIS WAYS.

HE HAS BEEN HAVING, QUOTE,

"MULTIPLE AFFAIRS," AND

NOW HE HAS A CO-WORKER AND

HE THINKS SHE IS CUTE AND

HE IS ON THE PHONE WITH

HER AND SO FORTH.

SO I WOULD -- IF YOU KIND

OF LIKE WHAT YOUR DOING,

THEN I THINK I WOULD GET A

LAWYER TO PUT THE FEAR OF

GOD INTO THIS MAN AND LET

HIM KNOW WHAT THE

CONSEQUENCES ARE OF HIS

ACTIONS.

AS LONG AS HE DOESN'T HAVE

ANY PRICE TO PAY, HE WILL

CONTINUED TO DO WHAT HE

DOES.

IF YOU MAKE SOME PRICE

ALONG THE WAY, THEN MAYBE,

MAYBE, MAYBE HE'LL REFORM.

WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS

PRAY.

YOU WANT TO PRAY, GOD

STRAIGHTEN THIS THING OUT.

GOD IS ALWAYS ON THE SIDE

OF RESTORATION NOT OF

BREAKING UP.

HE IS ON THE SIDE OF

RESTORATION.

Terry: THIS IS CINDY

WHO SAYS, "I KNOW GOD DOES

MIRACLES WHEN CHRISTIANS

GET SICK.

IS TAKING MEDICINE SHOWING

A LACK OF FAITH?

DOES GOING INTO A PHARMACY

MEAN WE'RE TAKING MATTERS

INTO OUR HANDS AND NOT

TRUSTING GOD TO HEAL US?

WHEN I GET SICK, WHAT IS

THE RIGHT WAY TO DEAL WITH

IT?"

Pat: I THINK THAT

MEDICINE IS A GIFT OF GOD.

AND THE MEDICAL KNOWLEDGE

WE HAVE ACQUIRED OVER THE

YEARS IS A TREMENDOUS GIFT

THAT THE LORD HAS PLACED

IN OUR HANDS.

I USED TO BE OF THE

OPINION IF YOU TOOK

MEDICINE, YOU DIDN'T HAVE

FAITH.

BUT I DON'T AGREE WITH

THAT NOW.

I'M THE RECIPIENT OF A

TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF

MEDICINE.

I HAVE A PACEMAKER.

I'M LIKE THE OLD CAR, THEY

PUT A NEW TRANSMISSION IN,

THEY PUT A NEW ACCELERATOR

IN.

Terry: IT TAKES A

LICKIN' AND KEEPS ON

TICKIN'.

Pat: AND AT OUR

UNIVERSITY WE JUST HELPED

A PART FOR HEALTH CARE

SCIENCES.

BUT LET'S NOT DIMINISH THE

ROLE OF HEALING.

I BELIEVE IN MIRACLES AND

WE HAVE SEEN MANY ANSWERS

TO PRAYER.

WE HAVE SEEN MANY

THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS

HEALED FROM THE POWER OF

PRAYER.

BUT IF YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR

FAITH IN THAT PILL INSTEAD

OF IN GOD, I THINK YOU'RE

MAKING A MISTAKE.

PUT YOUR FAITH IN GOD.

HE IS THE ULTIMATE HEALER.

A GOOD DOCTOR WILL TELL

YOU THAT DOCTORS DON'T

HEAHEAL; GOD HEALS.

Terry: THIS IS

MICHAEL, PAT, WHO IS

QUOTING HEBREWS 10: 26-27:

"FOR IF WE SIN WILLFULLY

AFTER WE HAVE RECEIVED THE

KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH,

THERE NO LONGER REMAINS A

SACRIFICE OF THE SIN, BUT

FIERY INDIGNATION THAT

WILL DEVOUR THE

ADVERSARIES.

WHAT DOES THIS SCRIPTURE

MEAN?"

Pat: HE IS TALKING

ABOUT AP POTOTHASIZE -- IF WE

LITERALLY DEPIE DESPISE THE

BLOOD OF JESUS, THAT IS

WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT,

APOTHASY.

NOT IF YOU HAVE AN AFFAIR,

OR YOU TELL A LIE, THOSE

THINGS GOD WILL FORGIVE.

Terry: THIS IS A

VIEWER WHO SAID 2

CORINTHIANS 5 SAYS, QUOTE,

""WE'LL HAVE AN ETERNAL

BODY MADE FOR US BY GOD IN

HEAVEN.

SO DOES THIS MEAN WE WILL

HAVE A PHYSICAL BODY, OR

WILL WE JUST BE SPIRITS IN

HEAVEN?"

Pat: I'LL TELL YOU

WHAT, DON'T GET TOO

LITERAL WITH WHAT WORDS

ARE IN THE BIBLE.

IT SAYS THE LITTLE HILLS

SKIP LIKE RAMS.

DO YOU REALLY THINK THE

HILLS ARE SKIPPING?

IT IS POETRY.

THE WRITERS OF THE BIBLE

WERE ATTEMPTING TO BRING

ETERNAL TRUTH INTO A

MATERIALISTIC WORLD.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING

TO HAVE BODIES LIKE THE

BODIES WE'VE GOT.

AND YOU CAN GO AND READ

OTHER THINGS THAT THE

APOSTLE PAUL HAS SAID.

WE'RE GOING TO BE SPIRITS.

OUR BODY WILL BE A

SPIRITUAL BODY.

AND HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU

PLANT SOME SEED AND YOU

HAVE SOME CORN AND YOU PUT

SOME SEEDS IN THE GROUND,

AND WHAT KIND OF BODY IS

IT GOING TO HAVE?

LOOK WHAT COMES UP, I

MEAN, BEAUTIFUL STALKS OF

WHEAT.

IT DOESN'T BEAR ANY

RESEMBLANCE OF THE SEED

THAT WENT INTO THE GROUND.

WE WILL PLANT THESE BODIES

THAT WE HAVE.

AND GOD IS GOING TO GIVE

US SOMETHING THAT IS

SPIRITUAL AND ETERNAL.

BUT IT WON'T BE, QUOTE, "A

BODY" LIKE YOU AND I THINK

ABOUT.

LET'S FACE IT, JESUS --

THEY RECOGNIZED HIM.

HE LOOKED LIKE THE PERSON

THEY HAD KNOWN ON EARTH.

BUT CAN GOD -- GOD IS ABLE

TO GIVE PERCEPTION OF A

SPIRITUAL BEING.

I THINK A SPIRITUAL BODY

COULD BECOME A PHYSICAL

BODY AND THEN GO TO

SOMETHING ELSE.

YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE

COMPLETE FLEXIBILITY IN

HEAVEN, WHICH IS A NICE

THING.

Terry: THAT'S ALL OF

THE TIME WEE HAV WE HAVE FOR

ANSWERS TODAY.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR

QUESTIONS AND YOUR

ANSWERS.

> UP NEXT, THE TRUE

STORY THAT HAS BEEN MADE

INTO A MOVIE.

WE DON'T SHARE THE SAME

LIFE.

WE DON'T SHARE ANYTHING.

YOU CAN LEAVE.

Terry: RON HALL TELLS

THE REAL-LIFE STORY BEHIND

"THE SAME KIND OF

DIFFERENCE," AFTER THIS.

Terry: IT STARTED

Terry: IT STARTED

WITH A DREAM OF A WOMAN

NAMED DEBBIE HALL.

SHE DREAMED ABOUT A WISE

MAN WHO CHANGES THE CITY.

WELL, HER DREAM CAME TRUE

AND PRODUCED A

BEST-SELLING BOOK, A

MOVIE, AND A MOVEMENT.

TAKE A LOOK.

Reporter: RON HALL

WAS AN INTERNATIONAL ART

DEALER WITH MORE MONEY

THAN HE AND HIS WIFE,

DEBBIE, COULD EVER

POSSIBLY NEED.

THEY HAD EVERYTHING BUT A

LOVING MARRIAGE.

WE DON'T SHARE THE SAME

LIFE.

WE DON'T SHARE ANYTHING!

YOU CAN LEAVE.

Reporter: WHEN RON'S

UNFAITHFULNESS WAS BROUGHT

TO LIFE, DEBBIE ASKED RON

TO SERVE WITH HER AT AN

INNER CITY RESCUE MISSION.

IT WAS THERE THAT THEIR

LIVES WERE CHANGED FOREVER

WHEN DEBBIE BEFRIENDED A

HOMELESS MAN NAMED DENVER.

A NEW MOVIE HITS THEATERS

ON DECEMBER 20th, "SAME

KIND OF DIFFERENT HAS ME,"

AND IT IS BASED ON THE

TRUE STORY FROM THE

BEST-SELLING BOOK.

I WAS WORRIED I WAS SO

DIFFERENT FROM A LOT OF

PEOPLE.

BUT WHAT I FOUND OUT WAS

EVERYBODY IS DIFFERENT.

Terry: PLEASE WELCOME

TO "THE 700 CLUB," RON

HALL.

IT IS WONDERFUL TO HAVE

YOU HERE.

THANK YOU, TERRY.

Terry: YOU'RE

MARRIAGE WITH DEBBIE WAS

ACTUALLY IN TROUBLE WHEN

YOU GUYS FIRST STARTED

WORKING TOGETHER AT THIS

HOMELESS CENTER.

TELL ME ABOUT WHERE THINGS

WERE AT?

WHEN WE STARTED WORKING

THERE, WE HAD PUT THINGS

BACK TOGETHER, BUT JUST A

FEW YEARS BEFORE THAT, OUR

LIVES HAD TAKEN -- WE WERE

BOTH BELIEVERS, BUT I

CHOSE TO STRAY.

AND I MADE A VERY

CONSCIOUS TO DO IT.

IT WAS NO ACCIDENT.

I MADE A CONSCIOUS

DECISION TO DESTROY A

MARRIAGE.

AND SHE GAVE ME

CHRIST-LIKE FORGIVENESS

AND NEVER BROUGHT IT UP

AGAIN, ONLY TO PROMISE

THAT I WOULD NOT BE

UNFAITHFUL AGAIN, AND THAT

I WOULD -- AND FOR THAT I

PROMISED HER I WOULD DO

ANYTHING SHE ASKED ME THE

REST OF OUR LIVES

TOGETHER.

SO IT WAS JUST A FEW YEARS

LATER THAT SHE HAD THE

DREAM OF A HOMELESS MAN

AND SHE ASKED ME TO BE HIS

FRIEND.

Terry: FIRST OF ALL,

TELL US ABOUT HER DREAM,

AND THEN SHE SAID, I WANT

YOU TO BE A FRIEND TO THAT

GUY.

WE HAD JUST MOVED INTO

OUR DREAM HOME IN FORT

WORTH, TEXAS, WHICH I HAD

WANTED TO BUILD FOR YEARS

TO HOUSE OUR ART

COLLECTION.

WE WERE ART COLLECTORS AND

I WAS AN ART DEALER.

IN THIS DREAM HOME, SHE

BEGAN TO DREAM.

AND SHE DREAMED OF THE

MOST BEAUTIFUL HOMELESS

MISSION THAT WOULD EVER BE

BUILT.

AND THE SECOND NIGHT SHE

DREAMED A LITERAL DREAM OF

A MAN, AND SHE SAID IT WAS

LIKE A VERSE IN

ECCLESIASTES 9: 16: "THERE

WAS FOUND IN THE CITY A

CERTAIN POWER MAN WHO WAS

WISE, AND BY HIS WISDOM,

HE CHANGED THE CITY."

AND SHE SAID, I BELIEVE IF

WE CAN FIND THIS MAN IN

OUR DREAM, I'LL KNOW IT IS

FROM GOD AND WE'LL SEE

REVIVAL IN O OU OUR CITY.

AND THAT MORNING SHE ASKED

ME TO GO WITH HER TO LOOK

FOR THIS MAN OF HER

DREAMS.

WE STARTED DRIVING AROUND

THE INNER CITY --

Terry: IT IS AMAZING

THAT YOU DID THIS.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT'S

THE FIRST THING SHE HAD

ASKED ME TO DO.

AND I'M STILL BELIEVING

THAT I NEED TO PAY THE

PRICE.

Terry: YOU'RE

FOLLOWING YOUR PROMISE.

YES.

> SO WE STARTED DRIVING

AROUND.

AND WE STOPPED TO START

SERVING AN EVENING MEAL AT

THE HOMELESS SHELTER,

WHICH IS CALLED "THE UNION

GOSPEL MISSION" IN FORT

WORTH, TEXAS.

WE HAD BEEN THERE SERVING

A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

AND EVERYTHING WAS GOING

WELL AFTER I KIND OF GOT

OVER MY INITIAL AFFRONT TO

ALL OF THE SMELLS.

IT WAS JUST A RUNDOWN OLD

PLACE.

SO A COUPLE OF WEEKS INTO

OUR SERVING THERE, THIS

MAN, A GIANT

AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAN WITH

NO SHOES AND NO SHIRT,

STORMS INTO THE DINING

HALL AND SAYS, I'M GOING

TO KILL WHOEVER DONE IT.

I'M GOING TO KILL WHOEVER

STOLE MY SHOES.

AND SHE SAID, THAT'S HIM.

AND I SAID, THAT'S WHO?

AND SHE SAID, THAT'S THE

MAN I HAD THE DREAM ABOUT.

AND I THINK I HEARD FROM

GOD YOU HAVE TO BE HIS

FRIEND.

AND I SAID, HONEY, I

WASN'T AT THAT MEETING YOU

HAD WITH GOD.

AND IF I'M GOING TO BE

FRIENDS WITH SOMEBODY WHO

WANTS TO KILL EVERYBODY, I

THINK I THINK I OUGHT TO

GOD MYSELF.

Terry: HOW DID YOU

BRIDGE THAT GAP AND BECOME

DENVER'S FRIEND?

IT TOOK FIVE PERSISTENT

MONTHS OF ALMOST PURSUING

HIM DAILY THROUGH THE

INNER CITY.

HE WAS NOT LOOKING FOR A

FRIEND.

PEOPLE ON THE STREETS

CALLED HIS SUICIDE BECAUSE

THEY SAID MESSING WITH HIM

WAS THE EQUIVALENT OF

COMMITTING SUICIDE.

HE IS DANGEROUS AND HE IS

CRAZY.

SO YOU NEED TO STAY AWAY

FROM HIM BECAUSE HE'LL

HURT YOU.

BUT AT DEBBIE'S

INSISTENCE -- SHE KNEW GOD

HAD A PLAN FOR THIS MAN'S

LIFE.

Terry: SO EVENTUALLY

YOU AND DENVER DID BECOME

FRIENDS.

YOU AND DENVER AND DEBBIE

BECAME FRIENDS.

YES, WE DID.

Terry: HOW DID GOD

CHANGE YOU THROUGH THAT?

GOD TOOK A VERY

ARROGANT, SELF-CENTERED

MAN, AND HE USED THIS

HOMELESS MAN, WHO TURNED

OUT TO BE NOT SO CRAZY.

HE WAS PROPHETIC HIMSELF.

AND HE USED HIM TO SAVE

OUR MARRIAGE, TO SAVE OUR

FAMILY.

THIS IS NOT A WHITE SAVIOR

MOVIE.

THIS IS A MAN -- AN

AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAN WHO

REALLY SAVED OUR FAMILY.

HE REPAIRED MY DAMAGED

RELATIONSHIP WITH MY

FATHER.

HE TOTALLY TRANSFORMED MY

LIFE.

ART BECAME SO MEANINGLESS

TO ME, AND HE AND THE

HOMELESS CAUSE BECAME WHAT

GOD PUT ON MY HEART TO

BEGIN WORKING WITH.

Terry: WELL, AT A

LATER POINT THE

UNTHINKABLE HAPPENS,

DEBBIE GETS SICK AND

EVENTUALLY DIES.

BUT SHE HAD SOME FINAL

WORDS --

SHE SAID, DON'T GIVE UP

ON DENVER.

GOD IS GOING TO BLESS YOUR

FRIENDSHIP IN A WAY YOU

COULD NEVER IMAGINE.

Terry: AND GOD DID

THAT.

YOU AND DENVER HAD, AFTER

DEBBIE'S DEATH, SUCH A

DEEPER RELATIONSHIP WITH

EACH OTHER.

FOR BOTH OF YOU, IT GAVE

WAY TO A BIGGER ISSUE IN

THE CITY, AND THE CITY WAS

CHANGED.

FIRST OF ALL, I DID

ABANDONED HIM RIGHT AFTER

HER DEATH.

I DID WHAT SHE ASKED ME

NOT TO DO.

I LEFT AND WENT AWAY TO

ITALY FOR ABOUT FIVE

MONTHS TO KIND OF GET MY

HEAD STRAIGHT.

I BEGAN WRITING THE BOOK

THERE, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN

I REALIZED THAT THE REAL

STORY WAS BACK IN THE HOBO

JUNGLE BY A DUMPSTER IN

THE INNER CITY.

I NEVER WOULD HAVE TOLD

THE REAL STORY UNLESS I

WENT BACK.

I WENT BACK TO FORT WORTH,

TEXAS, AND I ASKED HIM TO

MOVE IN WITH ME.

HE JOINED ME AND MY TWO

CHILDREN, WHO WERE LIVING

THERE AT THE TIME.

AND THEY MOVED OUT

SHORTLY, AS THEY WERE

GETTING MARRIED AND

THINGS.

HE BEGAN TO TRANSFORM MY

LIFE.

HE BECAME MY PROFESSOR AND

I WAS HIS STUDENT, YOU

KNOW.

ONE OF THE FIRST DAYS ON

THE STREETS HE ASKED ME --

HE SAID, ARE YOU ONE OF

THOSE CHRISTIANS?

AND I SAID, YES, I AM.

AND HE SAID, CAN YOU TELL

ME WHY ALL YOU CHRISTIANS

WORSHIP ON SUNDAY AND TURN

THEN TURN YOUR BACK ON A

HOMELESS MAN THE NEXT

WEEK.

Terry: WOW, THAT WILL

GIVE YOU SOME FOOD FOR

THOUGHT.

YES.

Terry: EVENTUALLY,

WHERE DID YOUR FRIENDSHIP

LEAVE AS FAR AS THE ISSUE

OF HOMELESSNESS WENT?

FOR YOUR HEART AND THE WAY

YOU SAW PEOPLE?

HE TOLD ME, THE

COURTHOUSE IS FULL OF

JUDGES, MR. RON.

GOD IS NOT LOOKING FOR

ANYMORE JUDGES.

BUT GOD IS LOOKING FOR AND

NEEDS SERVICE.

SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO WALK

THE STREETS WITH ME, YOU

BETTER NOT JUDGE AND YOU

JUST BETTER START SERVING.

SO I STARTED SERVING WITH

DENVER AND WE TRY TO MAKE

A DIFFERENCE.

WE MIX BLACK AND WHITE,

POVERTY AND WEALTH, AND WE

COME OUT ALL TOGETHER AND

COME OUT WITH A MESSAGE OF

HOPE, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN

BE HEALING OUR NATION.

Terry: WHAT WAS IT

LIKE FOR YOU TO SEE THIS

MOVIE ON SCREEN?

TRUTH, TERRY, I LOVE

THE ENDING, BUT THE

BEGINNING IS SO PAINFUL

FOR ME TO WATCH.

Terry: I CAN'T

IMAGINE.

BUT IN THE END, YOU HAVE

CREATED SOMETHING THAT

EVEN IN SHARING WHAT YOU

JUST SHARED ABOUT THINGS

THAT DENVER SAID, THINGS

TO MAKE PEOPLE THINK, MAKE

US SEE DIFFERENTLY --

YEAH.

HE GAVE ME NEW EYES.

HE GAVE ME EYES TO SEE THE

HOMELESS THROUGH THE

LENSES OF GOD.

I WANT PEOPLE TO LEAVE

WANTING TO MAKE A

DIFFERENCE IN THEIR

COMMUNITIES.

WE STARTED A NEW CAMPAIGN

FOR OUR MOVIE CALLED

"MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN

OUR CITIES."

WE WANT PEOPLE TO BEGIN

RANDOM ACTS OF KINDNESS

THAT WOULD TRANSLATE INTO

LOVE, SHOWING THE LOVE OF

CHRIST.

Terry: BUT IT TAKES

PAIN SOMETIMES TO GET US

TO THAT PLACE.

YES.

Terry: AND YOU HAVE

TO BE WILLING TO PAY THAT

PRICE TO SEE THE MIRACLE

COME TRUE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

Terry: OKAY, LET ME

GET IT TOGETHER.

I CAN JUST TELL YOU THERE

IS SO MUCH MORE TO DEBBIE

AND DENVER'S STORY AN IN

RON'S BOOK.

THE BOOK IS CALLED "THE

SAME KIND OF DIFFERENCE AS

ME."

GET THIS BOOK BECAUSE IT

IS WONDERFUL.

AND THEN YOU DON'T WANT TO

MISS THE MOVIE STARRING

GREG KINNEAR AMERICAN

RENEE ZELLWEGER.

IT IS STARTING ON

OCTOBER 20th.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS

THIS.

IT CAN CHANGE YOUR LIFE.

THANK YOU, RON.

THANK YOU, TERRY.

Terry: UP NEXT, THE

LATEST FROM OUR CBN

NEWSDESK IS GOING TO COME

TO YOU RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Efrem: AND WELCOME

BACK TO "THE 700 CLUB."

TWITTER SHUT DOWN

CONGRESSWOMAN MARSHA BLACK

BURN'S SENATE CAMPAIGN

ANNOUNCEMENT FOR SAYING

SHE STOPPED THE SALE OF

BABY BODY PARTS.

HE SAID THE REPUBLICAN

STATEMENT IN THE AD IS

INFLAMMATORY IS AND LIKELY

TO INVOKE A STRONG

NEGATIVE REACTION.

BLACKBURN ISN'T BACKING

DOWN.

SHE IS CALLING ON HER

SUPPORTERS TO REPOST HER

VIDEO AND TO JOIN HER IN,

QUOTE, "STANDING UP TO

SILICON VALLEYS."

MINISTERS AND CLERGY IN

THE U.S. COULD SOON TAKE A

HIT FINANCIALLY.

A FEDERAL JUDGE IN

WISCONSIN HAS RULED THAT A

PROVISION FOR A TAX-FREE

HOUSING ALLOWANCE VIOLATES

THE ESTABLISHMENT CLAUSE

OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

THE BECKETT FUND ARGUES

THAT IT ALLOWS FAITH

LEADERS TO LIVE CLOSE TO

THEIR CHURCHES OR IN

UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES.

THE WISCONSIN-BASED

ATHEIST GROUP SUED THE

I.R.S. TO RULE AGAINST THE

EXEMPTION.

THE BECKETT FUND DOES PLAN

TO APPEAL.

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THIS.

Terry: ONE MOTHER

LIVING IN SOUTH THAILAND

WAS OFTEN HELPLESS TO FEED

HER STARVING FAMILY.

MANY DAYS ALL THEY HAD TO

EAT WAS WEEDS MIXED WITH A

LITTLE BIT OF RICE.

HER MOM CALLS HER DAUGHTER

GADI LITTLE RABBIT BECAUSE

OF THE 3-YEAR-OLD'S

FONDNESS FOR EATING

VEGETABLES.

WHAT HER DAUGHTER DOESN'T

KNOW IS THAT THOSE

VEGETABLES ARE WEEDS

COLLECTED FROM A NEARBY

FIELD.

THEY EAT THEM WITH A

LITTLE RICE.

WHEN GADI GOES HUNGRY,

I FEEL SO HELPLESS.

MY HUSBAND CUTS GRASS AND

DOES ODD JOBS.

IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO FEED

OUR CHILDREN AND MY

ELDERLY MOTHER.

Terry: THEN GADI'S

MOTHER HEARD ABOUT A

CHILDREN'S CENTER

SUPPORTED BY CBN'S

"ORPHANS' PROMISE."

AT THE CENTER, THEY

GIVE MY DAUGHTER FOOD TO

EAT AND MILK TO DRINK

EVERY DAY.

Terry: ONE DAY A

STAFF MEMBER AT THE CENTER

NOTICED THAT GADI HAD AN

EAR INFECTION.

SO WE TOOK HER, ALONG WITH

HER MOM, TO THE DOCTOR.

THEN WE PROVIDE THE

ANTIBIOTICS THAT THE FACT

COULD NOT AFFORD.

FINALLY, THANKS TO THE

"ORPHANS' PROMISE" CENTER,

GADI'S MOM CAN NOW WORK

WITH HER HUSBAND DURING

THE DAY, WHICH HAS DOUBLED

THE FAMILY'S INCOME.

NOW THEY KNOW LONGER GO

HUNGRY.

THANK YOU, "ORPHANS'

PROMISE," FOR CARING ABOUT

MY DAUGHTER.

Terry: WE JUST WANT

TO SAY THANK YOU.

IF YOU ARE SOMEONE WHO HAS

A HEART FOR THE WORK OF

"ORPHANS' PROMISE," YOU'RE

SOMEONE WHO IS HELPING US

DO ALL OF THAT, HELPING US

TO BE THERE FOR FAMILIES

LIKE THIS.

I OFTEN THINK, WHEN I HEAR

ABOUT STORIES OF WHAT

PARENTS ARE GOING THROUGH,

WHERE THEIR KIDS ARE

VULNERABLE BECAUSE OF

POVERTY OR LACK OF WORK,

WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE --

WOULD I LIKE TO FEED MY

CHILDREN WEEDS?

WOULD I LIKE TO MIX THAT

WITH A LITTLE WHITE RICE,

WHICH HAS NO NUTRITIONAL

VALUE?

WOULD I LIKE NOT TO SEE A

HOPE OR A FUTURE FOR THEM

BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT FOR

MYSELF AS A PARENT,

EITHER?

YOU AND I HAVE SUCH AN

OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A

DIFFERENCE.

AND SO LET'S DO THAT,

WHETHER IT IS IN THE LIFE

OF CHILDREN -- THAT'S WHAT

"ORPHAN'S PROMISE" IS

ABOUT, ORPHANED AND

VULNERABLE CHILDREN AROUND

THE WORLD.

BUT CBN IS REACHING OUT TO

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ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT

TO DO IS SEND YOU PAT'S

LATEST, AND ITS CALLED

"ASK ANYTHING."

MANY OF THE QUESTIONS WE

GET IN OUR E-MAIL SECTION

ARE FROM VIEWERS WHO WANT

TO KNOW, WHAT DOES THE

WORD OF GOD SAY?

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ANSWERS TO SOME OF LIFE'S

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OF GOD.

JOIN NOW, BLESS OTHERS,

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AND THIS IS A DAY WHERE WE

WANT YOUR FAITH TO BE

MOVED, TO BELIEVE GOD FOR

MIRACLES IN YOUR OWN LIFE.

THIS IS YOLI, WHO LIVES IN

FLORIDA.

SHE SAW HER RHEUMATOLOGIST

WHO ORDERED SOME BLOOD

TESTS.

THE TESTS CAME BACK

ABNORMAL, SO THE

RHEUMATOLOGIST REFERRED

HER TO AN ONCOLOGIST.

SHE CALLED OUR PRAYER

CENTER FOR HEALING, AND

OUR PRAYERLY CENTER PRAYED

FOR HER.

WHEN SHE SAW THE

ONCOLOGIST LATER THAT DAY

AND HE ORDERED MORE BLOOD

TESTS.

WHEN THE RESULTS CAME IN,

THE DOCTOR CALLED HER AND

SAID THE BLOOD TESTS WERE

ALL NORMAL.

SHE IS PRAISING GOD FOR

HER HEALING.

IF YOU NEED TO PRAY WITH

SOMEONE ABOUT ANY NEED IN

YOUR LIFE TODAY, OUR

PRAYER COUNSELLORS ARE

STANDING BY FOR EXACTLY

THAT PURPOSE.

THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO LOVE

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YOU CALL NOW.

WE WANT TO LEAVE YOU TODAY

WITH A POWER MINUTE FROM

LUKE 5: 17: "AND THE POWER

OF THE LORD WAS PRESENT TO

HEAL THEM."

GOD WORD SAYS HE HEALED

THEM ALL.

SO YOU CALL NOW.

THANKS FOR BEING WITH US.

WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN

TOMORROW.

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